Returning dog to the breeder

[peetieswie]

I bought a dog for £1000 from a breeder. They'd kept him to show and stud and told me he was well socalised, crate trained, house trained, good with kids.

I really tried for two months. From the beginning he couldn't walk past a dog without lunging and if he ever met one closely he'd attack the neck. I tried walking him in dog parks and with friends dogs. He managed to walk short distances with my elderly dog when walked by two separate people and kept seperate but as soon as we'd stop or sit for a drink or something he'd be lunging again.

He would be let out to toilet and come back in and wee on the sofa or pile of washing. If I went out with him he'd be more reliable so this wasn't a huge issue but was harder than I expected. If I put him in a crate and go into the room next door he'd immediately start to howl.

My guess is he'd been in a kennel environment and not ever socalised in a home environment or with other dogs other than at the kennel. I also wonder why they wanted to sell him. I'm giving him back having not been neutered, not been given a haircut, and I've taught him to sit, stay, turn around, give paw (he knew no commands which surprised me if he's used for shows)

Should I expect any money back? They seem to think I'm just naive and couldn't cope but I'm an experienced dog owner, I just don't have the time and energy to put into a reactive dog when I wasn't made aware that's what I was getting. I feel sad for him as we had some lovely times but it has put me off an adult dog now and we will be looking to get a puppy in a year or two instead.

Agree, I’ve fostered over 40 rescue dogs and within a month they had got the hand of most things, sure some of them were a little timid in certain situations but none of the were trying to chomp on other dogs or people.
We fostered ex breeders that had never been walked before, puppies and dogs handed in by families.
The ex breeders were some of the most shut down and took longer however some ex breeding to arrived happy, waggy, loving their new found life.
The rescues we fostered for all had adoption fees between £300-£550. Of the 4 dogs we have now only one was brought by us from a puppy from a reputable breeder and cost us £800 from health tested parents, he had been bred because they had wanted to continue the lime, kept one and sold the others.
I have another that had moved homes 4 times by the times she was a year old, and 2 ex breeding dogs and within a month of them all arriving they were settled, happy with only minor things to work on.

I’d take him back in those circumstances, you can ask for the money back but I’ll be surprised if they give it to you.

Exactly

You can go buy him if you want. I'll send you the details. Then you rehome him to someone suitable? Yes? No I thought not.

Just to update, the breeder gave me a full refund. However we have thought about buying him back and rehoming him to someone ourselves. But it is a lot of money and responsibility if it doesn't work out. I'm happier to send any of the angry commenters the details so they can go rehome him themselves but something tells me they won't bother, they just want to send me a horrid comment.

No, don't buy him back. It wouldn't be good for you or him.

Be careful of reading too much into that one interaction when you dropped him back. He sounds as if he has a pretty anxious temperament to begin with, and he'd had some pretty big changes. Everyone always wants to believe that a dog has been mistreated, but plain old anxiety is far more common.

Nonsense. How long have you been breeding and training dogs for?

Buyers of adult dogs are extra well vetted, it's true. Sometimes the price is dropped in special circumstances, but giving away a dog creates too many risks for the dog. Asking a fair price is actually in the dog's best interest.

I feel for you op. Crappy situation all round and not an easy decision. I think I would hold off on any pets for five years or so.

Gosh you've had a hard time on here OP, but i'm not surprised. A lot of people post a lot of emotive crap when it comes to dogs. All this you should never own a dog again and fling yourself into the fires of hell shite. It's quite unhinged.

You meant no harm and did your best, which was a better best than many others do when it comes to buying a pet. You tried to love the dog and give him a good home but it's not worked out and you have returned him to the breeder which is not only the accepted best thing to do but is what they asked you to do!

They've refunded, so i don't think they're doing a scam as such. Maybe they'll work on his behaviour or maybe not. You can't police what happens next.

Glad you put your kids first and i hope you get the family pet you want in the near future 💐

show Breeders do not just give dogs away on Facebook or something you know 😂

they are passed on to homes through people they know, I got a 18 month old pointer a couple of years ago, no use for the show ring at top level as her tail carriage wasn’t quite correct , not my breed I’m involved with, but I got her through my ring craft from a girl within the breed recommending me,

I’m sorry you can say what you want but ethical show breeders do not sell older dogs.

Maybe the ones you know do but I’d question their morals just like the person who sold this dog.

OP demand your money back people like this are just greeders.

Great. You made the right decision. There’s a lot of dog-wackos on here who like to give people a hard time but you were sold a dog that wasn’t what they said it was.Glad it’s been resolved.

So you know this from one dog? One breed?

Look, this might have been true twenty years ago. With the explosion of "designer" crossbreeds, and especially since covid, things have changed.

People just don't take things as seriously if you don't charge for them, no matter how well you select prospective owners. I just can't know everything about a person, no matter how much screening I do.

If it's a dog that I've put thousands of hours of work (and thousands and thousands of pounds) into, then a sale price is never going to even scratch the surface of covering that. I want to do the very best I can by that dog, however, and if a prospective owner isn't prepared to pay a purchase price, how can I trust that they will pay for the care of the dog?

You made the right decision for your family OP and you’d never have been in this position in the first place if the breeder had been honest from the outset. I think it’s best that you just move on from this now, don’t go back. Ignore those on here having a moan. They’re not the ones trying to live with the dog and, like you said, I highly doubt they’d want to take him on. Good luck to them if they do.

Where are you? It maybe too soon for my husband as we lost ours two weeks ago. But you never know. I would never. rehome a dog . So you thought wrong.

Not true.