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YEC part Trois

406 replies

PedroYoniLikesCrisps · 12/05/2013 09:15

So we're still going, perhaps not as YEC as originally, but there's some good debate still occurring! Can we link from previous again?

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Januarymadness · 15/05/2013 12:49

fwiw skip "numbers" it is dull dull dull

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 12:53

January Grin

Where can I find 'scientific method' in the bible...? Not come across it so far.

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 13:35

Daftdame

I would never pretend to be an expert, I really would have to go back to the books. However this is one of the reasons I don't swallow the whole scientific theory as fact nonsense, as scientific understanding evolves

Evolution is a fact - the theory of evolution is our explanation of that fact. As better data & evidence emerges the theory might change a bit, or become refined - but the FACT of evolution never will.

Science's great strength is it's ability & willingness to change it's mind to fit the evidence. Unlike religion which never changes it's mind, and never will.

Oh - and there was no "evolution from ape to man". Aside from the fact that we ARE apes, we share a common ancestor with primates, we didn't evolve from them.

Still don't get this obsession with epigenetics.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 13:44
Smile

There are 66 dislikes and an argument about god in the comments Hmm someone's commented '66 creationists disliked this video' Wink

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 13:46

Blush Sorry wrong link Blush

I've not been perving over Matthew Baynton, oh no

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 13:47

Will go and do something constructive now! After one more HH clip...

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 13:58

"Although man evolved from monkey's millions of years ago....." Grrrr, Horrible Histories, NO!

Quite liked that Dick Turpin link, Sabrina Hmm

I love YT arguments about God. I have an inbox full of messages telling me I'm going to have intimate relations with Satan in Hell.

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 13:58

Sorry....Hmm was meant to be Wink

Ooops.

Januarymadness · 15/05/2013 14:02

seriouslyAngry Thats cowardly. If you are going to attack someone at least have the courage of your convictions to do it publicly! Ellie please report to MN personal attacks are equally against mn code in pm form.

daftdame · 15/05/2013 14:05

Well the Epigenetics is interesting to me re. the Hominid skeletons found - they could just be human with different gene expression due to inheritance as described in the Bible. Who decides / decided the classification?

From here it all starts to unravel for me....so I'll go. Like the Dick Turpin clip though Grin.

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 14:07

No, no....on YouTube I mean, January! Sorry, should have been clearer :)

daftdame · 15/05/2013 14:08

Sad at the messages Ellie. I fully expect people to have different beliefs and Mumsnet is a choice. I'm glad you're on here so I can talk about these subjects.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 14:10

Glad you all liked Dick Turpin Blush

Januarymadness · 15/05/2013 14:13

oh you got me all Angry then Grin

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 14:14

Again - I'm talking about Youtube, honestly. I've never had any message like that from here. And it's mostly rabid American evangelicals who can't spell, so I don't let it worry me in the slightest. I find it funny.

Have the rest of you ever heard Richard Dawkins reading his hate mail? Hilarious......

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 14:16

And

daftdame · 15/05/2013 14:20

I'm afraid Dawkins doesn't do it for me...might watch the Dick Turpin clip again though! Grin

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 14:26

Apropos of nothing...my fellow skeptics...have you seen ?

Wonderful.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 14:36

Oh yes Ellie. Love Tim Minchin Grin

BackOnlyBriefly · 15/05/2013 14:40

mass sterilisations, lobotomies, the politics involved surrounding childbirth, child rearing - medical intervention or non-intervention.

Examples of how people use the results of science and nothing to do with the scientific method of gaining knowledge.

How far do they go to register internal bias.

People can be biased, but the nice thing about the system of scientific discovery and peer review is that it minimises and ultimately cancels out the bias.

daftdame · 15/05/2013 14:41

Ah, if life was just like Scooby Do!

I love my life with the monsters and myths and miracles and God. Well there you go...

EllieArroway · 15/05/2013 14:46

The Scooby theme song always takes me back to when my DS was a toddler - we'd spend hours singing it together.

Anyway, wish me luck all....off to have a wisdom tooth out :(

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 14:51

Good luck Ellie.

While we're still lighthearted:

daftdame · 15/05/2013 14:52

Ellie God bless.Grin (Well you wouldn't really want Lady Luck either...)!

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/05/2013 14:54

Or Grin

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