Any Witches Here?- Part 17.

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Part 7 //www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/3520269-Any-Witches-Here-Part-7?pg=1
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Glad to hear of the positive note for you hills.
Life can be very challenging, and although we can make choices to improve areas we are often powerless to change others.
That can be a lot of hard work, deep emotional healing, reframing, not easy or quick, but we do have power to change our internal landscape.
It's a cool 14 degrees here, has been raining for a few days.
But I have the house pretty much to myself today, which I really love.
Alone time is so precious to me, it feeds my soul and calms my spirit.

So glad you found some encouragement @HillsBesideTheSea . This path, indeed life itself can be tough but somehow we find a way to keep going.

I've been playing with beads today. I've cracked the chakra ones by using some gorgeous sparkly Czech glass and the pagan rosary will go fast too. It's the last one I have supplies for until I can restock.

I could do with some opinions on the heart earrings though. I'm definitely not feeling it but I'm not sure if it's because they are so not my own taste or whether they are indeed a miss. I haven't even bothered to make the second one. So Yay or Nay?

Elphame love your jewellery. I especially like the pagan rosary beads, what a good idea.
I was looking for prayer beads the other day- I already have a set of Mala beads, but all the rosaries had a christian cross on them, I think a pagan rosary is a great idea.
I love the colours on the heart earrings, not to my taste either, but I know some people would love them. That 60s/groovy/summer of love vibe is very on trend at the moment, I am sure they would appeal to lots of people.

@Elphame I love the earrings. I do have an earring addiction though - I find independent female makers and buy from them.

I’ve been trying to get back into the habit of daily cards during the holidays. Today’s have told me what I’ve long suspected: I need to heal. I don’t even know where to start. I can’t even talk about what happened (three consecutive miscarriages in 2020/21) let alone deal with how to heal. It’s hard enough writing it here. I don’t even know if they had little souls as I only had an early scan with one and saw a heartbeat, the others may have both been something like ‘blighted ovum’ (the first certainly was). I don’t even know what to grieve? A child or an experience as there was no child? Sorry, I don’t mean to bring the group down. I’m just facing up to the fact I’ve been burying this all and clearly I should be dealing with it. Somehow.

Bloody cards making me face stuff!

I'm so sorry about your losses. No matter how early it was, it's still a loss. Your body would haven been flooded with hormones and you had started that mothering journey.

I think you need to allow yourself to grieve. Grief comes in many different forms and you need to explore your own way through the process. Can you talk to your partner about it?

I had a miscarriage before I had my first daughter. It was a horrible experience, I was 14 weeks but the baby had stopped developing between 8/9 weeks. Miscarriage is very common but not very understood or spoken about.

I found it helped to buy a little bush that i nurture to remember my lost little one. It's a cliche but time has been a healer for me, I still feel upset, but not as raw.

Thinking about you today 💕💐

On behalf of all independent female jewellery makers - thank you💖

I have now made earring number 2!

@Trenzalor I am so sorry for your losses. Yes the cards have a way of forcing us to address things we have been hiding from. I believe that they do have souls from very early. I lost one of a twin pregnancy at about 10 weeks and she has visited me since a few times although I never tried to make deliberate contact. She was never named but in retrospect I wish we had and I have my own name for her that I keep in my heart.

Very frustrating morning her though. I want to make some "bone" raven skulls. Can I find the clay I want? No I can't.

OK I'll make some rowan charms instead. Can I find the leaf charms to finish them off? No of course not.

Just read a very loud and very ranty riot act in my work room and there'll be trouble if things are not back by the time I've finished my coffee and stopped playing on Mumsnet.

Thank you @TurquoiseDreamCatcher I don’t want to talk to him as I don’t want to bring up his grief. He found each time very hard.

All three were between 10-12 weeks but twice I had to have medical intervention which strung it out longer.

My idea of memorialising them was to get a tattoo! I don’t have any but I was thinking three bees or three stars but I haven’t quite decided yet.

I’m sorry for your losses @TurquoiseDreamCatcher and @Elphame

@Elphame it’s really reassuring to hear she visits you - thank you x

I have names for all three that mostly came from dreams. Two are not names I would have chosen.

One of my friends has a tattoo to remember her lost baby, it brings her a lot of comfort.

Have you thought about contacting one of the charities that deals with miscarriage? Such as Tommys. I feel that you need to feel that your grief is valid so you can come to terms with it. No-one can tell you how to feel but you can get support to process it all.

I am sorry to hear of your losses Elphame, TurquoiseDreamCatcher and Trenzalor.
Loss is painful at all stages, and feelings are absolutely valid.

I agree with TurquoiseDreamCatcher , perhaps a third party would be a good step, rather than digging deep with your pain with your OH Trenzalor.
We all process grief in different ways, and can be hard to support another's grief when we are grieving ourselves.
Someone outside of the family, a counsellor or therapist could help you deal with the pain, and having private neutral space gives much more freedom to speak without having to hold back for fear of impacting your OH. You may also want to talk of how your OHs reaction to the loss impacts you- again not something you may want to share with your OH until you have explored your feelings.
I am a big fan of therapy, I have had several chunks of it in my life, and just coming to the end of a weekly, 4 month Gestalt therapy period, and the results have been truly life changing.
I have found most therapists also very open to all types of spirituality too, supporting dream work, shadow work, exploring ritual etc,

Thank you all. I’ve spent the day thinking. My school got me counselling last year but I didn’t find it beneficial. I don’t know if that’s because I had a counsellor who didn’t say anything or because talking therapy doesn’t exactly work for autistic people.

We will see what tomorrow’s cards bring and I shall try and do something nice with my son and daughter as well.

Trenzalor I am sorry your last counseliing didn't work for you.
I donlt know about ASD, my OH has ASD and has had successful counselling in the past.
I do think there has to be a "connection" between client and counsellor, I started counselling with another therapist a year ago and only lasted two sessions- it didn't feel "right", but the person I have at the moment feels a good fit.
And she talks quite a bit, which I find helpful too in terms of exploring my feelings instead of just talking to a soundin board.
I am glad you have a good day planned with your children.
I have slept a little later than normal, my alarm is switched off and I can't remember doing it.
I went to an intense Astanga yoga class yesterday, it was full on,hardly a break for an hour, I was breathless and sweaty. Only 4 in the class and instructor keeping a close eye walking round making corrections. I am guessing it was an intermediate/advanced class.
I did manage to keep up, but my muscles are aching this morning, especially my pectorals from all the chaturangas. But it is a good type of pain, that tells you muscles have been challenged.
A cloudy rainy day, overcast and dull, just right for a quiet slow pace of work, with an easy flow.
A morning trine between Jupiter and Venus mellows the mood, making way for calm easy energy making self care and connection flow with ease.
Have a magical day sisters.

Just had a moment to catch up on everyone's posts... very sorry to hear of all the losses everyone has suffered. I haven't personally been affected by a pregnancy loss, so I can't even imagine the pain it must cause.
We had a v difficult journey conceiving our daughter... although it was awful, I feel there was a reason behind it and she came to us when the time was right and the stars had aligned, so to speak.

I think they absolutely have souls from v early and a tattoo would be a lovely permanent memorial. I have quite a few tattoos, for different reasons... I find they can be almost cathartic.

Grief is v complex... it's important to be kind and patient with yourself.

I've had a busy few days with different things; today I have a couple of errands to run this morning, then I'll spend some time baking this afternoon. I also did a huge clear out of my wardrobe so have a rather embarrassing amount of clothes/bags etc to donate.

Hope everyone has a positive day 🤍✨

Sending love to those affected by pregnancy loss. I had many losses, all of them in the early stages of pregnancy. (there is a complicated reason which I won't go into here) A friend who had also had a miscarriage had a special mug that she used for drinking tea/hot chocolate in a kind of meditation and remembrance of her lost child. I bought myself one and was devastated when it broke, but a potter friend made me a new one. Eventually I felt it was time to move on from the ritual so I grew a plant in the mug instead! I now sit with it when I need to remember or reflect on that time of my life and all those babies that were not meant to be mine.

So grateful for the rain that fell here the last two days. I'm dealing with some anxiety at the moment, all based around appointments I have coming up. It's getting a little out of control and I wonder if my HRT needs tweaking - but one of the appointments is about exactly that!

I should look into HRT maybe.

I try to avoid my doctor, had some very bad experiences.

I can't believe I am still posting about this...the "stuck" thing remains. I just want to shout at whoever is out there to bloody move things along, but I guess the next thing could be dreadful. I could see the spiritual healer again but that would probably just be a waste of money.

I hope you don't mind me popping in...

I have posted on these threads previously but continously change my username. I follow this thread and lurk I guess...it is my favourite thread and it is wonderful to pop in from time to time.

Just wanted to say I'm sorry for those who have experienced baby loss. I lost a little boy at 19 weeks many years ago and I know how difficult this can be (I had to go through the birthing process). I feel like my little one is by my side now rather than being totally consumed by grief as I once was. My way of mourning was to produce a creative piece of work which took some time to complete. I do have dc now but I have also experienced secondary infertility and this went on for many years.

I've moved into a different phase now...I'm hugely perimenopausal (and most likely on the verge of the menopause). Unable to take HRT so looking at other ways to help myself. I've managed to shift 1.5 stones and now teetering on the edge of what is considered a healthy BMI (it is really difficult to keep weight off now I find thanks to hormones swilling around). My next plan is to do some pilates and a few weights (taking it easy at first).

I also agree it hugely depends on the counsellor/therapist for the type of experience you receive. I have had some good ones and some not so good ones over the years (including grief therapists). I am about to head back to therapy soon though I have made some good progress, I think of it as part of my self-care.

ReturntoNarnia so glad you have posted, and welcome back.
Losing a baby like this must have been very hard. I am glad you have mentioned the loss of your son, I hope that in sharing this and telling us how he sits by your side is comforting.
I feel that society is so quick to hide the loss of a baby, some find it very uncomfortable to consider or mention, and that is sad, because that baby needs to be heard, valued, even though their time was short, they were and are beautiful souls.

Thoughts are with everyone who has experienced baby lose. I had a miscarriage many years ago and remember only two well how devastating it is and how long it takes to heal. I was only 9 weeks pregnant, but in my mind it was a baby, a real person. I'd thought about names, how I was going to juggle three children, whether I would need a double buggy, so when I miscarried I grieved for the child who's life I'd been creating in my head and had already knew I loved. This was 20 years ago and there was very little support available back then, I'm not sure of the situations any better now.

I think the right kind of therapy can help. Trenzalor I agree with what you that not all therapy will be right for your neurodivergent brain. There are therapists out there that specialise in ADHD and Autism so it may be worth a look. It may be that you just need time and lots of self care, love and understanding. Please don't apologise or feel you're bringing the group round, I feel that being able to talk to supportive women who have understand what you're going through is exactly what you need. Sending you a huge hug

After a couple of days of respite from the heat and some much needed rain, it's hot and humid again here. I'm feeling incredibly tetchy, my periods's due and I have very little patience today and have had to bite my tongue a few times. Someone said to me once that our intuition is at its sharpest at this point in our cycles, the curtain is pulled back and we see things for what they really are. I feel like I'm wading through syrup, dealing with endless issues at work and at home. I've had no motivation for exercise all week, but I'm forcing myself to go to Pilates tonight as I know I'll feel better afterwards. I think I'm probably perimenopausal too but I don't feel like I need HRT just yet.

Good evening sisters

I popped in to the kitchen for 🍵. I felt the autumnal energy this morning on the walk to work. The first leaves and acorns underfoot brought down by the rain. The slight chill to the air. It will soon be the autumn equinox.

I plan to get out the cauldron jam pan soon and start to store things up for the winter. What a wonderful rich time of year this is.

💐 to all who have suffered a loss. I had only just started to realise that I was going to be a mother when I suffered mine.

Blessings to all.

VioletCharlotte and GeeIneverthoughtofthat I am sorry for your losses too.
I also think it is important to talk about neonatal, or indeed all losses.
Each one is important and deserves recognition, the spiral of grief means that talking about the loss will heal the pain a little.
I am letting myself off the hook from a bodybalance class this morning, it is a 15 minute drive away, but will put a squeeze on my time today.
I have tons of orders to make and pack, and I have done a lot of yoga classes this week, so I think it will be a few short sun salutations at home to start my day.
Feeling quite cool here 14 degrees, I am resisting the heating, but heavy rain means it feels a bit damp, so I may give myself a comfort boost. A hot shower and cosy clothes will help too.
I can see the softest tinge of gold in the trees, that tipping point when summer has reached its zenith and the only way is down to autumn.
And like many on this thread autumn is my favourite season, a chance to come out, be wild and witchy, park my besom in the front porch.
I see my women's full moon circle is set to continue, but in the colder months will be held in a large heated yurt- so that is exciting.
Have a magical weekend sisters.

Morning all!
I've had a productive morning so far, got dinner cooking away (husband is on nightshift) and a pot of soup on the go... I visited a local greengrocers during the week whilst running some other errands and the produce is fantastic! A proper old style grocers, and everything looked. V much looking forward to it.
I think the colder, damper weather always makes me want to cosy up with a bowl of nourishment!

That's exciting about your womens circle @speakout in this country it's good to have an indoor option! And means you can continue to gather which is the most important thing.

I had a v last minute, but v important interview yesterday morning so thank you to all for your good intentions from the other week... def did their job! Just need to hope I've done enough (and sold myself enough!) yesterday... time will tell.

Hope everyone had a magical weekend... my kitchen magic this morning has been a good start but not sure how much more I'll manage to squeeze in! ✨

Just caught up after being away for 10 days. Although I've only posted a couple of times on here I found I missed my regular reading of posts. I thought of you all while watching the full moon in Greece.
So sorry to hear of the losses some of you have suffered. Sending love and 💐💐.
It's raining here this morning and while I'm frustrated not to be able to get my holiday washing out on the line, I'm enjoying watching the rain through my window and hoping it will nourish my allotment plants (haven't visited for 10 days with being away so very nervous about what I'll find when I visit).
Off to get dressed soon to go and collect my lovely cat from the cattery. She's a bit special and I've missed her.

My thoughts are turning towards autumn too. When I've been out walking, I've noticed just a hint of gold on the leaves. The elderberries are ripe and 'my' big oak tree that stands tall , protecting my home, is full of acorns. I picked another bowl of blackberries this morning, my hands seem to be permanently stained purple and covered in scratches from brambles! I'll use some to make a crumble later and freeze the rest.

After rather an intense week at work, I'm focusing on self care this weekend. I went to a new yoga class this morning which was wonderful, half flow, half restorative which was just what I needed. The class was lovely too, beautiful energy. Continuing with the self care, I'm going to Pilates later at my gym and might go for a sauna afterwards. I've not been sleeping too well all week, as I've been busy and have had trouble switching off, so I'm hoping tonight will be better!

But before that, I need to clean the house, I quite enjoy cleaning and today's a good day for it as it's sunny but breezy, so I'll throw open the windows and let the fresh air flow in.

Blessings to you all for a beautiful Saturday 🙏

@VioletCharlotte I always fancy yoga but I'm so unfit and inflexible I think I'd be rubbish at it.

@Elphame@Elphame where do you sell your jewellery? Do you have a link please? X