Okay, I'm back - with a few rules before I agree to participate. But first, some announcements.
Thanks to Emma for having my back on this thread. I love that Voltaire quote too, Emma (although it isn't clear that Voltaire actually said it). It is one of my life's guiding principles - along with, "Do unto others as you would be done by."
Before coming back, I did some research perusing several other similar threads on Mumsnet. Many of you have been doing this for a very long time - sucking in creationists and theists so you can ridicule them. (I would think you could find something better to do with your time.)
Here are a few of the gems I found:
Cotedazur: "Carbon dating shows irrefutably that [fossils] are millions of years old."
LOL! Cote obviously knows little about carbon dating.
NobleGiraffe: "Jodie you must accept that there is a logical link between YEC and intolerance of homosexuality."
A false - not to mention bigoted - thing to say.
SolidGoldBrass: "FFS! Anyone who actually believes in creationism is too stupid to be let out of the house without a keeper."
Witty perhaps but highly offensive.
SolidGoldBrass: " 'Don't be fucking ridiculous, I have better things to do with my time' is a perfectly adequate answer." (In response to being asked to go to church.)
A good example of the worst atheism has to offer humanity.
EllieArroway: "There are no good reasons to believe in any god, not a single one. And when you have no reason to believe that something is true then that belief becomes, by definition, unreasonable."
How closed mind of you. And you say you'd like to discuss my evidences for the existence God? I think I'll save my breath for someone who is interested in learning.
And finally, this astute observation by a poster who could have said it to many of the posters on the first thread:
LRDTheFeministDragon: "You are interested in insulting religious people and advancing no argument."
Good one, LRD.
Now, with that out of my system, on to my rules.
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10 RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
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Near the end of the first thread I was spending several hours per day on Mumsnet. I cannot continue at that pace so I will have to be much more selective about who I respond to and what questions I answer. Thus:
- No profanity in a message directed at me will be tolerated. Your entire post will go unresponded to and you will be immediately reported to the moderator.
- No name calling or personal attacks will be tolerated. Your entire post will go unresponded to and, depending upon the severity of the offense, you may be reported to the moderator.
- I will not respond to any allegations of lying or of misrepresentation on FaceBook. Suffice it to say that after someone visited my FaceBook page, they ran back to Mumsnet claiming I called you all a bunch of "insane mummies." I neither used the word "insane" nor mentioned that you were mothers - or even women for that matter.
I did say that your behaviour confirmed for me that people are "inherently evil." All Christians believe this so it should not be news to you.
- I will not respond to questions previously addressed on the first thread (like the speed of light issue).
- I cannot respond multiple times to the same questions when someone new joins the discussion. I will simply write something like "See the thread above."
- I will not, in general, respond to questions that I deem to be off the topic of young earth creationism. If you have an unrelated question, please feel free to send me a private message.
- If I provide evidence as requested and you refuse to read it, view it or listen to it, I will not respond to any further questions from you until you demonstrate that you have done so.
- If I find out that you are messaging my FaceBook friends to harass them (as someone has done to one of atheist friends) I will report you to the moderator and possibly to the police.
- Let's keep the discussion civil, rational and logical. Feel free to challenge my views and question my evidence. But please keep in mind my three primary assumptions:
- God exists.
- He has revealed information to us about His creation in the Bible.
- The Bible can be understood through a plain reading of the text.
10. I have taken into consideration the comments that some of you felt I was patronizing and rude. Once again, if I offended anyone I deeply apologize. I will try to do better on this thread (and have no doubt that I can if everyone adheres to the first 9 rules.)
I assure you I was not claiming persecution because of your "rational arguments" but because of your poor conduct. Be respectful. Mind your Ps and Qs and we won't have a problem. Let's have a productive discussion.
P.S. I tried to post this last night but Mumsnet was down.