"Prove to me god doesn't exist"

[TanithDaUnicorn]

This argument is usually used in a debate when you've backed a religious person into a corner, and they can't answer. They always have this in their arsenal. Right next to "Mysterious ways" And "That's just what I believe"

How arrogant that you (Talking to someone who would use this argument) Think it is MY job to prove to YOU that your god doesn't exist. Prove to me Pink unicorns don't exist. Can't? Then you should believe it because you can't rule it out!

You may think that example is a little extreme but I see no difference between "Prove to me god doesn't really exist" To "Prove to me lord voldemort doesn't really exist"

What are your thoughts on this argument? Do you use it? Has someone used it on you? Do you get as frustrated as I do?

You're not making any sense. What has Darwin's theory have to do with what happens to the soul when we die? It's not a religion. They are completely unrelated.

Ok, my bad.
Maybe the writer is not writing it clearly or the reader just not understanding it.

I thought it was very simple.

Those who profess to believing in Darwin's theory of evolution as an explanation of existence of life on this planet, must surely, also explain what happens to the soul when we die too. The body and soul together makes us the being as whole.

He cannot simply propose that we evolved from bacteria and other organisms yet cannot say what happens when those living organism (humans in this case) when they die?

You cannot propose a theory that only provides half the 'so called' answer of being on this planet and not provide the 'other' what happens when those living being dies.

We have eyes, we can clearly see something leaving the bodies, call it a soul or whatever and the body eventually turns into dust and mixes with the earth.

But, where does the that soul go? It cannot just disappear into the ether?

Those who believe in God know or believe where they came from and where they go after death.

Now, that's more reassuring and conviencing and believable then Darwin's theory of evolution which is based on hypothesises and assumptions after observering natural interactions in the nature.

Anyway, I can see this discussion is not going anywhere with constant repitions.

So, thank you for the discussions.

I suggest you read up on evolution because you don't seem to have the faintest idea of what it actually is.

I never said I know much about evolution as it's not something that makes any sense or has any logic other than pure speculation and theory.

And you don't quite seem to understand how your evolutionary theory explain the concept of death and soul and what happens to it?

It doesn't. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with the soul or what happens when it dies it whether it even exists. They are completely unrelated. It's not that you don't know much about evolution, it's that you don't even know what it is.

If you do not know much about evolution, then how do you know that it does not make any sense?

More broadly, do you think that Christians should not be scientists, or that Christians should not use the scientific method to look at the world?

And you don't quite seem to understand how your evolutionary theory explain the concept of death and soul and what happens to it?

I under stand that it doesn't explain, or try to explain, those things. Why would it?

The general theory or relativity doesn't say anything about death. Is that wrong? Cell theory says nothing about the soul, is that illogical?

If you are asserting that God does not exist and human development is the product of evolution yet it cannot explain the concept of death and cell biology cannot provide any evidence of soul then surely evolution cannot be true? There is obvious and important missing link in the theory of evolution.

Whereas, if I look around and observe what is around me, the perfect order of the universe, the placement of earth in the perfect orbital stationery so that life can exist. The creation of human the function of human body and the organs are ultimate evidence of the existence of a creator, God far above any knowledge can comprehend. Yet God have given us humans enough intellect and guidance to know that God exist.

It is completely irrational not to ponder and debat as how the universe came into being and everything in it.

If you look around you and see the evidence, you will find everything in perfect order. There, in order for that to happen surely and reason person would know you need something to create rules for the order to establish.

You cannot have any laws that we are bound by from disorder and chaos.

Everywhere science looks and discovers it finds perfect order.

That is the creation of God and not random evolution

Therefore, there's more conclusive evidence of God's existence than not.

This is not the place to have in-depth theological debates but I can give you evidence of knowledge that science did not have until recently in terms of time but God revealed with perfection long before science.

At the end of the day. The truth is, there will always be those who will never believe in God no matter what evidence and signs you bring them and there are others who use their intellectual faculties and accept the signs and evidences after pondering upon them and believe God because those evidences could not have come from anyone other than God/Creator who is independent of His creation.

God cannot be born nor die. God is everliving and self sustaining. God sustains everything and does not need anyone to sustaine Him.

Anyone claiming to be God other than these attributes cannot be God.

Whatever. Its clear you don't even know what evolution is and don't give a shit about learning. Believe what you want.

“We have eyes, we can clearly see something leaving the bodies, call it a soul or whatever and the body eventually turns into dust and mixes with the earth.”

Can you expand on this.
What have you seen leaving bodies? What did it look like?

Look around at the world, if thats not evidence there is no loving God then I don't know what is. If there is a God, then its evidence God is a complete arsehole.

Whereas, if I look around and observe what is around me, the perfect order of the universe, the placement of earth in the perfect orbital stationery so that life can exist. The creation of human the function of human body and the organs are ultimate evidence of the existence of a creator, God far above any knowledge can comprehend. Yet God have given us humans enough intellect and guidance to know that God exist.

I don't mean this to be rude but you have no scientific literacy at all.

You don't understand evolution. Fine. No need to insult those who do.

Again your fundamental lack of knowledge about how science works is holding you back. Its incredibly rare a scientific discovery like evolution is disproven. New facts come to light over years of study and instead of disproving the initial discovery all that happens is the edges get smoothed out.

As I've previously replied to you we did not evolve from "Apes and Monkeys" so you're either now being ignorant or thick.

I implore you to put the good book down once in a while and perhaps pick something science based up. It will do you the world of good.

@z4zakaha

www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Smart-Kids-Scientists-Geniuses/dp/1510754121/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2GT6GNU2PRDJD&keywords=evolution+for+kids&qid=1668279583&sprefix=evolution+for+kids%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-4

Give this a read?