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How can Christians feel they won’t get covid?

92 replies

TowandaForever · 19/03/2020 18:31

My Christian friends keep sending me scripture and videos saying the lord is on the throne and will protect them and they won’t get it.

I find this so hard to believe/understand. Can anyone help?

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Toddlerteaplease · 20/03/2020 22:25

My friend who's a senior RC bishop has been ordered to stay at home by his diocesan emergency committee.

FaithInfinity · 20/03/2020 22:51

All our local churches are shutting and doing virtual posts and services?

Russellbrandshair · 20/03/2020 23:00

I’m not the only one on this thread who is being told this by multiple people

And multiple people who are Christians in this thread are telling you that’s not what most Christians think. So perhaps you DO need to open your mind a bit OP. Isn’t the fact that churches are all closed a pretty large clue that this isn’t a mainstream thought? My church and all the local churches are holding internet services instead so people can articulate at home. If they truly believed they were immune to CV they wouldn’t bother doing this would they?!

Russellbrandshair · 20/03/2020 23:01

Participate not articulate

Etinox · 20/03/2020 23:30

My Facebook friends are at least 40% practising ‘churched’ Christians including Baptists, RC, Anglican (high and low) Mormon and Pentecostal. No posts like this. I think it’s a critical thinking- if the people posting what OP is seeing weren’t Christian they’d be posting 5G/ germ welfare twaddle.

Lougle · 20/03/2020 23:35

Our Church is full of faith that God will be with us during this time. We've also cancelled all church meetings, home group meetings, etc., because God gave us brains so we can understand risk.

We had our home group meeting over Zoom this week and our home group will have a quick Zoom meet up on Sunday morning.

SageRosemary · 20/03/2020 23:50

I just watched about 15 seconds of that video link, just enough time to figure out that this is not a mainstream Christianity feed, the chap sounds like a delusional conspiracy theorist - all the hallmarks of a CULT. And did you spot the fundraising links in the blurb?

Here in Ireland, our church was taking precautions in not offering the Sign of Peace for weeks, installing hand sanitiser but announcing over a week ago that regular Masses were being suspended for the duration of the crisis.

MyOtherProfile · 20/03/2020 23:55

It's possible that the multiple people saying this to OP are all from the same slightly deluded church.

mathanxiety · 21/03/2020 06:06

The guy in the video is named Warren David Horak.

Here is his LinkedIn page -
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I would love to know how you came upon these people who are all saying the same thing to you, @TowandaForever.

Did you perhaps attend a 'get rich by investing in real estate' seminar?

mathanxiety · 21/03/2020 06:08

Churches that believe in imminent 'end times' are a thing, but they are not at all mainstream.

Seventyone72seventy3 · 21/03/2020 06:16

OP it sounds as if you want someone to say it's true. It's not. These sort of beliefs are dangerous and are not Christian at all. You need to engage some critical thinking skills!

user1480880826 · 21/03/2020 06:16

I hope your thick friends are still social distancing/isolating even if they think they’re invincible? Or are they being good Christians and spreading pain and suffering as far and wide as they can?

IkeaSlave · 21/03/2020 07:13

Erm .... I think your reply to me pretty much demonstrates you are a bit of a rigid thinker

Go back through the thread and count up all the examples you have been given on each side. Remember as well to factor in size of church so 'the entire anglican church has closed to physical worship together' = a lot,but 'my brothers friends wife's hairdresser' = 1

If you can't see that your initial view is not reflective of 99.9% approx UK based Christians (a ballpark figure and perhaps a tiny bit exaggerated) then yes you are a rigid thinker

Madhairday · 21/03/2020 09:45

Good point IKEA!

Lougle, yes, that's how our church are thinking. We know God's with us but that doesn't mean we somehow have a cloak of protection. In this time we're concentrating on finding ways to reach out to all, especially those lonely in isolation. That's what matters right now.

MyOtherProfile · 21/03/2020 10:13

I think we are protected but more in terms of having peace through difficult times than not actually experiencing the difficult times.

sashh · 21/03/2020 10:19

There are Christians and Christians, and half of them do not recognise the other half, as Christian.

I think this sort of thinking goes along with the snake handlers, who not only torture the snakes but have had people die from snake bites, they still think their God will protect them from the snakes.

isittheholidaysyet · 21/03/2020 10:33

I think also they can sometimes be a lost in translation problem.

I think "God will protect us"

That doesn't mean I don't think we will get the virus, it doesn't mean I don't think we'll be seriously ill. It doesn't mean we won't die. It doesn't mean we won't have serious financial repercussions.

It means that whatever happens God has my back, is with me and will help me to cope. He will make me a better, holier person through it. However tough it is.

Also Christians are (or should be!) ready to die, at any moment, and we do not fear death for ourselves.
(That doesn't mean that we don't fear the pain and heartache of losing our loved ones)

So if I say I'm not afraid of death and God will protect us, it might not mean what you think it means.
(Day 3 of self isolation here!)

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 21/03/2020 10:34

If you can't see that your initial view is not reflective of 99.9% approx UK based Christians (a ballpark figure and perhaps a tiny bit exaggerated) then yes you are a rigid thinker

Exactly. I dont understand why the OP is rigidly clinging to this idea when multiple people have told her its not the case. Its like she is emotionally invested in wanting to think this because it confirms her own confirmation bias. I'm afraid you are wrong, OP, no matter how much you want this to be true.

TowandaForever · 21/03/2020 13:50

@MyOtherProfile

The majority are from the same church. But I attend that’s church and that is not the message we are given!

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TowandaForever · 21/03/2020 13:51

@Seventyone72seventy3

I don’t believe it’s true but I wanted to try and understand why they do.

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TowandaForever · 21/03/2020 13:55

I don’t think this is the view of all Christians.

I wanted to try and understand why some ( and it seems to be the ones I know) think this.

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IkeaSlave · 21/03/2020 15:42

You go to a church full of eccentric thinkers. So maybe your question could be 'why do many of the people at my church feel they won't get covid?' Is your church a standard cofe/catholic/methodist church or a more unusual variant?

Russellbrandshair · 21/03/2020 15:59

OP if it’s only your church saying these things why on earth don’t you ask THEM? How on earth are the rest of us meant to know why when we have already told you we don’t believe what they believe? Surely if you go to this church you are allowed to ask questions? If not then I would seriously consider why you’re going as it sounds to me to be more like a cult than a church

allthiswasunseen · 21/03/2020 16:04

As a student I shared a flat with a very committed christian. She was preparing to go on a bible boat, evangelising around the world. She asked what jabs she needed to get to vaccinate against diseases in the countries she was going to. She was told she didn't need to as God would protect her. She was incredulous and furious! She did get the jabs.

Ihateselfishbastards · 21/03/2020 16:08

Remember sometimes god likes to take a bit of a holiday, like during the Holocaust.