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Question for the Christians

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hiddenhome · 31/03/2012 17:35

Just wonderin' 'n' musin' like. Do you ever get fed up or feel uncomfortable with the amount of blasphemy on the main boards? I've been noticing it more and more recently. I don't know why people think that this isn't offensive or unpleasant. I don't think they'd do it to other religions Sad Makes me wonder why people are so vehemently anti Christian, then keep making these references. Also, can't understand why people can't equate a religious person's love for God to an atheist's love for their family and children. They wouldn't like to be insulted over their love for their dcs, but quite happily take the pee and dish it out to the faith people. Sometimes they're even hostile and aggressive about it. I find the boards quite slack liberally minded, but don't know why they don't extend this liberalism to everyone. If you truly choose equality, doesn't it mean that the equality should extend to those you don't agree with and even actively dislike?

I know we're supposed to take it as part of being a Christian, but was just wondering how others felt really.

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hiddenhome · 07/04/2012 23:40

Do you ever go away?

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seeker · 07/04/2012 23:46

So is all questioning banned, then?

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hiddenhome · 07/04/2012 23:53

No, you're just getting on my nerves. We've already established that this thread has been hijacked for no good reason. You're just waffling on.

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hiddenhome · 07/04/2012 23:55

You're not worth bothering with, so this thread can just slide as far as I'm concerned Hmm

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BonfireOfKleenex · 07/04/2012 23:58

I genuinely don't get it either Seeker. You have made no personal attacks that I can see Confused I guess it can only be explained by the fact that it is inherently one of those 'Down With This Sort Of Thing' threads which is not actually about debate, full stop.

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GrimmaTheNome · 07/04/2012 23:59

' If you truly choose equality, doesn't it mean that the equality should extend to those you don't agree with and even actively dislike? '

I'd have thought so.

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jjkm · 08/04/2012 01:05

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headinhands · 08/04/2012 10:05

Even if we could quash the expression of a difference of opinion on one thread on one website what about all the other debates happening all over the world at any time online, in real life? If we say, 'other discussions are not my business' then we can only infer it has been reduced to a personal level where we do not wish to hear other peoples opinions but in turn wish to express our opinion unchallenged? If we feel unable to allow all possible opinions to be voice we may well assume that entering or even reading such dialogue is probably not going to be productive and enlightening for us.

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seeker · 08/04/2012 10:30

Jjkm- if the is such a thread, will questioning be allowed?

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TheGreatestmadhairDayinHistory · 08/04/2012 14:27

seeker, I'm always happy to discuss things with you, anytime, you know that. I haven't seen anything too offensive here but I am not catholic so perhaps cannot see what hidden can, I'm sorry things have gone like this though as I love a good discussion thread. So please do question anytime, and hidden hope you are OK.


Happy Easter everyone. [busmile]

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GinPalace · 08/04/2012 14:30

I've never seen JC or JFC used in this site -

Hear it in real life plenty - it used to bother me but i've developed a deaf ear to it - I can't change it, so what else to do?

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jjkm · 08/04/2012 17:19

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PrincessPrecious · 15/04/2012 22:17

I try not to use blasphemy myself and I don't like it when others use it. I am actually a lot more ok with normal swear words that do not relate to religion. I agree with the OP that people generally feel it is more Ok to mock Christianity in a way that they would never do with another faith. I think it is because Christians put up with it wheras Muslims for example would be very angry and cause a fuss. I am Christian (Catholic) and recently heard that some Muslims in France were demontrating about a play depicting Jesus Christ in a blasphemous way.....Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet though they don't believe he is the Son of God as christians do. i asked myself....why were there not more Christians demonstrating!!

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GrimmaTheNome · 17/04/2012 15:19

Did anyone query the OPs original assertion that there's a lot of blasphemy on MN? Swearing to be sure...but at this point on a thread of favourite swears, there's a lot of physical swearwords but not one single blasphemy (obviously I can't tell what else will appear there).

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Abra1d · 29/01/2013 17:20

There are several examples of (am posting on this old thread rather than start another one). Here's one from today:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1671246-Oh-My-Fucking-God-Im-so-WOUND-UP-BY-THICK-STUPID-PEOPLE

'Oh my God' doesn't particularly bother me, but the insertion of 'fucking' does make it seem rather different.

Mumsnet doesn't delete for blasphemy.

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abbeynationall · 03/02/2013 14:45

Oh yes it really bothers me like someone fretting over their kids being taught bible stories yet being very receptive to Harry potter , halloween, aliens and other scary things.

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abbeynationall · 03/02/2013 16:01

JJKM
"I believe an agnostic/atheist who does good will eventually be rewarded for that, and above a Christian that fails to do good. Ultimately, everything is fair in the next life".
I don't think there is a way for atheists and gnostics to get to heaven but for believing in Jesus- Not by good deeds not by anything. Logically speaking wouldn't you be forcing an atheist to go to heaven by supposing that their good deeds would get them to heaven?

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jjkm · 06/02/2013 10:35

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adkinsfamily · 07/02/2013 15:20

the bible belief is prejudice to gay marriage and abortion, but yet the bible is for peace and unity. I would have to say that the christian belief or bible belief doesn't practice what it preaches.
the bible is hypicritical to the point of saying war brings peace yet peace is what we all preach while we allow our countries to go to war!

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RoomForALittleOne · 08/02/2013 20:32

As for your original question, yes the blasphemy annoys me. And the fact that Christian's aren't allowed a view on homosexuality but everyone is allowed a view on Christianity makes me Hmm But not as Hmm as the fact that no-one seems to have noticed that Muslims are even more strict with their views about homosexuality but no-one says anything about that. In fact, I don't think I've seen Muslims being put down for their views, just an acceptance that they have a different view. Clearly Christians aren't allowed their own views or beliefs though.

But does any of this really get to me? No! It's just part of life as a Christian.

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headinhands · 08/02/2013 21:13

room I think the reason it seems people pull up Christianity more than Islam is largely to do with statistics i.e. most people on MN are probably white Europeans and more likely to have Christianity as the religion they were most exposed to. Clearly MN is a diverse community but the largest group is as above.

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RoomForALittleOne · 08/02/2013 21:20

I don't just mean on MN though. How many headlines/news items have there been about 'the church' being against gay marriage? Loads! How many have there been about Islam's opposition to it? I don't think I've found one. I looked around for some because I wondered what their viewpoint was but didn't find any at the time.

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headinhands · 08/02/2013 21:52

Okay add to that the fact that the CofE seeks to actively limit the rights of gay couples. In the UK the CofE have seats in government, hence get to have a say on potential new legislation just because of their religion. That has a lot to do with the flack it gets re gay rights.

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cjel · 08/02/2013 21:53

I to get fed up with all the crap about me being against some people because I don't think that marriage is possible between two people of the same sex, or support people who don't want a same sex couple sharing a bed in their house.I know people who don't let unmarried people of whatever sex share a bed under their roofs, If we were truly an inclusive society as everyone proclaims we would allow people ALL people the right to their views. I am not anti gay or want to spoil their lives but they won't allow me my views either. It should work both ways and doesn't any more. As for being upset about blaspheming I don't think its necessary to express a view,it doesn't upset me as my god is big enough to cope with it but It is true that in general allah and other gods don't get the same disrespect.

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headinhands · 08/02/2013 21:57

You notice the disrespect of your god because you're a Christian. And because you're in the UK. Confirmation bias.

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