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Why are more people putting spaces before punctuation when typing?

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dmell13 · 29/07/2026 10:40

Has anyone else seen a lot of people's typing/texting like this with a space before the punctuation? I'm seeing it more and more and don't know where its come from?

e.g. Ok , i'll meet you in town on Saturday . 😧
Why ?

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dudsville · 30/07/2026 12:30

BIWI · 30/07/2026 11:26

But you'd never see that in any printed material - newspaper, magazine, book or online article. Therefore if can't be right! It suggests an affectation (or ignorance?) on behalf of that person.

You're right, thanks for that. I think it could well be an affectation!

Namechange26andabit · 30/07/2026 12:38

I’ve seen it mostly with Eastern Europeans at work, so usually a second language. I wonder if it’s how they are taught, or maybe they are told the comma is a pause and so add a space?

MargaretMeldrew · 30/07/2026 12:45

Tryingtokeepgoing · 30/07/2026 11:18

Haha, mea culpa. Though, to be fair, since this area of Mumsnet is clealy titled Pedants' corner with a lower case 'c', straight back at you ;)

You got me!

But ‘clealy’? OK, I’m going to stop now😅😅

orangehandles · 30/07/2026 12:46

As with many things ending up in Pedants' Corner, it's probably because they are either ignorant, their device does it and they don't notice, or that they are just plain stupid.

PeterRabbitsWhiskers · 30/07/2026 12:56

emmadoher · 30/07/2026 11:21

So each word at the end of every sentence, is selected from autocomplete?

I assume so, but cannot answer for everyone. On my phone, it seems to do it more if I am putting a question mark or exclamation mark, but removes the space when I use a full stop. As someone else said, it is poor programming.

BrickBiscuit · 30/07/2026 14:47

Yourethebeerthief · 30/07/2026 10:19

Corner or corner? 😂 Bonkers.

Indeed - 'Pedants' corner' but 'Climate Change' (for example). Bonkers!

Lichenrose · 31/07/2026 20:36

Badbadbunny · 30/07/2026 10:14

I'm not so sure it's all down to auto correct. It has been a pet peeve of mine for years, if not decades. Back before auto-correct, people used to do it when using typewriters and then word processors in the 80s and 90s. I think some people just assume there has to be a space. Proper touch typists never did it as they were taught not to, but it was certainly very common amongst people who typed (typewriters or word processors) on an occasional/ad hoc basis.

I've also seen a fair few people write hand written letters and leave a space before punctuation, but it's not as obvious with hand-writing.

I think, to some extent, it shows who are avid readers and who aren't, as if you read a lot, you'll just "see" that there's no space before punctuation, whether books, newspapers, or whatever, so instinctively you won't put spaces in when you're writing.

Edited

Older books in English sometimes have spaces before question marks and exclamation marks.

Typesetting conventions have changed over the years so you don’t see these gaps in well-edited work now, but they were certainly used in the past, to some extent at least.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 31/07/2026 20:38

Goinggonegone · 29/07/2026 20:41

Possessive pronoun before the gerund. 😊
My Mother was an English teacher, and used to call this out so many times.

Ha!
I expect very few people know what the gerund is.

RosieHosie · 31/07/2026 20:50

OwMyBackandKneesAndHips · 30/07/2026 10:21

My phone does crazy shit when I'm typing, Ive stopped worrying g about it.

My phone does the above with the extra g too!

RosieHosie · 31/07/2026 20:51

BrickBiscuit · 29/07/2026 19:30

Yes, it's probably because of this lack of correct programming in autocorrect. How hard is 'maybe put in a space to be helpful, but take it out again if the next character is punctuation?' But autocorrect, like much of IT, is shit. Imagine if I made a sale at work, but missed off the VAT? How shit would that be? Yet its programmers failed to configure autocorrect so it can tell the difference between a word space and the end of a sentence. If I was that shit at my job, I'd get fired.

Mine sometimes does take out the space, but not always.

VC10vTristar · 31/07/2026 20:51

If I hit the space button twice - my iPad auto inserts a full stop itself in the gap.

Also, following the (ingrained) principles of military electronic signal writing training from decades ago, the instruction at that time was for specific spacing, one space after a comma, two spaces after a full stop. (I come unstuck).

Also in my case, the iPad freezes and glitches - what I’ve actually typed is sometimes appearing on screen as randomised nonsensical letters.

Dovesono · 13/08/2026 00:45

grumpygrape · 29/07/2026 21:26

I’m 70 and have been doing this for ! and ? for about 50 years so nothing to do with auto correct, texts, phones etc. I don’t know why but I do it but I think it makes it clearer, especially for a ! Apologies if I offend but does it really matter ?

I also double space between sentences; will I go to Hell ?

It certainly doesn't make it clearer if everyone invents their own punctuation variations.

canuckup · 13/08/2026 02:21

Incredibly irritating

Nearly as bad as no paragraphs

TheDogsMother · 13/08/2026 02:47

Are we talking about a space between the end of a word then a question mark or exclamation mark ? Like this ? Also two spaces after a full stop ? This was taught back in the day when learning to type with Pitman.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 13/08/2026 03:06

Why would anyone bother about whether a text has an additional space in it? Even for pedant's corner this is rather sad.

grumpygrape · 13/08/2026 09:08

Dovesono · 13/08/2026 00:45

It certainly doesn't make it clearer if everyone invents their own punctuation variations.

I don't see it as a punctuation variation, just a spacing variation.

I also double space before the next sentence so I probably will be going to hell.

grumpygrape · 13/08/2026 09:09

TheDogsMother · 13/08/2026 02:47

Are we talking about a space between the end of a word then a question mark or exclamation mark ? Like this ? Also two spaces after a full stop ? This was taught back in the day when learning to type with Pitman.

Ah, thank you. A recognised variation then ? Maybe I won't be going to hell 😉

sheepandbear · 13/08/2026 09:18

In French, it is correct to leave a space before most punctuation marks.
I found it odd for many years but now I prefer it and find myself doing it in English, (and having to correct myself !)

TheDogsMother · 13/08/2026 09:23

canuckup · 13/08/2026 02:21

Incredibly irritating

Nearly as bad as no paragraphs

Possibly by today's standards. But this was taught as the correct way to do things, albeit many years ago. See below.

grumpygrape · 13/08/2026 09:43

sheepandbear · 13/08/2026 09:18

In French, it is correct to leave a space before most punctuation marks.
I found it odd for many years but now I prefer it and find myself doing it in English, (and having to correct myself !)

Why do you have to correct yourself ? As a pp has said it was taught and was acceptable.

upinaballoon · 13/08/2026 11:47

Goinggonegone · 29/07/2026 20:41

Possessive pronoun before the gerund. 😊
My Mother was an English teacher, and used to call this out so many times.

Please would you give me a lesson on this? If I say, "My going to Paris was a terrible mistake." would 'my' be the possessive pronoun before the gerund 'going'?
I have left two spaces between sentences. My e-mail programme would just get rid of one of the spaces as soon as I pressed 'Send'. I wonder what will happen here.

oviraptor21 · 13/08/2026 11:58

I do think it's an older person thing. I used to send emails out which volunteers had drafted and had two older people who put spaces before every punctuation mark. Such a time waster eliminating all the spaces but I refused to let an email under my name go out with the spaces still there.

suburburban · 13/08/2026 12:08

I was taught to leave a space after a full stop. Like so

Disturbia81 · 13/08/2026 12:11

People have always done it, looks weird.

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