Canticles, charisma and chat (Religion thread number 2)

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the first one is nearly full.

Anyone welcome, it's basically a "what happened in church/spiritual life/anything else you want to chat about that's vaguely related (or not) to churchy stuff.

Nickel - I think the grass always seems greener on the other side. When I read that you had a bookshop I thought that sounded like a lovely job and was slightly envious. Like you I did a vocational degree and have now joined the rat race.

Mary - I love those alternative lyrics. Will have to hold myself from singing "Bing, bingy bong" at the appropriate time next time we sing that song.

I got embroiled in a veeerrrrrrry long thread about Rob Bell and heresy on that SOF website, thanks Mary

I like and rate Rob Bell myself...read the book before condemning him as the antichrist for goodness sake!!!

Hmmm. Anyway. Agreed, no Gloria in Lent indeedy.

I'll have to go look MHD, see if I can spot you on there! Have you spotted me yet? Not that I've been posting much lately...

Comments like "the grass is always greener" has given me an ear worm "there is a green hill far away". Which then reminds me as a child, being told to go sing on it! :o

Ooh haven't posted on it Mary, just read, too many scary people

I've got childhood memories of that hymn too. My piano teacher taught me various hymns and I had to sing and play them for him. I liked ones that were upbeat such as Onward Christian Soldiers (sorry, Pilgrims) but took a real dislike to the tune for There Was A Green Hill and it seemed as though I had to play it for months.

I like the SOF website too but haven't posted either.

I agree, parts of it are scary, but at least there are defined areas of scariness (like Hell or maybe Ecclesiantics). Heaven, All Saints and the Circus are safe! MN can also be scary, but we still post here!

yes, Mary, you don't sing the Gloria during lent or advent - our horrible vicar tried that on us once, and we went ahead and sang the kyries like we should.
he looked a bit shocked.

jaffa- I do love my bookshop, and I love working for myself, but I just sometimes feel a bit sad that I haven't continued with materials (apart from in my shop name, of course!)

oh I we forget the Kyries a few years ago one Lent and no-one mentioned it so just cut the Gloria

ah.
we do the Kyries at the same time as the Gloria would have been, so we can't forget them.
in the old days (in my original church) the Kyries were at the beginning of the service, so we had both.

We do the Kyrie in place of the Gloria too.

Afternoon all. dh's day off so off out to lunch in a min, dd back at school :)

Only just heard about the earthquake and tsunami in Japan :( Praying for all.

hoep she's feeling better. :)

We do the Kyrie anyway, but usually we do both. Family service this Sunday, so I will be cantor for the visiting priest. Last time he asked me to read the gospel as well, so I'd better be prepared for that (AND not do Alleluia!)

why not do alleluia?

normally, we just say "lord have mercy" as a response to something early on, and that's it for Kyries.

don't know why... St Michael's tradition i suppose....

Those Sam Hutton books - DS1 discovered one of the series on the book shelf )2nd hand books donated to church for them to sell) on Sunday night. Was GLUED to it, and begged me to buy if for him (all 3 DS's regularly read books from there and never ask for them)

So I bought it for him and he absolutely loves it.

i can get Full Throttle
that' the only one that my distributor has, and it looks like the others aren't available.

i remember that series - they were quite popular when they were first out.

hah - do you know what............Full Throttle was the one that DS got on Sunday - isn't that so typical.

There's some available on Amazon so will them from there probably - just thought (as we don't have an independent bookshop in town) I'd try and support a local bookshop first

No Alleluias in Lent either - not in hymns either. Replace Alleluia with "Praise to you O Christ, King of Eternal Glory"

oh I know what I didn't mention - last Month DS2's infant school has their Ofsted - on Tuesday coming up they have their "section 48 inspection" from the diocese.

Not only have I been asked to be one of the parents that will talk to the inspector about the "church school" aspect, but we have our Leapfrog Assembly on Tuesday as well earlier in the day and they'll be watching that - eek.

And an intereting situation has arisen which I'm hoping the infant/junior (not sure which school will have the final say) will support me with.

The infant school formed a choir just before Christmas, unfortunately the TA that started it has now left. However, her mother, who is the music teacher at the Junior school (where pupils from the infants are guaranteed a place if they want it) has managed to get a "joint" choir idea put forward.

It will involve the infant school choir members being walked up to the Junior school on a Monday afternoon, and joining with the Junior school choir - and we're expected to pick them up at 4.15 when they finish.

Now - DS1 currently walks DS2 to school, and then carries onto school up the road on his own, and always walks back on his own.

DS2 wants to join the combined choir - but wants to walk down with DS1 afterwards. I have NO issue with this at all. It's an added 2 minutes walking time - and the extra road to cross - although "busier" is also the only one with a proper pedestrian crossing. Come September when he goes up to the Juniors they'll be walking home together every day. DS1 will NOT be happy about having to walk home with me after choir (he's been "going solo" since YR3!).

So - I'm going to have to approach the school(s) and ask if they will allow DS2 to leave choir with DS1.........

Mary that's awful! how can you not have Hallelujahs

B - sod's law, eh? I will allow you to look on that site for ones you can't get hold of normally.

sounds like a good plan, the choir thing.

and you've got to big it up to DS1 - "oh, you're so grown up and have such a lot of responsibility"

nickel, I would say how CAN you have Alleluias! :o

See Note 5 in the Holy Communion book:

Acclamations, which may include congregational response (such as ?The Lord is here: his Spirit is with us? and ?Christ is risen: he is risen indeed?) may be used at appropriate points in the service (with ?Alleluia? except in Lent).