Tarot help - any experts?

[drLu]

Not sure if I have posted in the right place but here goes....

I got a pack of cards years ago and a really good book. I would often ask questions and the cards would come up with pretty accurate readings. Even if I didn't want them to be right they later proved to be.

Anyway, I still use them many years later. Most recently to ask if our horrid, old abusive neighbours will be moving. (They are retired and hate living next to a family. This is the third spring they have put house on market). Everytime I ask if they will move this year I get The page of cups. I just can't work out the meaning.

Any help?

Oh, for the love the of Pete, it's a deck of cards!

We have a fairy door in our home at Xmas for the Elf on the Shelf. Is that evil, too?

Apparantly so expat- my family ( Baptists) think that Santa is the devil. My nephew even gets taught that is school.

Italian said "I believe....". They went on to say why they believed it. It was not an emphatic claim of existence, it was a statement of belief. At no time did they ask that you believe Head. If Italian brought the people who claim to have been damaged by tarot to your house, would that be enough for you?

They'd have to establish it was a malevolent spiritual realm at work and not a suggestible imagination in overdrive etc. I don't doubt some people think they have been harmed by spiritual forces after dabbling in the occult but I would argue it's psychological and nowt to do with an external dark force. Those issues would have manifested in other ways.

When you say 'I believe' you are saying 'I think this is fact'. Don't be surprised if someone points out a lack of supporting evidence. I don't care who you or anyone was talking to when the original claim was made, it's an unsupported position and as such should be addressed.

Stay away from anything devil related.

What about devilled eggs? They're okay surely?

Head, when I say "I believe...", I am saying "I believe..", not "this is fact". When you say "I believe...." are you saying " this is fact"?

But surely when you say 'believe' you mean you think it is a fact as in that is the reality. Like 'I believe Jesus died for me' actually means 'I believe it is a fact that Jesus died for me and it actually happened'

No. A fact is something that can't be disputed. It is something that just is eg. Angela Merkel is the current chancellor of Germany. This is a fact. It will not change, regardless of who looks at it. Angela Merkel is a danger to Europe. This is a belief. It is up for discussion, other people may believe differently and still be correct. Facts may be looked at in the formulation of beliefs (as are experiences), but they are not the same.

So back to my question, when you Head say "I believe..." are you saying "This is a fact"?

So the belief that tarot cards are harmful. If you say you believe that tarot cards are harmful are you not saying you believe it to be a fact that they are harmful?

When you say 'I believe' you are saying 'I think it's a fact' are you not?

A fact is a fact. What I think of that fact doesn't change it. No one with different experience/knowledge/background will change the fact. It can be proven/disproven. It is objective.

When I say "I believe", I am saying something subjective. I am making a statement about me. You do not have to believe it, you don't have to agree with it. My beliefs are personal to me. So when I say "I believe", I am most definitely not saying "this is a fact".

When you say "I believe..." are you saying "this is a fact"?

I have a deck of tarot cards. Any pointers for the first-timer? I don't believe in any sort of divine at all.

They won't tell you when they will be moving, nothing can do that. Maybe they are also telling you what you'd like to hear, not what you should hear. IME a tarot reading will generally come 'true' at some point because the cards are generic. The High Priestess, for example, tells of a fertile woman and you probably meet one of these every day. They are good for making you pay more attention to what's going on around you, I think.

Some people are daft to be intimidated by a pack of cards when they put their faith on tales of people walking on water and healing the sick! Surely it's all about giving people hope, which can't be a bad thing.

If you do another reading, can you ask them where my cards are, please? I appear to have misplaced them

Get to know them, expat. Read, shuffle, look at them, and look at their meanings. Then start to do a few basic readings for yourself (the past, present and future is a good one to start with as it only needs three cards). Things like a 6 month spread take a long time to master.

Will do. Thanks. Am curious and open-minded.

Open minded is all you need. I seem to be more accurate when I'm slightly tipsy for some reason, I expect it's because I don't care too much by then

I was told (by a druid friend) that they stop giving accurate or understandable readings if you use them more than three times a day. It can be easy to repeat if you don't quite get (or like) what they are saying, so it may be wise to rephrase the question rather than repeat it (if this makes sense).

Dont expatinscotland.
I may be able to guess why you would want to.

And you may think that you have nothing to lose. Nothing whatsoever.
But you do. You most certainly do.

And you may think that you no longer care about anything. But you do.

Expat isn't dabbling in the occult or anything sinister.

Because my child died? I do not believe in any afterlife. I believe when you die, that's it. I would like, however, some guidance on some issues, fairly minor, in our present.

Some people make me laugh

FFS snookle. Enough of the sinister warnings

Sorry snoofle!

It's downright funny how judgemental people get.

I think some people watch too many films or read too many trashy books.