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Any Witches Here Part 4 [Edited by MNHQ]

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speakout · 24/10/2018 19:09

Or Wiccans. or Pagans? Or anyone who is interested in a magical path or feels some magical stirrings.

A place for support, learning, swapping ideas and magical inspiration

All welcome.

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speakout · 06/11/2018 11:21

I agree with blanktimes- I don't lend money.

If my children need money I give it to them.

Adults have banks or usually the ability to work.

Bellecose2 nI would try some workings with Mercury. Do you know where the planet is in your natal chart? I have a Mercury combust sun , which can be tricky to manage.

Making peace and finding balance will help.

Try to work with Neptune too, we need restrictions in life sometimes to moderate.

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YashmisCrone · 06/11/2018 11:33

Bellecose
I know from experience how hard it is to change the you people expect to be met with when they ask for something like money. IME it takes incremental ‘re-training’ until they see you in a different light. To do this, you need to first see yourself in a different light.

I think the difficulty of assertiveness is underestimated. It’s a tricky balance to achieve. I’ve met many a person along the way who would define their aggressive behaviour as assertive...

I agree with BlankTimes that simply practicing saying no can be helpful. We’re conditioned to make excuses and just a simple no with no explanation can be powerful. (There’s no room for argument or negotiation)

Some good advice I once heard in relation to changing our own behaviour was to not expect to do it all overnight. Aim for incremental, 10% change. So maybe practice being assertive in everyday situations where the outcome isn’t so emotionally loaded. Eg ‘I prefer my coffee with less milk’ or similar rather than just accepting what you’re given. I think it takes off the pressure in terms of what you might currently see as ‘innate traits’ (they’re not) you have and helps you start seeing yourself in a new, assertive light. That then helps with the confidence to project yourself as such if that makes sense.

I think I’d also look at my own ‘belief system’ around money. eg do I feel safe with money, am I comfortable using it to meet my own needs etc? If you find something (like fear of not having enough, guilt for not giving it away etc) then work on telling yourself a new ‘story’ around it (eg money is energy, I will attract what I need, I am worthy of using this energy to nurture myself etc)

I’d look at self care (always central IMO) and maybe a ritual to protect your energy (working from the premise that money is energy too) along with the suggestions above to shift your mindset in relation to yourself as an assertive being x

YashmisCrone · 06/11/2018 11:36

Making peace and finding balance will help.

Wise words as ever speakout I love the way you succinctly make statements that it takes me many more words to try and describe! Grin

Winterfellwonderland · 06/11/2018 11:36

Morning ladies,

What are the best plants/flowers to have outside your front door or back door for protection? X

speakout · 06/11/2018 11:41

YashmisCrone

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Bellecose2 · 06/11/2018 11:57

My fear just got realised... I said no, but the look of hurt killed me inside. I felt so awful I added on an explanation but it all went pear shaped.

I know I need to work on this. I have lessons today and the woman running the class is all about empowerment so I think it will help me.

@YashmisCrone.. you've hit the nail on the head in relation to fear. I know what it's like to struggle and my independence /security is so important to me. I feel like such a mean person but I know I can't back down

Thank you all, this will help me for the next time.

@speakout... I think I'm saturn.

Elphame · 06/11/2018 17:35

Well done *Bellecose" Saying no gets so much easier with practice. You are not responsible for how people react to your no. Once people realise that you are strong enough to say no it's funny how quickly they stop asking.

Winterfellwonderland I have a rosemary tree by the back door, a rowan tree at the bottom of the garden. My front is guarded by a rose bush and my fences with brambles. I also have a money plant in my front porch to attract good luck and good fortune.

speakout · 06/11/2018 17:39

Bellecose2

I am sorry that this thing made you feel bad.,

But no one has the right to ask you for money- in fact I think it is quite a rude thing to do.

Someone appeared hurt when you said no- but you had a perfect right to say no.

I had a friend ask to borrow money a few weeks ago- and it annoyed me.

Annoyed because I was being put into a difficult situation, I did say no, but I was more angry than any feeling of letting a friend down.

Try to let go of any feeling that you have let someone down.

You were put into a difficult situation and that is unfair of your friend.

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Winterfellwonderland · 06/11/2018 18:37

Elphame thanks

YashmisCrone · 06/11/2018 18:43

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HillsBesideTheSea · 06/11/2018 19:41

The rambling is helpful to me YashmisCrone. I need to figure out techniques for surviving parties and celebrations. Particularly around holidays that I do not enjoy for various historical reasons. So what you view as ramblings are glimpses and hints that perhaps maybe I can and how, but ultimately it will come down to practice and focus on my part. Thus helpful.

My chronic illnesses have flared really badly and concentration is currently compromised.

Blank thank you for the suggestion of the microwaveable heat pads. Unfortunately my ability to kill microwaves is far great than my kettle issues. Additionally I find a lot of the microwavable pads are either not mouldable enough, don't get hot enough or too heavy for the muscles that need them. My hunt for a new physio will need to continue tomo. I guess today is my reminder to put it high on my priority list.

Bellecose2 · 06/11/2018 19:54

@YashmisCrone Thank you... yes, an 'unhealthy dynamic' is very apt for my situation too and I know I need to work on my boundaries .. though I tend to go to the other extreme and then shut everyone out! I vaguely recall schemata therapy as one of the tools for working with the inner child and making sense of adult relationships? I might dig out some old books and refresh my memory. I'm not very compassionate with myself and I don't really like going back to my childhood, but I will grit my teeth and delve.

Regarding your relative and communication, I have had a sense of that with someone I loved who could no longer speak. When I look back on it now, I think of it as the most purest connection I ever experienced with them.

@speakout.. My stressed mind misunderstood your earlier question Blush I will look into Mercury and it's position in my chart and read up on that, thank you.

@Elphame... not friends but connected by marriage, hence the guilt.

@owlshooting... The author lives in St Buryan, Cornwall.

Hope everyone has a lovely evening.

YashmisCrone · 06/11/2018 20:19

Thank you Hills,
it’s helpful for me to be able to share here and I’m glad what I say makes some sense! It can be very difficult being so ‘porous’ but it’s also a gift IMO. I agree, it can take focus and practice can make it manageable but it’s worth the effort over time.

I hope your flare up doesn’t last too long and that you’re able to take the time you need to give yourself the care you need right now. Sending healing thoughts your way.

Bellecose
I agree, it’s a tricky balance to say the least. Sometimes I’ve found it necessary to ‘shut out’ then come back to the dynamic later with a fresh perspective myself.

Yes, I think schema (?) therapy is about working on patterns developed in traumatic childhood situations. I’m not overly familiar with it though. I don’t think you should have to dig anything out from the past that you don’t feel safe in doing- it’s not always necessary. But learning to accept nurturing from yourself can heal some deep rooted ‘stuff’ and change the way you value yourself in a very positive and productive way.

I love your description of ‘the purest communication’ So beautiful. It’s amazing how much is about energy rather than words isn’t it.

Sending you love Flowers

owlshooting · 06/11/2018 20:26

Bellecose - that's interesting. I once stayed in that area on holiday. The whole area had a very powerful and strange energy. The house we were staying had many indications it was owned by a witch. I think there are quite a few covens nearby.

YashmisCrone · 06/11/2018 20:28

It’s not very ‘witchy’ but I like ‘Action for Happiness’ take on self compassion. For me, personal development is an important part of my witches path. I like to use it alongside my rituals and practices..

www.actionforhappiness.org/news/whyself-compassionissoimportant

Craftycorvid · 06/11/2018 20:37

Hi, can I join in? Pagan, Witch, pretty eclectic interests. Lovely to read all the posts and look at some gorgeous photos of cats and moonrisings. I’ve ‘always’ been Pagan, I think, but didn’t know there was a word for it until well into adulthood.

YashmisCrone · 06/11/2018 20:50

Hello Craftycorvid 👋
It’s good to have you join us,
Welcome to our lovely, supportive space Smile

sockportal · 06/11/2018 21:00

Hello all, I wanted to share with you an odd occurrence. The other night I had a really vivid dream that one of my friends insisted that I buy a flask to keep in my car as she was worried it's going to be a bad winter.

The next day my witchy gran gave me a brand new flask that had been under her stairs for years and she insisted I took it. I'm not going to argue with two clear messages!

VioletCharlotte · 06/11/2018 21:29

Evening everyone. So many interesting posts to catch up on. I really need to start making notes of all the things I want to read and look into that are mentioned on this thread. There's such a wealth of knowledge here.

I've been having a strange few weeks. Various rather odd conversations and people I've not spoken to for a long time getting in touch from out of the blue. It's made feel me a bit unsettled.

Bellecose2 · 06/11/2018 21:54

Yashmin .Smile. that first paragraph on the site you've referenced clearly resonates with me this evening! Thank you for that direction.. I will certainly read through the site.

@owlshooting... How is that for coincidence? I think she started a coven and then was a leader(?) of a Pagan moot (apologies to our Pagan sisters for either my bad terminology and poor cognitive functions today)

To the others who are noting strange occurrences, I'm noticing similar things. Minor premonitions that just come into my mind so naturally as thoughts I almost miss them (I had always assumed premonitions came with some loud, unknown voice)

Welcome craftycorvid...

HillsBesideTheSea · 06/11/2018 23:55

I came across a blog that had a quote about trees that I thought you might appreciate.

"It is not so much for its beauty the forest makes a claim upon men's hearts, as for that subtle something , that quality of air that emanation from old trees that so wonderfully changes and renews a weary spirit"

It was atributed to Robert Lewis Stevenson.

-disclaimer I have not cross referenced the quote to check its accuracy from where I saw it.

Am I correct in thinking that the old the trees the strong its associated magic/power?

PawneeParksDept · 07/11/2018 01:38

I've been working quite a bit the last few weeks on Road Opening and it seems to be bearing fruit.

Had a great meeting this week about potential opportunities

And

I liaise with someone externally who I find quite ineffectual but going around her would normally be considered a massive breach of etiquette

Only today I had something urgent to handle and she wasn't in and I ended up speaking to someone I know who is more of a thinker and proactive. We had a personal chat and hopefully she will now be more mindful in referring more road opening type things for me to her less able colleague.

Love the strength and ideas this thread has helped me discover 😍

speakout · 07/11/2018 06:37

Morning all, an earlish start here.

I had a lot of work yesterday, luckily OH was off work and carried the can on the domestic front and I managed to put in 12 hours yesterday.
Still feeling tired. but facing still a huge pile. The gym will have to be cancelled this morning.
Welcome Craftycorvid make yourself at home, glad you could join us.

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speakout · 07/11/2018 06:45

PawneeParksDept

Interesting what you are saying about road opening.
I have done a lot of work on opening my heart chakra to abundance.

I do believe we have internal blocks which are subconsciously placed and prevent us from moving or accepting good things.

We can however work on opening out hearts and minds and clear the way.
A lot of is is about self acceptance. feeling worthy,

What YashmisCrone said about self compassion hit the nail on the head completely. And strangely was listening to a radio show the other day about that very subject.

Treating ourselves as well as we treat others can remove these blocks.
When we release ourselves we can fly.

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Bellecose2 · 07/11/2018 08:38

Good morning, a new day and feel invigorated.

@HillsBesidethesea... Loved that quotation you posted. I don't know enough about the subject to answer with any authority, but I would imagine that to be the case.

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