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Question for the Christians

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hiddenhome · 31/03/2012 17:35

Just wonderin' 'n' musin' like. Do you ever get fed up or feel uncomfortable with the amount of blasphemy on the main boards? I've been noticing it more and more recently. I don't know why people think that this isn't offensive or unpleasant. I don't think they'd do it to other religions Sad Makes me wonder why people are so vehemently anti Christian, then keep making these references. Also, can't understand why people can't equate a religious person's love for God to an atheist's love for their family and children. They wouldn't like to be insulted over their love for their dcs, but quite happily take the pee and dish it out to the faith people. Sometimes they're even hostile and aggressive about it. I find the boards quite slack liberally minded, but don't know why they don't extend this liberalism to everyone. If you truly choose equality, doesn't it mean that the equality should extend to those you don't agree with and even actively dislike?

I know we're supposed to take it as part of being a Christian, but was just wondering how others felt really.

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Starwisher · 05/04/2012 12:20

Seeker, I apologise for implying this thread was like that, but my point is a general basis a lot of religious threads do have those characteristics. Its often not healthy debate at all and it very unpleasant. If people stick around long enough or search old threads they will witness this for themselves.

On another note I have answered twice now about my answered prayer, just to let you know as you asking for examples of answered prayers.

ethelb · 05/04/2012 12:46

@seeker the problem is this thread was about blasphemy. You turned it into a self-fulfilling thread where you asked about answered prayers.

You were given several examples and then ignored them.

I don't think you were particuarly rude, but it is downright near impossible to ask a thrological question on MN without it being turned into a 'why do you practice religion at all' thread.

I don't see why those questions can't be asked in separate threads.

It is also v apparant to many people here that many of the most vocally rude individuals have little to no theological understanding, and refuse to see why this is a problem in a 'debate' or acknowledge that some people DO KNOW MORE THAN THEM about certain theological points or respect that their opinion as at least an informed one.

Can you see why people are annoyed?

Peachy · 05/04/2012 14:25

'ut hidden, you still have to accept that your god of love is watching 26000 children die everyday due to no fault of their own and while watching that horror passively

Quakers tend to come with a varying set of beleifs, ort sometimes even none.

Me, i think God gave us a planet able to sustain everyone in Sub Saharan Africa as well as those of us fortunate enough to be born elsewhere; it is OUR duty to ensure everyone is fed and clothed. We have suffient.

I am however not convinced my concept of God is as a person anyway, I do take a bit of Hinduism into my belief. I like their description of God as the absolute, or rather who God is NOT.

I can't expalin natural tragedies, I wish I could.

Peachy · 05/04/2012 14:27

Oh and if Kal was in dislike of christians she hid it well when I saw her Tuesday Wink

Starwisher · 05/04/2012 15:10

There are a lot of decent and respectable atheists on this board who I hold in high esteem

Unfortunately there are a few bad apples who have strange intentions and ruin things for everyone

To be fair Boone on this thread, minus a slight sarcasm has been too bad at all but I could see things starting to go off kilter

Starwisher · 05/04/2012 15:11

Boone?!No one

KalSkirata · 05/04/2012 15:51

I like Christians.
On toast Grin

Starwisher · 05/04/2012 15:54

???

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 05/04/2012 16:28

kal eats Christians for breakfast!

KalSkirata · 05/04/2012 16:33

Peachy showed up way too late for breakfast. And brought welshcakes with her. So I ate those instead.

As a religious person I really dont care if people blaspheme. It doesnt affect my faith. Nor does it affect God. There's much more important things to get offended abut.

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 05/04/2012 17:18

I love a good welsh cake! I don't live in wales anymore tho and miss the proper ones :(
Glanmors in Caerphilly has the best IMO.

tuffie · 05/04/2012 23:10

Just read through this thread. As a Christian, I used to get upset about comments from non believers. Now, however, it doesn t bother me much, as I guess I am now just more intrigued than anything as to why our faith is constantly questioned by non believers. Believers on the other hand do not constantly ask atheists to give 101 reasons why they don t believe. That is their decision and one I totally respect. I have come to realise that the important thing is that my faith makes me very happy and allows me to lead a very fulfilling life. If non believers find their happiness and fulfillment elsewhere, I would never dream of grilling them about whether the source of their happiness is rational, or ridicule them about it. Let's all accept that we're all different and be friends !!

seeker · 06/04/2012 06:00

I hesitate to answer as apparently this thread was only supposed to be about blasphemy, but as I've derailed it already ( sorry, I though I ws broadening it out!:() but here gores. I would agree with you 100% tuffie, if it wasn't for the fact that Christianity impinges on the ordinary life of th country so much. Live and let live is fine- but it has to work both ways!

CheerfulYank · 06/04/2012 06:04

Live and let live for sure!

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 06/04/2012 06:45

tuffie the question of faith is constantly raised by those with as well as those without. Otherwise there would be no missionaries, and no one would knock at doors asking if you'd heard the good news. Please don't fool yourself that it is one way traffic.

What about those who deny evolution and block it from being taught on some American schools?

What about people who hear about something amazing and say "how can you not believe in god in light of this miracle/prayer being answered"?

There are lots of examples of religion questioning lack of faith, especially in history, but that tends to get quite unpleasant (eg Galileo).

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 06/04/2012 06:47

Evening cheerful! What you drinking? Wine

seeker · 06/04/2012 06:51

And I've never heard an atheist say "You're a Christian- you do realise that meansyou and your children are going the Heaven for eternity, don't you?" Grin

CheerfulYank · 06/04/2012 07:00

wine wine wine! 'Tis delish.

I just feel, sort of, like I always sassy

I mean say

On these threads

"It matters not whether my neighbor says there are ninety gods or no God, it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket."

Thomas Jefferson said it first.

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 06/04/2012 07:32

It's a good quote and a fine attitude!

I don't like the intolerance aspect of the threads, but I do feel the need to point out when people are talking from their arse. So when someone says, Christians never tell atheists their beliefs are wrong...

I have Christian friends of various denominations and we talk about religion and faith and lack of faith on a regular basis. This never becomes a name calling exercise and no one takes the piss. We all respect each others beliefs.

People just need to remember to respect each other and their beliefs on here and not to feel threatened when someone questions an aspect of that belief. We only learn by questioning the world around us.

seeker · 06/04/2012 07:52

Then problem is that in this country, Christians do pick my pocket! And in other countries they do even more.

If faith was a private matter then it would be nobody's else's business-although it would be an interesting debate. But sadly it isn't a private matter.

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 06/04/2012 07:58

Faith is a private matter. It's up to you whether you reveal it to anyone. I think you mean religion. Religion is not a private matter but it's unlikely it ever will be.

headinhands · 06/04/2012 08:16

I find it difficult to understand Christians who maintain that their beliefs are no one else's business in light of the great commission that Jesus called them to in Matthew 28. Further more bible believing Christians surely have to believe that atheists are going to hell? Shouldn't Christians be busting their necks trying to save us. Any other position appears to belie an astounding lack of conviction in the most fundamental elements of your chosen faith.

seeker · 06/04/2012 08:22

I could deal with Christians trying to convert me. That's their job. What I can't deal with is Christians having an automatic input into policy making and legislature.

CheerfulYank · 06/04/2012 08:28

I don't agree with that either.

Church over here...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................State over here.

Convert anyone? Good God y'all, I'm Minnesotan! I apologize when someone bumps into me. I could never do something so ill-mannered! :o

SillyBeardyDaddyman · 06/04/2012 08:32

But seeker everyone deserves input and to have their voice heard. That's called democracy!