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Any Witches here? Part 13

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speakout · 26/12/2020 08:56

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.

A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration.

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speakout · 25/03/2021 09:36

hilariousnamehere I am sure you have great wisdom. X

*HillsBesideTheSea
In order to welcome the new sometimes we have to let go of the old. Sometimes that letting go is hard.

It's like knowing you need to find a new job because you are not getting the hours you need, but not wanting to leave because you like the current job and your co workers.
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Ver y wise too!
Absolutely- and could be a good illustration showing the energy of the Tower card- It feels scary to have things tumbling down and letting go of the structures and patterns that we know.
But often it is the way to clear for a brighter future.
Break a few eggs to make an omlette.
Similarly with the Devil card- about accepting small rewards instead of digging deep to get to the heart of the problem- being fobbed off with earthly pleasures if you like.
You may want to lose weight and feeling down about the situation- so you have some cake to make yourself feel better. That could be an example of the Tarot Devil card ( although I am personally not too fond of the christian bias towards the devil in many decks- another story!).
So pulling the Devil may be an indicator that you should give some heed to little stop gap measures you are using while you have an elephant in the room. We all have that devil energy- and I feel it is vital for self care, but is we use it too much we may hinder our growth.

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Aerwyna · 25/03/2021 11:14

Interesting discussion on the tarot. I’m nodding in agreement with the perspectives shared here.

I welcome the tower energy in my life right now. Out with the old, making space for the new, just as you describe speakout. Revelling in the rubble! I particularly like the everyday witch tower, the glint in the witch’s eye, far from being ‘at the mercy’ of this change, she has a plan for what to build in it’s place I think!

speakout · 25/03/2021 11:22

Revelling in the rubble!

I love that- and the finds we can make- stones break open to reveal jewels, crystals, stones, picking through the debris, saving all the best bits for the next plan.

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VioletCharlotte · 25/03/2021 21:40

I love all this talk of Tower energy. People often are gradual when the tower appears, but I agree it's a positive card. When it appears in a reading, the Phoenix rising from the frames always comes to mind. It often comes up when someone had been through a traumatic relationship breakdown or a redundancy. It symbolises an opportunity to start again.

DS1 did an amazing reading for me last week. He's played around with his friends deck a few times but has never studied tarot. He picked up my deck and just used his intuition to interpret what he saw in the cards. I was absolutely blown away! It reinforces my feeling that we shouldn't get too hung up on what the book says. Look at what jumps out at you and what you feel.

One of the hardest things about lockdown is not being able to do readings in real life for people!

VioletCharlotte · 25/03/2021 21:41

*people are often anxious I meant to say!

emilysquest · 25/03/2021 22:48

What interesting perspectives, re the Tower, I am not averse to making big decisions which tear things done and rebuild, and I like that interpretation. I have made a few huge leaps into the dark in my life and most have in fact been positive and validated my intuition.

In what I have read so far I think I will find the 3 and 10 of swords more scary...but I am continuing to read for a while.

I had an extremely tough work day today (and first full work day since breaking my arm) so spent some time this evening just lying quietly on a yoga mat next to a lovely new oil burner with lavender oil. It definitely helped. DH wondered what I was up to but was pleased to find me less grumpy when I emerged from my study!

speakout · 26/03/2021 06:25

VioletCharlotte sounds like your DS has quite a gift! I wonder where that came from......?

emilysquest I am glad you have the Everyday witch Tarot- the cards and booklet cast the cards in such a positive light, Deborah Blake always manages to find a message of hope or learning in every card. Much like life situations!
The ten of cards does look gruesome at first sight, but ten is the number of completion, things are not going to get any worse- this is the finale, the close of an episode, the next step starts afresh.
So drawing this card while you are going though a difficult time should give hope, this is the end of the challenges, a new circle can begin.
I think I mentioned Kelly Anne Maddox and her view on the three of swords - which really made an impact on me. Kelly lives with depression, so is no stranger to pain. Three of swords is her favourite card, because it reminds her that she has more control than she thinks.

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moregarlic · 26/03/2021 08:47

Morning wonderful women! I’ve been enjoying catching up on the tarot chat, though it’s not an area I know deeply I enjoy intuitively using my goddess deck (the artwork is gorgeous which helps). I find I’m a bit hit and miss, it’s probably a lack of experience/knowledge.

@VioletCharlotte thank you for the detailed explanation, I’ll do it this morning. Love ‘rich’, so unexpected.

Yesterday I spent time on the beach laughing with a friend and it reminded me what a powerful place the coast is for me. I think I’m going to go for my first dip of the year soon.

I’m in a strange hazy period of life where I feel quite broken by the last year (first baby just before lockdown, some birth trauma, infection on the cusp of sepsis, chronic pain, bereavement...and of course all the lockdowns and restrictions) and I now lack a clear direction. I keep trying to focus on one day at a time.

I hope you all have a magical day x

moregarlic · 26/03/2021 08:51

I got patience, which feels quite apt! My lovely mum was saying I need to take the time they’re here to rest and heal and I keep resisting it. I abhor feeling weak. Ohhhh shadow work. You always find me!

HillsBesideTheSea · 26/03/2021 09:37

MoreGarlic it takes a very strong person to acknowledge that they need to take time to rest and heal. It goes against society conditioning, especially for women. But ultimately we can't pour from an empty cup and if we don't look after yourself, you end up not being able to look after anyone eventually.

(also i smiled at your shadow work statement. I feel that.)

Sabel · 26/03/2021 10:05

I must admit the balance on this thread is quite inspirational - for each shaft of light there is some darkness, for each ending there is a beginning and the cup is neither half empty or half full, both have validity! You are a wise and generous group and a true source of good cheer - thank you all.

speakout · 26/03/2021 10:54

Sabel

We are glad to have you as a part of our tribe!!

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Aerwyna · 26/03/2021 10:56

I abhor feeling weak
This is a shadow I wrangle with too moregarlic, like anything we push aside it returns again until I face it head on! In more objective moments I can see how unrealistic it is to berate myself for not being on top form in situations that it would be a superhuman anomaly to be unaffected by. Like Hills, I believe that as women we are taught to push on regardless which is ridiculous if you think about it.

Fear of being vulnerable in any way is natural but it takes a lot of energy to keep up a pretence with ourselves too. I’ve been learning that feeling this way is a sign to give ourselves space, rather than push on.

Perhaps an obscure reference, but one I feel you may relate to as I did- have you watched ‘My Octopus teacher’ on Netflix? The octopus is an incredibly strong and wily creature, no one would objectively call her weak. Yet she is wise enough to retreat, self protect, and indeed exercise patience at times when circumstances mean she is more vulnerable. If she’d pushed herself like us humans are prone to do, she would not have survived. As the title suggests, I think we can learn a lot from her.

Violet how wonderful to hear of your reading with DS1, I can imagine what a powerful experience that was. I agree, there’s treasure in trusting our intuition. I love how you have passed on this gift to him.

I’m interested in hearing everyone’s perspectives of the tarot and have been thinking about the way in which they reflect the human experience. I see them less as a fortune telling tool and more as a mirror to the energies at play. It makes sense to me that they reflect both the light and the shade, as Sabel says, one is impossible without the other.

I think we’re naturally predisposed to be more pleased to see the sun or the ten of cups than the ten of three of swords but if we shy away from the latter we’re missing a trick and taking an unrealistic view of life I think.

For example, like speakout, I see the three of swords as a reflection of our own pain. To me, it’s relevant that there is no blood coming from the heart where the swords pierce it. Rather than being new wounds, they have been there for a long time and the pain they have caused is something we’ve got used to living with. It may longer be relevant but could still be impacting on our day to day experience, the way we relate to others etc. Because we’re used to it doesn’t mean we have to continue to live with it. In fact it would probably serve us to look at how these old wounds are impacting on our experience now and what capacity we have to let this go, to move on. We often hold on to old pain for no other reason than it being familiar.

Likewise, the ten of swords to me does represent a sense of betrayal, something we all experience in life and of course, a painful experience. But as we lie on the ground, feeling the impact of a full set of swords, we have already seen the face of who (or what) has betrayed us, it is now walking away from us. This particular experience is over and our job is to tend to our wounds, recover and put measures in place to prevent ‘future attacks’. We can only do this once we have seen the face of the aggressor. Which of course can be a metaphor for any life circumstance. If we don’t know what makes us feel this way we have less power to learn and change.

There’s no denying that the tarot can be a powerfully rich, deep and sometimes uncomfortable tool to work with. But then life’s like that isn’t it- a whole mixture of darkness and light. To exist in one of these places without allowing space for the other would make for a one dimensional and unrealistic experience.

I think our ‘work’ is in our self awareness. Sometimes we’re not in a place to be open to it all. Like the octopus we must retreat and protect ourselves until we feel stronger.

As BlankTimes and speakout were saying the other day, these are the times when we might step away from the tarot as a tool. I agree there are many oracle/goddess/healing card decks out there that will serve to soothe and uplift without the introspection that the tarot can engender. These can be powerful tools when we are not in the place to dive into self exploration. A time and place for everything, sometimes we play in the intrigue of the shadows, sometimes we need to bask in warmth and light.

Have a magical Friday sisters

Aerwyna · 26/03/2021 10:59

Ha! I’m laughing at my bemoaning lack of words followed by not being able to help producing hundreds of them!
To me, it tells me I’m getting past my own ‘ten of swords’ experience, it is welcome relief, makes me smile.
Thank you for accepting me and my ramblings sisters, I’ll learn succinct one of these days!

speakout · 26/03/2021 11:05

Aerwyna

I was thinking the same- and please don't be succinct! Your wise words are a joy to read.

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Aerwyna · 26/03/2021 11:09

speakout
Thank you dear friend. X

outofthedarkness · 26/03/2021 13:33

Hello. I'm glad I've found this group. It's felt comforting reading through the threads. I feel I am being drawn towards something new or different. I need to prepare but something is holding onto me or pulling me back keeping me stuck making me afraid. It's a very odd sensation. Anyone know what I mean or can explain it to me please? I just pulled the Temperance card. I feel like there is a message for me but I'm not getting it. The fog is too thick.
I look forward to being part of your group if you'll have me. I feel I could learn from your wisdom.

Aerwyna · 26/03/2021 14:29

Welcome outofthedarkness I’m glad you’ve been enjoying reading through the threads.

It sounds like you’re in a liminal place which I know can sometimes feel confusing and contradictory. But it’s natural to feel the pull of the old alongside the push of the new as we grow and change I think.

Temperance is often about moderation and balance so if it were me I might be looking at ways I could achieve more of a sense of balance. It could be about time, diet, habits, sleep or state of mind to name but a few possibilities!

But I know you’ve been reading the threads so you’ll know that the answer is ‘whatever resonates for you’ If something in the imagery of the card stands out to you, or you have a sense of what area of your life could benefit from some attention to balance, then that’ll be what the message is for you. As BlankTimes was saying recently too, it’ll depend on how you framed your question.

I also find that if I’m not seeing the wood for the trees, then speakout’s advice on side stepping is very useful. Do whatever soothes you and step away from needing to push on or force answers that are in the process of emerging. What you need to know will come to you at the right time. The shift will happen simply by creating space for it and allowing the knowings to bubble to the surface in their on time

Aerwyna · 26/03/2021 14:31

*own time!

BlankTimes · 26/03/2021 17:31

Hi and welcome Outofthe darkness

Violet it's lovely to find your DS has such talent - must be hereditary Halloween Grin

Aerwyna I echo Speakout's words " please don't be succinct! Your wise words are a joy to read."

Have a magical weekend everyone!

VioletCharlotte · 26/03/2021 19:19

Good evening all and a warm welcome to our newcomers. Join us by the fire for tea and tarot Brew

Outofthedarkness as others have said, the temperance card is all about balance. When this comes up in readings, its normally because the recipient either has to many plates spinning at once, or because one area of their life is consuming all their energy. If you look deep inside yourself, you'll know what it is that needs your attention. However, as you say, sometimes it can be difficult to see this for ourselves, either because we're too overwhelmed or because we don't really want to admit it to ourselves!

Have a look again at the card. What jumps out at you, apart from the main image? If you're still unsure what the message is, pull another card. Do feel free to tell us what you've got, I'm sure we'd all be happy to have a go at interpreting it for you 😊

Moregarlic I'm so glad you made it to the beach. Being by the sea and laughing with a friend is pure medicine for the soul! I'm itching to get to the sea and will be heading down to the coast as soon as restrictions allow. I'm really looking forward to a dip too. My friend lives by the sea and has been sea swimming throughout the winter. She says it's amazing and very addictive!

I know what you mean about feeling impatient and not wanting to take time to rest and heal. Society puts so much pressure on us all to be on top form all the time, we feel that if we're anything less than superwoman then somehow we've failed. I really dislike the way the media applauds celebrities who snap back into shape immediately having a baby, it's just not realistic for the majority of us and creates unnecessary anxiety at a time when we should be resting and focusing on nurturing ourselves and our babies. It's good that you recognise that you need time to heal.

Aerwyna please don't ever apologies for your ramblings. We all love your posts. You wrote beautifully and your words are so wise. I'm so glad to hear you're recovering from your 'ten of swords experience' Smile

Blessings for a peaceful evening.

speakout · 26/03/2021 19:34

VioletCharlotte

I echo your sentiments- can I also say I love your words too- so rich, full of understanding, - healing for the soul. Your deep understanding of Tarot is a gift to us here. I love reading your posts. Bright blessings dear sister.

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hilariousnamehere · 26/03/2021 21:21

Welcome new sisters and thank you as always, all of you for you wise and gentle words. I've had a crazy couple of days with no time spare and lurking here has kept me going!

Aerwyna I love that your words are suddenly flowing regardless Grin and wise words they are too.

Not even had time for tarot but I love very much this interpretation of the ten of swords, it's given me some insight I didn't know I needed, so thank you. On my phone so can't scroll back to check but I think it was you Violet?

And someone asked a few pages back about my altar! It's a little carved table which stands on my dressing table, and on top is a candle and a wolf figurine with horses carved down him (hard to describe, I'll try and get a photo tomorrow), and a crystal ball for how it reflects the light (it's actually from my photography kit but is much prettier here 😂). My favourite necklaces including the hare I made hang behind and to one side of it, and my bowl of crystals sits underneath, and I add to it with crystals, stones, little talismans, flowers, feathers, all kinds of things that feel appropriate as I go about my days. It's a place to set and hold intentions and a place to mark seasons and occasions and important happenings.

Absolutely no idea if this is the "proper" way to have such a thing but it works for me, and I'm learning as I lean deeper into witchery that we each go our own individual way down this path.

Would love to hear/see anyone else's who would be willing to share.

speakout · 27/03/2021 07:58

hilariousnamehere your altar is yours alone- it can be as improper as you desire!!
A stunning morning here, bright bue sky, frost covering the rooftops- glad I resisted the temptation to plant seeds outdoors!!
Saturday is my no cook day, I will maybe pull some soup out of the feezer for lunch and tonight will be a takeaway for thse that want it or something light for me- baked cheese with salad and hot chilli jam often works for me.
Wishing everyone a calm light day.

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Aerwyna · 27/03/2021 11:04

Good morning, I hope that everyone’s day brings a chance for ease and replenishment.

Your ‘no cook day’ sounds perfect speakout and morning stunning where you are. It’s bright here at the moment but forecast to be changeable. Yesterday started out bright and then we had hail!

Thank you all so much for your kind words and encouragement. This is such a wonderful supportive place and I love coming here to read the latest discussions and insights. Such wisdom and strength in everyone’s beautiful words. Thank you.

Violet I agree with speakout that there’s healing energy in your posts, and I always find new perspectives in your insight too.

I can feel that desire to get to the sea, it’s going to be such a joy when you get there! In the meantime I’ll send a whoosh of sea energy your way when I’m near it.

Wild swimming seems to have really grown in popularity here this past year- the most accessible spots are teeming with dryrobed bodies when I visit! I can see why, as your friend says, I think it’s addictive.

hilarious I enjoyed reading about your altar, which sounds beautiful and perfect! I agree, our path is our own and that’s very much part of the magic.

I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s full moon in Libra, the theme of balance continues! I’ll be charging some carnelian that I was drawn to to support my roots and engage that dynamic Aries energy we’re approaching. I have Mars in Aries and very much enjoy it’s fiery action energy. I know there’s carnelian to be found on our coastlines but I have never found any so the next best thing was to buy myself a uk sourced piece.

Wishing everyone a lovely weekend

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