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Petition for welby to resign

113 replies

Chan9eusername · 11/11/2024 18:04

Is here.

https://www.change.org/p/a-call-for-justin-welby-to-resign

The media are being quite quiet about this petition (someone's palm has probably been greased).

Sign the Petition

A call for Justin Welby to resign.

https://www.change.org/p/a-call-for-justin-welby-to-resign

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CaptainMyCaptain · 12/11/2024 11:09

ADifferentPathAuDHD · 12/11/2024 09:49

I won't be back to my local CofE church until he's gone. I won't be any part of a church that is OK with child abuse coverups.

There are other priests and bishops calling for his resignation you don't need to boycott the whole C of E.

MsChelle · 12/11/2024 12:56

Will he not be facing criminal charges, if he was complicit in the abuse of children? I don't think he should be allowed to simply resign, he should be sacked and investigated by the police.

LadyDanburysHat · 12/11/2024 13:07

I have signed, I find it abhorrent that he thinks he can get away with not resigning.

OneDandyPoet · 12/11/2024 13:09

He probably believes he is above any kind of scrutiny.

AlohaRose · 12/11/2024 14:19

And he's gone thank goodness.

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 14:23

Thank goodness this "holy" man has gone. I hope his weakness in this awful case haunts him. There is NO defence for him absolutely none. No apology is worth listening to. He failed so many more boys that were victim to the paedophile.
He is up there with the worst of humanity.

MabelMoo23 · 12/11/2024 14:31

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 10:29

Every church goer and decent person should think like you. Unfortunately that's not the case.
All over morning TV today. He's cleared his diary for today. Let's hope this is a sign he's going. He has no morals and quite obviously doesn't understand what safeguarding actually means.
He knew and did nothing. He's complicit in the crimes of this paedophile. He allowed it to continue.

Absolutely this. Safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility and if you don’t speak up, then you are complicit.
there is NO way he could’ve stayed.

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:33

Well, I hope that everyone is happy now that Justin Welby has resigned. I'm not a Christian but the Church has lost a great leader and a good man. When will this child abuse witchhunt ever stop? By all means punish the perpetrators but the obsession with hounding anyone remotely connected is getting a bit much.

We had a case in our local community where an individual claimed that he had been abused as a child by someone now dead and accused all sorts of people of covering up. In the end people had to engage solicitors to tell him to desist as he had no proof that these people were ever involved. it caused a great deal of upset to all concerned.

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:35

Chan9eusername · 11/11/2024 18:04

Is here.

https://www.change.org/p/a-call-for-justin-welby-to-resign

The media are being quite quiet about this petition (someone's palm has probably been greased).

You've got proof of this, have you? If not, you are making totally unfounded allegations.

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:37

ADifferentPathAuDHD · 12/11/2024 09:49

I won't be back to my local CofE church until he's gone. I won't be any part of a church that is OK with child abuse coverups.

I'm sure that they will be able to manage without you. Don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 14:39

@2010Aussie
He is no great leader or good man. He was complicit in CSA he knew and said nothing, did nothing.
Are you denying that? Even he admitted to that.
This is indefensible.

Hoardasurass · 12/11/2024 14:41

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:33

Well, I hope that everyone is happy now that Justin Welby has resigned. I'm not a Christian but the Church has lost a great leader and a good man. When will this child abuse witchhunt ever stop? By all means punish the perpetrators but the obsession with hounding anyone remotely connected is getting a bit much.

We had a case in our local community where an individual claimed that he had been abused as a child by someone now dead and accused all sorts of people of covering up. In the end people had to engage solicitors to tell him to desist as he had no proof that these people were ever involved. it caused a great deal of upset to all concerned.

He was not a "great leader" nor a "good man" he covered up child sexual abuse and allowed a prolific pedophile to continue abusing boys for years, that makes him a co-conspirator in any and all abuse that was perpetrated after 2013. So no not a witch hunt but an evil man receiving the long delayed consequences of his actions and inactions

OneDandyPoet · 12/11/2024 14:43

Good. And I am assuming that automatically means that he will no longer be a member of the House of Lords. They should also revoke the membership of all the other bishops in there. They shouldn’t be part of the legislature in any shape or form.

BustingBaoBun · 12/11/2024 14:43

Well, I hope that everyone is happy now that Justin Welby has resigned. I'm not a Christian but the Church has lost a great leader and a good man. When will this child abuse witchhunt ever stop? By all means punish the perpetrators but the obsession with hounding anyone remotely connected is getting a bit much

Are you having a laugh?

Do you have any idea what sexual abuse does to a person? Do you realise that Smyth abused hundreds of boys and Justin Welby KNEW and did nothing about it. Thank god he has gone. He is not a good man whatever you say. You talk of one person making up sexual abuse. This was hundreds of young boys whose lives have been damaged forever.

No wonder I am not religious.

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:49

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 14:39

@2010Aussie
He is no great leader or good man. He was complicit in CSA he knew and said nothing, did nothing.
Are you denying that? Even he admitted to that.
This is indefensible.

The matter was reported to the police in 2013 - five years before Smyth died - and nothing appears to have happened. I'm not sure what else Justin Welby was expected to do - investigate it himself? Once it's handed over to the police, it's up to them to pursue prosecutions.

You are basing your opinion on his leadership on this one case. Welby has done much good in the Church.

helibirdcomp · 12/11/2024 14:51

He's resigned - end of thread.

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:51

OneDandyPoet · 12/11/2024 14:43

Good. And I am assuming that automatically means that he will no longer be a member of the House of Lords. They should also revoke the membership of all the other bishops in there. They shouldn’t be part of the legislature in any shape or form.

What have you got against bishops? At least they are in their jobs on merit. How do you feel about inherited seats in the Lords?

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:53

BustingBaoBun · 12/11/2024 14:43

Well, I hope that everyone is happy now that Justin Welby has resigned. I'm not a Christian but the Church has lost a great leader and a good man. When will this child abuse witchhunt ever stop? By all means punish the perpetrators but the obsession with hounding anyone remotely connected is getting a bit much

Are you having a laugh?

Do you have any idea what sexual abuse does to a person? Do you realise that Smyth abused hundreds of boys and Justin Welby KNEW and did nothing about it. Thank god he has gone. He is not a good man whatever you say. You talk of one person making up sexual abuse. This was hundreds of young boys whose lives have been damaged forever.

No wonder I am not religious.

The matter was reported to the police in 2013 five years before Smyth died. What else was Welby supposed to do? It's up to the police to prosecute once they have the facts.

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 14:55

Welby has done much good in the church
That has to be the sickest thing I have read today. You just aren't getting it are you @2010Aussie

Courgettesandonions · 12/11/2024 14:55

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:53

The matter was reported to the police in 2013 five years before Smyth died. What else was Welby supposed to do? It's up to the police to prosecute once they have the facts.

Yes I'm confused about this. I thought he knew about it but didn't inform the police, but sounds like he was told about it and policed were informed at the same time. What did he do wrong? Is it that he should have followed up with the police to make sure they were doing their job?

OneDandyPoet · 12/11/2024 14:57

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:51

What have you got against bishops? At least they are in their jobs on merit. How do you feel about inherited seats in the Lords?

On merit? What merit are you taking about? In 2024 there absolutely should not be inherited life time peerages, it’s archaic, very undemocratic and outdated. In the same way, there she be a complete separation of state and church.

BustingBaoBun · 12/11/2024 14:59

No bishops. No inherited seats in the Lords.

What should Welby have done in 2013? A lot more than he did. Welby is actually on record as saying he should have pursued it more and he failed. He said that himself. He hoped it would go away and the survivors would give up. I have read some statements by those abused. Have you? If you had empathy in your heart @2010Aussie I really do not think you would be sticking up for Welby.

The CofE itself has said that there is evidence of concealment, cover ups and efforts to contain the reputational damage to the Church. Yet you lament the loss of a good man.

Do you have any sympathy with the victims? Not all are alive of course some having committed suicide. Yet your thoughts are with Welby. Ironic.

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:59

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 14:55

Welby has done much good in the church
That has to be the sickest thing I have read today. You just aren't getting it are you @2010Aussie

Yes. I am 'getting it'. Welby HAS done a lot of good in the Church. You are judging him on this one case. The many other things that he has done in his time which has brought the Church together and has made a lot of progress will all be forgotten.

WinterCrow · 12/11/2024 15:00

He's resigned.

BustingBaoBun · 12/11/2024 15:01

2010Aussie · 12/11/2024 14:59

Yes. I am 'getting it'. Welby HAS done a lot of good in the Church. You are judging him on this one case. The many other things that he has done in his time which has brought the Church together and has made a lot of progress will all be forgotten.

Good He worked hard at covering up the abuse of hundreds of young boys and young men whose lives have been hell fighting for acknowledgement from the Church. It's not 'one case* it's hundreds of boys.

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