All you atheist parents wondering how to broach the religion topic to your kids listen up!

[Rhubarb]

I'm a catholic and I teach my kids about all religions. I explain that some people believe different things and some people don't believe at all. I tell them what the Bible says about creation and what science says.

I tell them what my personal beliefs are but I encourage them to make their own minds up. I answer questions with "well this is what I believe but you might think something different".

I take them to Church and they know about the religion we follow, but I do encourage questions as far as I can bearing in mind their young ages.

So what I say to you is this. Don't put a barrier between yourselves and religion when it comes to your kids. Arm them with information and let them make their own minds up. If you push them a certain way, chances are that they'll reject it later on in life. Whereas if you add your support to whatever they decide to believe or not, it will give them the confidence to choose their own paths.

You may be disappointed in their choices but don't try to influence them too strongly one way or the other.

So says me.

Ahem..............anyone watch Eastenders tonight

Funny DC used to be the stirrer, but now he's gone all sensible and I can actually have a decent conversation with him without wanting to throttle him with cheesewire!

I guess someone had to step in and take over though.

I agree that he's less contentious but he still arts bashes and he still lives on a parallel universe from the one I inhabit.

Is anyone honestly genuinely offended by the arts grad stuff though? I'm not, and I have an English degree (of sorts). I don't agree with him on the issue, and think I'm quite clever really, but I cannot honestly say I feel mortally wounded by it.

It irks rather than offends. How did your wrinkly treatment go?

arts grad stuff? I must have missed that. Give us the gist of it, if I flick through this thread my eyes will go all funny.

Given that all the under grads at uni mercilessly rip the p* out of the science students, I can ahrdly object to being laughed at as an arts student can I? I find it mightily amusing really.

And good Ol' DC has such an interest in philosophy and religion- which IS an arts subject!

Not much arts bashing on this thread but invariably it comes up in most threads he visits. By his own admission he never tires of it.

I never ridiculed science students - sort of secretly admired them.

My wrinkly treatment...hmmm... well my chest has settled down nicely, though I see no discernible change. I think my jawline is slightly improved, but the Botox was a bit heavy handed and I miss my crows feet. I do like having a smooth forehead, but when I raise my eyebrows they form rather odd upside down 'V's so I look slightly like a panto villainess. But I have no lines at all. I think I will go back for Botox but ask for more subtle result next time.
Mind you, I should be grateful, I've had such a shit week without all this stuff my face would probably be dragging along the floor.

I sort of smile indulgently every time it comes up. I do think it spoils his arguments though, which is a shame.

Aww gimme a quote please!

I need something because I have sun damage to that area. Was thinking of that derma-abrasion - do forgive me if I haven't spelt it correctly. I am a cosmetic surgery virgin.

A mild glycolic peel would be good for you, or some laser photo-rejuvenation. I've just had my first peel and thought it was fab. Your skin doesn't actually peel off or anything, it just refreshes your skin. I think a course of those would be fab. Laser rejuvention does atually reverse sun damage so is v healthy.

plu,,y we dont ridicule we take the mick- an entirely differnt thing when done with a generous spirit and open heart LOL. Much as we take the mick out of the young kids, and they do us. banter, you might say.

These non-believers are just soooooo childish don't you find?

Thank you. I wonder if it's safe in pregnancy. Perhaps I should wait til after. That treatment sounds like a good plan. Expensive? The wrinkles are not terrible but because I am fair they are very noticable.

Ha ha Glad things are altogether more friendly now

yah boo sucks to you

Think that you might not be allowed in pregnancy - not that it would hurt I'm sure, but you know how cautious people are.
Save up and have it as a treat after! Yes, it is quite expensive. Tell you waht, next time I do a feature I'll post on MN and you can volunteer to be a tester, eh?

Rhubarb - is that one of your green men with willies?

You're going doooooooooooooooooooooown and when you do guess who's gonna be flicking the Vs at ya huh?

Hope you like hot places!

You leave my green 10-willied man out of this!

Oh are you a journo? Yes I would be up for doing a tester.