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The Muslim Tearoom

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HardlyEverHoovers · 20/03/2013 15:25

Salaams/peace to all! I'm already missing our old thread, so taking the bull by the horns and opening our very own Muslim Tearoom, all welcome (non-Muslims too of course), to chat, share, ask questions etc etc. Imagine a cosy cafe with floor cushions, tea and coffee of all kinds, and lovely cakes! Please join me!

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crescentmoon · 05/10/2013 16:59

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fuzzywuzzy · 05/10/2013 21:11

I started working over a decade ago, at that point hijab was not an issue at all.

I think it depends completely on her, if she wants to go for a job and then put her hijab on when she starts that is going to land her with a whole heap of issues as well, if they really are against her wearing hijab they can still get rid of her within the trial period of her job or make life utterly hellish.

I have always been a great believer in starting as you mean to go on.

Does she want a job in an environment where she will be stigmatised for her religious beliefs?

I'd start asking for more detailed reasons as to why she didn't pass the interivew stage, I'd also look for jobs that aren't specifically grad jobs, I didn't bother when I started just got a position as an assistant and the training and promotions came to me themselves alhumdulillah, you need a lot of common sense and be very articulate and able to explain things in lay terms (well in my position you do).

Also from a religious point of view, if something passes you by it was never meant to be for you, whatever has been written for one will be given to us we merely choose the road to get to that destination, I always prefer giving up something for the love of Allah and when I have done, it has been returned to me a thousand fold in the most beautiful and unexpected way.

I regularly recite surah waqia at night for rizq and surah mulk when searching for a job.

It's up to her how she wants to go about it, but I think it will be far more difficult for her to begin wearing a scarf if she starts without it. Does she want to work in an environment that is hostile for a muslim woman to be in?

I suggest she do istikhara and seek guidance.

fuzzywuzzy · 05/10/2013 21:12

forgot to add, may Allah grant her a halal rizq and boundless barakah, may he encompass her in his mercy and shield her from hardships.

fuzzywuzzy · 05/10/2013 21:15

Regarding getting ready for school, I always get my girlks up an hour before we need to be out of the door, 45 minutes is never enough!

Go easy on yourself, you are pregnant it's going to add to the stress and exhaustion.

My girls go to an Islamic school, it is crazy over subscribed and the children are really high acheiving and very well behaved.
When we do it right, we do it beautifully mashallah.

crescentmoon · 06/10/2013 11:55

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defuse · 06/10/2013 22:09

I also think that wearing a hijab afterwards would be quite difficult. I still dont know how i got the courage to wear a hijab when i did, despite the fact that my workplace was really lovely! I had worked there for 5 years prior to wearing a scarf and by that time they had gotten to know someone who was 'very westernised' and therefore understood that the hijab was my choice and not enforced. My next workplace was a whole different story. I did get the job alhamdulillah wearing the scarf, but to this day my colleagues think its a shame that i cant show my 'lovely hair'. Lol!

I agree that getting a job wearing a hijab can be tricky depending on sector, but i also believe that it is much much harder for a fist length bearded muslim man to get a job. Smile

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fuzzywuzzy · 07/10/2013 05:09

I always tned to sned the money to wherever the most poor will benefit inshallah.

My mum asks for it to be done in India, but as far as I can see, the relatives who do the qurbani use the opportunity to show off how wealthy they are! Confused

This year almost my entire famiyl is fasting the first nine days of dhul Hijjah as is sunnah, apparently Saudi anounced dhul hijaah began yesterday, so we all fasted, then our masjid anounced it today!!! So we'll all fast ten days or till the day before Eid inshallah lol! Gotta love hilal fighting
I will inshallah make duas for your relative, tell her to be calm, nerves makes it worse. Remember Rizq is from Ar Razzaq.

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fuzzywuzzy · 07/10/2013 09:54

Eid ul Adha falls on the tenth day of dhul hajj, the hilal sighting has to still be done in order that we celebrate it on the correct day.

Saudi sighting guides the hajjis so they can complete the hajj rites during the correct time frame.

I reckon due to the Eidul fitr fiasco the world has come to its senses and we are using our own resources for hilal sighting, well that's the hope anyway!

Eid will be on the 16th I presume, unless our mashjids are hilal fighting (very likely), then Eid will be on 14,15,16 take your pick!

Good luck with the school day inshallah, this is the last week for us before half term, then we have the hugely long term till winter break subhanallah!

crescentmoon · 07/10/2013 19:29

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defuse · 07/10/2013 22:43

Cant stand citizen khan. It winds me up lol!

fuzzywuzzy · 08/10/2013 09:58

My friend finds it hilarious, I can watch it if I don't think about it too much.

It's daft, but inoffensive.

I do think the first episode with the mother sponging down the plastic on the settee was typical desi thing, I grew up thinking only my insane parents left the plastic covers on everything to keep them new! Needless to say I relish being able to rip plastic covers off everything

crescentmoon · 08/10/2013 10:23

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fuzzywuzzy · 08/10/2013 10:44

Get your kids to get heir school stuff together before bed. It is much calmer when you're not the only one doing everything!

My dad left the plastic on the bed mattresses! I'm not sure when/if they were ever removed!

crescentmoon · 10/10/2013 00:52

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fuzzywuzzy · 10/10/2013 10:42

I've had an unexpected insane outgoing this month so sadly I can't afford to do the Eid gift for this Eid.

Altho, for this Eid we always give meat anyway (wonders how that would go down with Royal Mail bahahahaha).

Alhumdulillah your mornings are calmer, I'm all for promoting personal responsibility in children from a young age, that way hopefully our children will not end up being the ones one reads about in the relationship board on MN inshallah!

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VikingVagine · 12/10/2013 09:03

Salaams (thanks autocorrect for changing that to salami Hmm ), I have a little request. I'm an Englsih teacher in France, many of my pupils are Muslim and will be off school on Tuesday (seems to be the agreed date here) and I would like to wish them a happy Eid at the end of lessons on Monday. Could someone give a nice sentence along the lines "goodbye, I hope you have a great time" and the equivalent of my "Merry Christmas" please?

VikingVagine · 12/10/2013 11:20

Forgot to add, they don't all speak exactly the same dialects obviously (some are Algerian, some Moroccan and a couple are Kabila), but some phrases are transversal, which is what I was hoping for!

VikingVagine · 12/10/2013 11:21

Oh dear, I meant their origins, not nationalities by the way.

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