Question for the Christians

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Just wonderin' 'n' musin' like. Do you ever get fed up or feel uncomfortable with the amount of blasphemy on the main boards? I've been noticing it more and more recently. I don't know why people think that this isn't offensive or unpleasant. I don't think they'd do it to other religions Makes me wonder why people are so vehemently anti Christian, then keep making these references. Also, can't understand why people can't equate a religious person's love for God to an atheist's love for their family and children. They wouldn't like to be insulted over their love for their dcs, but quite happily take the pee and dish it out to the faith people. Sometimes they're even hostile and aggressive about it. I find the boards quite slack liberally minded, but don't know why they don't extend this liberalism to everyone. If you truly choose equality, doesn't it mean that the equality should extend to those you don't agree with and even actively dislike?

I know we're supposed to take it as part of being a Christian, but was just wondering how others felt really.

I don't see any point in continuing this anyway. I started the thread as a genuine question for fellow Christians and now it's just descended into the usual unpleasant, polarised positions that always happens and it's just silly because we're never going to agree. None of this bears any relation to my original question and I can't even remember what it was I was asking anyway, so I've had to re-read my thread.

Let's just agree to disagree.

Add message | Report | Message poster seeker Wed 04-Apr-12 19:06:22
Still waiting for a single example of an answered prayer.

I gave you one at 15.29

Agreeing to disagree would make for a quiet MN though!

I appreciate that headinhands, but I started this thread to try and find out how the other Christians on the boards were feeling about stuff and, whilst I appreciate that anybody is welcome to post on any thread, I didn't intend for it to descend into this. I genuinally wanted to know what the others thought about some issues, but there's only a few here anyway.

Perhaps my original question wasn't phrased properly and has attracted undue attention. I think I was just putting my thoughts down.

Was I rude and unpleasant?

And what did I twist?

I do apologise if I was rude and unpleasant- I though I was just debating.

I thought I was just debating and got asked to 'go and take the piss' on Chat.

Yawn.here we go

Gang up and attack the lone Christian on the thread and when they point out how hostie you are and claim you were "only debating" and how really they were bullying you... Yeah, yeah some things never change.

Oh, ok. I'll leave now, as you want me to?

Bye, OP.

Did I miss something?

"Gang up and attack the lone Christian on the thread and when they point out how hostie you are and claim you were "only debating" and how really they were bullying you... Yeah, yeah some things never change."

I honestly don't understand. I wasn't ganging up. Or attacking. And I didn't accuse anyone of bullying. I was questioning and challenging- is that a problem?

Any time, seeker. I love a frank exchange of ideas. Makes a nice change from chicken pox. .

Anyway, where's the lone Christian? Which of us doesn't count?

Thank you, Mrs C! It does annoy me when Christians behave as if they should't be questioned or challenged, and any disagreement is an attack.

jjkm I think that would help some of us to hear your view. Often in these threads people ask for explanations, especially those of us who don't have faith, and then posters disappear claiming an attack on their religion.

I post on the religion forums (previously on here as vegimalstyle) in order to try and further my understanding, but sometimes I ask tricky/sensitive questions. I do not do this to stir up trouble, I do it because I genuinely do not understand something, often due to my lack of religion/faith/belief.

I understand people are defensive about their beliefs and may have been attacked about them, but please don't treat every person who asks something difficult as an enemy. Some of us want to understand.

Sillybeady

No one minds sensible, polite posters who can display more maturity than an angsty 15 year old, which from this post you seem to be.

But trust me, spend long enough on these boards and you will see quite a core of vile posters.luckily on a handful, but they are drawn to any religious thread. In these past few days alone the faithful have been compared to psychotics, are feeble minded, "bucket heads", weak and generally stupid who believe in "utter horse shit". Now, try and convince me if you like but those are personal attacks.

They are not healthy debates, just nasty and snidely attacks and utterly futile.

To be fair, I don't think any of those expressions have been used on this particular thread. As someone said earlier, its good to be challenged on your beliefs, to avoid glossing over the bits that aren't quite so easy to explain. If your faith is strong enough, it will always be worth defending.

Yes, to be fair no one has quite sunk to those depths. Yet. But I still see no real healthy or useful debate either.

Anyway, I'll leave you too it mrscave, best of luck to you.

Let the debating commence...

Ouch, what happened to this thread? You ok hidden?

Seeker I have loads of times given egs to you of prayers being answered, not always how I think or would want them to be. I do feel that however many examples I give, nothing will resonate if it is unquantifiable in any sense - so the one where a girl I know was healed dramatically of a back problem will not stand up to your scrutiny because it's simply hearsay or not scientifically verified. I know it happened, but I realise it is not enough. I also know very well it often doesn't happen, as in my own case.

I do think sometimes we witter on too much about these answered prayers in the small things, as in the driving test/healed leg (me) and need to look more outwards at the questions seeker posed, as in the children in Africa. As hidden said, Christians often do something about this, as do non Christians (all in God's image and all that) but you're right, there should be more, which is something brought home to me recently since dh has been working in Sudan.

I will try and answer. I definitely have a strong belief in christianity even though at times my personal circumstances seem bleak and I feel llike giving up.

I do believe that God is always there and wants to reach out to people.

I must admit it irks me when people refer to my imaginery friend.

It is difficult to get points across on a forum as we cannot see facial expressions etc.

Keep posting OP.

But the whole premise of the OP was pretty much 'aren't blasphemers awful, they have no respect - come and join me in slagging them off'. Was it not?

And implying that people deliberately only 'persecute' Christians when they wouldn't dream of persecuting other religions.

I don't think that the OP should be surprised if that attracts some comments from those with other viewpoints.

"Sillybeady

No one minds sensible, polite posters who can display more maturity than an angsty 15 year old, which from this post you seem to be.

But trust me, spend long enough on these boards and you will see quite a core of vile posters.luckily on a handful, but they are drawn to any religious thread. In these past few days alone the faithful have been compared to psychotics, are feeble minded, "bucket heads", weak and generally stupid who believe in "utter horse shit". Now, try and convince me if you like but those are personal attacks.

They are not healthy debates, just nasty and snidely attacks and utterly futile."

But this thread isn't like that. So why characterise it that way?