Canticles, charisma and chat (Religion thread number 2)

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the first one is nearly full.

Anyone welcome, it's basically a "what happened in church/spiritual life/anything else you want to chat about that's vaguely related (or not) to churchy stuff.

Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to mourn the passing of this thread, cruelly taken from us before its time...

noooooo!

revive revive!!!!!

we've got so much to talk about!!

OK, it seems that the rumours of its death have been gravely exaggerated :o

Have I mentioned we've got the new Diocesan bishop coming on Sunday? And the Suffragan on Easter Sunday? Typical, don't see once for years and 2 come along at once :o

phew!

i thought my world was ending....

blimey!
we had the bishop visit us twice last year - it was odd, cos he normally only does one a year. but he's new, so...
and apparently he likes us.

what's a Suffragan?

Do you still have to do the Gloria? Or have you made him see High Church sense?

I never realies it was a Bad Thing until I moved to my current church!
My original church did everything every week (i'm sure they did!, although I'd be forgiven for not remembering) and they were proper "oh yes, we're high, honest". and you had to kneel in the Creed.

It wasn't the bishop wanting to the the Gloria, it was the church warden not understanding such things!

A suffragan bishop is an assistant bishop, but not to be confused with a flying bishop, who are also assistant bishops, but I don't think we have any of them left anymore, because they've all flown to Rome?

fair enough, if it was the churchwarden.

Is he the one that holds the shepherd's hook then?

Kneel in the creed?

Me ole knees wouldn't take that. I fear I am getting my mum's arthritis - they seize up when I kneel for communion now, couldn't unlock them the other day. Feel oooolllldddd.

Nah nickel you coudln't kill off this thread. We'd miss our GK daily fixes too much. And our arguments about wafers and glorias and suffragans and such.

not all the way through.
you bow your head when you say "jesus christ", and you kneel when you say "came down from heavenand was incarnate by the holy ghost of the virgin mary"
i thin kthe kneel is because you're kneeling for Mary, but it takes that long to get down there.
It's not the same when you bow your head on that bit, because it looks like you're bowing your head on the wrong bit iyswim

I seek sanctuary, from a pre-teen DD who is hormonal, and needs to make an aeroplane that looks like a space shuttle and flies using shaken up coke bottles, and it needs to be be done by tomorrow. And she's only just told me. Apparently elastic band power isn't good enough either.

(Lord have mercy on me)

And what, pray is that of your business? If dd has to do homework, dd does homework or else takes the consequences from her teacher.
The excuse:"My mother wouldn't help me..." is not going to cut much ice at school.
Never get involved in your children's homework, it's their business.
You keep to your sanctuary.

Ooh Mary - refuge for all here. Have to say I'm not looking forward to the homework stage...

The Creed - we are encouraged to bow during this bit "...by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man."

Interesting that all our parishes seem to have very similar issues. We've been trying to build a new parish centre for about 10yrs but there are still no approved plans! That may change in the next few weeks though as there are two options with the Bishop. The preferred option is to build one adjoining the Church.

Our RCIA meeting last night focussed on the topic of "The Temple". Not maybe one of the more essential topics but very interesting and somehow makes everything seem more tangible. One of our team members brough photos that she had blown up from her trip about 5yrs ago.
We also looked at various references to The Temple from the Bible, including the 3 occassions Jesus is recorded as having been but also others, such as:
Ephesians 2:21-22 "In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit"
1 Corinthians 3:17 "If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple."
1 Corinthians 3:9-11 "For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building. According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ"

Apologies for the variety of translations used, I was just c&p from the internet for speed!

We're building a community centre near to our church - work starts in two weeks when we've got a vounteer team coming from the UK - no need for faculties here! Or planning permission, or building regs .

The school seem to have this idea that its good for kids to work with their parents on projects, and it seems sets challenges that encourages this. Personally I think if they are going to do this, they should set out clearly what they expect of the parent in these circumstances, and not leave it up to the child!

We've scrapped the coke bottle idea, it looks more like concorde-like than space shuttle, and we now have to find some way of getting it to fly. It has a "tail pipe", as DD has done a smaller one of these before, powered by straw, and I suggested we could use a bicycle pump to get it to fly - unfortunately that didn't work... but she can perhaps work on it today at school... not all of them are being demonstrated today it seems...

Emails are flying around re: church. Things seem to be happening rather quickly!

Creed "and was made man" is definitely included - I didn't want to keep going in case i got a "you don't know what you're talking about"!
noone does any of that in my church - I still bow, because I'm old-skool, but only the "Anglo-catholics" (god, i hate that description!) do the bowing and the crossing and the genuflex. (not a genuflex in the creed, but at the altar after receiving communion, although, interestingly, most people at my church do a bow or a nod or a genuflex when they pass the altar, or finish their reading etc. I was never taught that bit, so I've never done it, and when I tried, it felt odd )

Mary that's awful! I'm a firm believer that children should take responsibility for their own work, and if it's something that needs more than one person, then it should be a team made up of pupils that do it, not a child/parent team!
Like you've not got enough to do!

Morning all

I have a lady from the health authority coming to visit this morning to assess me for a pilot programme for gym membership for those with COPD and other lung diseases, she says I can definitely have it, just have to fill in forms for an hour etc, really pleased, hopefully it will help a bit.

Hope everyone doing OK, Mary how did the appt go?

that's brilliant news mhd

Morning!

MHD - that's great! Hope it's not tooooo much paperwork!

How's everyone else today? I'm just waiting for my car to be serviced and then I need to go to Kwikfit and get my spare tyre sorted. I had a puncture on the way home from work yesterday which the AA sorted. They were really quick to get to me (20 mins) which was great as I still had a 90min drive home and to get DS from nursery!

feeling quite bright today, actually - saw my old landlord in town, and he said that the gardener (who had taken over the old chicken run/mansion that we set up at our old house) has got some new chickens and is buying chicken mags and has gone mad on hen-keeping!
He used to spend a lot of time just looking at our hens, and kept giving them cabbages and stuff! and he used to say "oh, I really want chickens" so it was like a dream come true when we moved out!

blimey, it's like an abandoned church in here!
where is everyone?

helloooo! ello elloelooooellooooooo

(that was an echo)