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Any Witches here? Part 20

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speakout · 16/02/2024 12:56

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.
A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration..
This is the 18th thread- anyone looking for a deep dive into juicy magical topics may like to browse previous threads.....
It is a long list!!
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Hedjwitch · 20/12/2024 14:34

Thanks for the tip on the Lucy Jones book. Am.halfway through and it's really resonating.
Am.going to friends for a Solstice fire. They live beside a river,practically IN it,and have woodland with badgers and bats and all sorts of things. They are churchgoers themselves,but accept my beliefs and are holding this event for me.
I am taking herbs and frankincense to burn,and we will read some poems and stories. I'm very excited. Do you think this is ok as a Solstice gift? I have a book and a lovely night light holder for them too.

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quirkychick · 20/12/2024 16:00

I've just seen this https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00264tw

Charlie Cooper's Myth series on the Winter Solstice.

@Hedjwitch that looks and sounds lovely, though I'm no expert! I'm glad your enjoying the Lucy Jones book. I'm nearly finished and I love that it looks at science and psychology and that after writing it she came to druidry.

BBC Three - Charlie Cooper’s Myth Country, Winter Solstice

Keen to escape the trappings of a modern Christmas, Charlie heads to Devon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00264tw

speakout · 21/12/2024 07:21

Thanks for that link quirkychick, I will give that a llisten.

It's blowing a hoolie outside, I can hear rain and wind battering the windows. I am so blessed to have a warm home and a roof over my head.
DD came over to stay the night on Thursday, but ended up staying last night too, she was so warm and relaxed she didn't want to leave. She will be over on Christmas eve for a few nights too.
She has started teaching dance to children with additional needs, I am so proud. She teaches 12 dance classes a week anyway, but intererested in helping children who need some extra help. There is little provision around and has had a number of requests from parents - today she is teaching a boy with visual impairment. He already does a sport to a high level in his catagory, but his coach feels his flexibility would benefit from some acro dance lessons. A lot of the teaching is done through touch and speech anyway, and she teaches this child one to one, so they are developing ways between them.

Hedjwitch your friends sound lovely. Can I ask which denomination of church they belong to? It's great to hear that there are people around who will accept such a different spiritual path- my personal experience has been pretty negative, so much so that I have to zip my lip! No surprise that pagan practices had to be hidden- and became "occult" which literally means hidden.

I hope to attend a yoga or Body Balance class this morning, I need a bit of movement after a 2 day sofa stint!

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Hedjwitch · 21/12/2024 10:57

Hi @speakout
I think they are Methodists.

quirkychick · 21/12/2024 13:04

Happy Winter Solstice, everyone.

I went to Vinyasa Yoga this morning, it was a small class so became more of a Yin/vinyasa hybrid. I'm off to a Feelgood hub this afternoon, which has a couple of workshops.

SeaEssence · 21/12/2024 19:18

Just nipping in to wish you happy solstice and Yule season xx

tackychristmas · 21/12/2024 20:55

Happy Winter Solstice everyone! I will be back later to properly catch up with you all. I hope you’ve all had a lovely day celebrating.

VioletCharlotte · 21/12/2024 21:33

Happy Winter Solstice everyone! Sending blessings you you all ❄️🌅

VioletCharlotte · 21/12/2024 21:35

Queenrollo I'm sorry to hear you've been so unwell. Sending lots of love and healing your way 💕

Craftycorvid · 21/12/2024 22:16

Winter solstice blessings, all! Watched the Newgrange livestream this morning. Uplifting!

Spent time with Pagan friends this evening. 🙂

MonstersAndAngels · 21/12/2024 23:24

Happy Winter Solstice to you all 🌞 Had a fire outside tonight, though not for very long as it was a bit windy!

hilariousnamehere · 22/12/2024 01:55

Solstice love coming your way, sisters!

It has not been a good winter, or second half of the year, and I am even more glad than usual to welcome the light back and to see the wheel turning so we will shortly see the back of this year.

Sorry I've been so quiet, I've been lurking a bit between the chaos but lacking the energy to reply properly.

But I am dancing again which is usually a good sign for upwards mental health and happiness, and felt like a lovely thing to do for solstice too.

Photo attached of one of my fluffy familiars claiming my new portable dance floor as her own. Is she sleeping or breakdancing? We'll never know...

The other photo is of a magical window in Manningtree which made me think of you all and this thread when I saw it. It's Christmassy yet felt quite wild and witchy to me too!

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BlankTimes · 22/12/2024 06:39

I hope all of you had a wonderful and uplifting Winter Solstice. I celebrate both sunrise and sunset. I too watched the OPW livestream from Newgrange, the lady commentator had some very insightful observations. I ended up wishing the male commentator could hear me as he trotted out inaccuracies like calling it a burial mound. Archaeologists use that as a blanket term, but think about it.

Some ancient mounds were used for the internment of bodies and have whole skeletons placed there, like Tomb of the Eagles in Orkney. Others have whole body cremated remains often in pots buried within them. Some later Bronze and Iron Age mounds have spectacular burials like a man on a chariot with both of his horses, some have a couple, embracing, facing each other but the point is these are all burial mounds, so named because there are actual bodies in there.

Newgrange never contained bodies. What was found there was bits of cremated bone from several individuals, some of these were found on the shallow basins in the recesses. These cremated bones were not buried there permanently and it has been suggested they were taken into the mound and placed in the basins and some ritual was performed, then the bones were removed and more recent ones replaced them.

The other most repeated but wrong information (in books and online) is that the triple spiral on the orthostat near the end recess is touched by the light beam. Totally wrong because that carving does not face the passageway and could never be touched by the light beam.
What happened when it was built was that the light beam struck the back wall of the recess and this illuminated the small area with reflected light, enabling the triple spiral carving to be seen for the few minutes the light beam remained there at Solstice.

I thought the diagrams were pretty good showing how it was constructed and also the simulations of the position of the light beam now and when Newgrange was built.

I was blessed with two surprise gifts today, a 2025 Moon Diary from dd and a Simmer Pot from a fabulous friend. I couldn't wait to try it, it smells divine, rosebud bay, apple, lavender, cloves and so much more fill the house with such a festive aroma.

Sunset was spent in spirit at Maeshowe, a quiet reflective end of the day. I hope they will one day bring a Lidar survey inside the mound, because it's definitely built on an older site.

speakout · 22/12/2024 07:03

I am glad to hear of the good vibrations stirring as a result of the solstice.
My calm mood which settled this week is persisting, and is very welcome, hoping to groove some deep pathways.
The calmness is also touching my loved ones, I can feel the softness suffusing though my family.
I need to do a little more christmas shopping, I will head to a shopping centre soon. My nearest M& S are open from 6am till 9pm today, so hopefully get there before it gets too busy, other shops open regular hours and open at 9am.

Increasingly I find busy shops overwhelming, after a short time my mind becomes a bit scattered and I forget what I came in for.
A list is essential- even if I just need to buy a few things, I know I will become distracted.
Is anyone else like this?
I will sit down for a few moments before I leave home, make a list and a plan. Usually three shops is my maximum and I have reached my limit.

I am off for a rose shower, put on my clean, soft, warm clothes that I put on the radiator, nourish my skin and spent a moment or two with my Oracle deck.

Have a magical day sisters.

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Craftycorvid · 22/12/2024 09:23

Morning all! @speakout I absolutely do find big overcrowded places too much - if it’s a shop I might just get half my list and get away as quickly as possible. I’ve defaulted to using the smaller shops as much as possible - local independents where they still exist, plus the sedate vibes of our local M&S food hall.

We held a small gathering for the solstice yesterday - just a few Pagan friends - I put on the kind of ‘high tea’ my grandmother used to make (usually on Boxing Day evening); I used her old tea set and my mother’s old cutlery set; a way to connect to happier memories from my childhood and homes that now exist only as memories. We lit the fire in the hearth and told ghost stories. These things are fast becoming our new rituals of the season and they connect my past and my present in a meaningful way.

I think today’s plans are quietness, maybe a short walk and making something wholesome for dinner, like vegetable soup, after all that cake!

speakout · 22/12/2024 11:16

Craftycorvid your gathering sounds wonderful. connecting to the past and invoking happy memories.
I love a ghost story at christmas. I feel that would have been a strong theme in the celebrations of our distant ancestors. A reminder that midwinter would have been a dangerous time of year- the elderly and weak succumbing to cold and lack of food.
Dickens knew this well, and I never tire of watching versions of A Christmas Carol. Many Scandic countries have folk tales of the Christmas witch, Krampus and other scary themes.
Our modern plastic christmas lacks that edge largely, but does make an appearance as the Grinch.
The horrors of our christmas lie in our disrespect for the earth, the production of endless tat and packaging which will be around for many thousands of years.

It is so good to be home after my shopping trip. I did a few swoops on some shops- and back home by 10am.

I am planning a quiet day of pottering, gift wrapping and some cleaning- but with many breaks, lots of tea and I may listen to some ghost stories!

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ISaySteadyOn · 22/12/2024 16:26

I have been quiet as I have been managing DS through his last week of school. He's trying so hard but I am worried that he is making himself ill with it.

I am glad the solstice is past. DH cooked lovely food and the kids rested a lot. I feel more hope when I remember that from now, light will increase.

For ghost stories which I also love, I recommend the Uncanny podcast. It's a very friendly programme and one of my favourites. Blessings to you all.

quirkychick · 22/12/2024 16:53

@ISaySteadyOn that sounds hard for your ds. I like Uncanny too.

The coming of autumn and winter really lends itself to ghost stories, I agree. I'm sure people have told stories of ancestors and spirits for thousands of years. I'm currently watching the BBC Ghost Stories. I have recently read Neil Olivers Hauntings: A Book of Ghosts and Where to Find Them and Ghostland by Edward Parnell, which is about authors and their ghost stories. Both books relate to the authors' own grief and loss as well.

Today was bright but cold and the wind was bitter. Dp and I went for a walk through the city and ended up in a very nice fish and chip place that has a cool restaurant in the crypt in the basement. I've had a quiet afternoon, will do some studying and then we will have some of the food leftover from yesterday.

VioletCharlotte · 23/12/2024 16:58

I love a ghost story, I've not watched or read any for a while. Life and work seem to have taken over this year. I'm hoping for a little downtime over the Christmas period. I've been quite ruthless about politely turning down invitations to try and protect my time off work, prioritising a few much loved friends and family members over larger social gatherings that make me anxious and leave me feeling drained.

@Craftycorvid your afternoon with friends sounds lovely, I did similar with my two closest friends yesterday.
@ISaySteadyOn yes, its a relied somehow to have passed the solstice and know that the light will now slowly and surely start to return. I'm craving some sunshine, the last few months have been so dark! Maybe we'll be lucky enough to have some bright, crisp winters' days in the weeks ahead, rather than the eternal cloud and rain!
@Speakout I have to write a list when I go shopping, otherwise I go spectacularly off piste and come everything but what I went out for! I find supermarkets overwhelming too so I do most of my shopping online and just pop in for fresh bits. I hope you had an enjoyable day pottering.

I finish work tomorrow at 2pm which can't come soon enough. Then I'll head down to pick up young adult DS1 who is coming for Christmas. I don't get to see him that often as he lives an hour away so I'm very much looking forward to having some time with him. All the presents are wrapped so I'm planning a quiet evening indoors. I may try and find some ghost stories to watch!

Craftycorvid · 23/12/2024 17:24

Afternoon all! The jobs are mostly done and I’m beginning to relax. Maybe it’s suggestion, or maybe not, but I find having passed the solstice point gives me an instant energy boost. Warm and peaceful evenings to you all.

speakout · 23/12/2024 17:55

quirkychick thanks for the ghost story suggestions, I love a creepy tale.
It is curious why something frightening feels pleasurable to us!
Your fish tea sounds lovely.

I am glad you are prioritising yourself during this busy time, christmas organising seems to take on a life of its own, and it takes wisdom and intuition to make the best decisions for ourselves. I have been running through choices I have made in the last week. If something feels like a chore then is it really needed? I am normally flapping in the week before christmas but this year has been calm and restful and I feel a huge benefit.

It seems the solstice has brought calm energy to many of us.

It will be an early night for me tonight, listen to a ghost story, journal or write some poetry, have some cocoa and enjoy a soft part of the day.

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quirkychick · 24/12/2024 07:51

Due to difficult family circumstances, dp and I are having a quiet Christmas Day and just going over to visit dd2 in the home with her presents. Tbh, although it's sad not to see everyone, I will not miss the mad rushing around with stockings, nibbles, drinks, presents, roast dinner, getting out for a walk, managing dd2's asd/ocd traits. It's usually such a rush. This time I have ordered ready stuffed chicken breasts from the organic butcher, everything is frozen and ready to just go in the oven.

On kind of ghost stories, I found this documentary on Prime (it's long and I haven't yet watched all of it) https://woodlandsdarkanddaysbewitched.com/

It shows clips of lots of the stories and programmes mentioned in both the Neil Oliver and Edward Parnell books I mentioned. There's also a section on modern witchcraft.
I have actually found folklore and ghost stories to be very therapeutic while we've been going through a tumultuous year. Maybe it's anchoring to the past and shared experiences? A "safe" way to explore difficult emotions through stories.

Home - Woodlands Dark and Days Bewitched

https://woodlandsdarkanddaysbewitched.com

MonstersAndAngels · 24/12/2024 13:45

Thanks for that link @quirkychick it looks interesting. Your peaceful Christmas sounds good to me!
I'm making myself slow down today rather than rush around thinking I have to do lots of cleaning, baking, preparing etc. I am doing a bit of that (!) but reminding myself to stop and rest and enjoy Christmas Eve too - I think I like this day more than Christmas Day itself.
I hope everyone has a lovely Christmas, peaceful if you want it that way - or more lively if that's your thing. I think mine will be a bit of both.

Edited to add - thanks for the Charlie Cooper suggestion too, I think that series looks really interesting and he's very funny.

speakout · 25/12/2024 07:11

Happy Christmas sisters.
I hope your day is calm and full of light.

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Hedjwitch · 25/12/2024 08:41

Wishing you all a happy and enjoyable day. May you find peace.

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