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What do you think of this sentence about afternoon tea?

55 replies

MsAmerica · 22/01/2026 01:20

I thought you might like this:

What do you think of this second sentence, purely as a sentence, but also in terms of punctuation?

There was a silver tea-pot, and a silver kettle with a little spirit-lamp underneath, and a silver cream jug and a covered silver dish full of muffins. There was also hot buttered toast and honey and gentleman’s relish and a chocolate cake, a cherry cake, a seed cake and a fruit cake and some tomato sandwiches and pepper and salt and currant bread and butter.

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PollyBell · 22/01/2026 01:47

havent you alread posted this

mazedasamarchhare · 22/01/2026 01:53

I’d be thinking it was written by an upper primary aged child (7-11).

belleager · 22/01/2026 01:54

I like it. It conveys excitement at the spread. It lists words in an unexpected order which keeps the reader alert and attentive. It's technically correct though unusual

Is it from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe?

TheGerund · 22/01/2026 02:09

PollyBell · 22/01/2026 01:47

havent you alread posted this

Yes, on the Cunning Linguists board.

Apparently it’s from Vile Bodies by Waugh.

Silverbirchleaf · 22/01/2026 02:11

Slightly whimsical, and old fashioned, but it conveys excitement and is very descriptive, and can I have an invite?

PollyBell · 22/01/2026 02:50

TheGerund · 22/01/2026 02:09

Yes, on the Cunning Linguists board.

Apparently it’s from Vile Bodies by Waugh.

That's one way of putting it

ruethewhirl · 22/01/2026 02:50

I’d assume the narrator was a child, or an adult not accustomed to expressing themselves in writing.

CookingFatCat · 22/01/2026 02:55

It’s from a time gone by, ‘gentleman’s relish ‘ being the giveaway.

PigletJohn · 22/01/2026 02:57

It may be constructed to convey excitement at the overwhelming range of delicacies.

Like Ratty’s wicker basket.

O my!

PigletJohn · 22/01/2026 02:57

CookingFatCat · 22/01/2026 02:55

It’s from a time gone by, ‘gentleman’s relish ‘ being the giveaway.

I always keep some handy.

dailyconniptions · 22/01/2026 07:11

Silverbirchleaf · 22/01/2026 02:11

Slightly whimsical, and old fashioned, but it conveys excitement and is very descriptive, and can I have an invite?

Surely invite is the verb and invitation is the noun?

BitOutOfPractice · 22/01/2026 07:15

I found the commas (or lack of) and the randomly placed ‘ands’ a bit confusing in the list. But that’s Art I guess, innit?

TheGerund · 22/01/2026 09:31

PigletJohn · 22/01/2026 02:57

I always keep some handy.

I bought a small pot of The Gentleman’s Relish at Waitrose for my dear partner at Christmastide. It remains uneaten. I hope this is delayed gratification on his part as opposed to quiet horror.

CallMeBettyBoop · 22/01/2026 09:43

I love a bit of gentleman’s relish on a buttered muffin. Needs to be sparing though. Not a euphemism :)

Somersetbaker · 22/01/2026 10:50

Needs proper use of commas, rather than repeated conjunctions. "a seed cake and a fruit cake and some tomato sandwiches and pepper and salt and currant bread and butter" is a hideous construction. The writer has obviously heard of the "Oxford comma" so thought he could try a few in the first sentence, but didn't bother in the second, where they may have helped. When I was at school that would have come back crossed out in red.

PigletJohn · 22/01/2026 13:33

And Kenneth Grahame would have been caned.

BillieWiper · 22/01/2026 13:44

It sounds like a little kid getting excited about something. You can imagine them jumping up and down saying 'there was this cake and that cake and that cake and this cake and sandwiches and this and that and and and...'

It makes it sound quite bountiful and decadent and the narrator is almost overwhelmed with excitement about the selection of things.

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 22/01/2026 13:48

Hard to say without context. As a pure standalone description it leaves something to be desired, but as a way of conveying mounting excitement and overwhelming abundance without specifically mentioning either, I think it's quite nicely done.

Silverbirchleaf · 22/01/2026 14:00

dailyconniptions · 22/01/2026 07:11

Surely invite is the verb and invitation is the noun?

I didn’t think ‘invite’ was wrong, but your post made me check it out. From reading a couple of different sources, ‘invite’ isn’t wrong, and is perhaps more informal, but ‘invitation’ is the correct form, and should be used in letters, formal situations etc.

justtheotheronemrswembley · 22/01/2026 15:53

Shouldn't there be commas instead of 'and' and 'and' and 'and' and 'and' and 'and'?

belleager · 22/01/2026 16:36

justtheotheronemrswembley · 22/01/2026 15:53

Shouldn't there be commas instead of 'and' and 'and' and 'and' and 'and' and 'and'?

Commas would be optional here, and I think it flows better without them.

CaptainMyCaptain · 22/01/2026 19:44

CookingFatCat · 22/01/2026 02:55

It’s from a time gone by, ‘gentleman’s relish ‘ being the giveaway.

You can still buy it (not the point of the thread).

CaptainMyCaptain · 22/01/2026 19:47

Somersetbaker · 22/01/2026 10:50

Needs proper use of commas, rather than repeated conjunctions. "a seed cake and a fruit cake and some tomato sandwiches and pepper and salt and currant bread and butter" is a hideous construction. The writer has obviously heard of the "Oxford comma" so thought he could try a few in the first sentence, but didn't bother in the second, where they may have helped. When I was at school that would have come back crossed out in red.

I think that is deliberate and is supposed to convey the sheer abundance of food.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 22/01/2026 19:56

CaptainMyCaptain · 22/01/2026 19:47

I think that is deliberate and is supposed to convey the sheer abundance of food.

Indeed, and it's Evelyn Waugh as PP said.

Frankly I think if anyone in that scenario is qualified to be wielding a red pen it's him!

Somersetbaker · 22/01/2026 20:43

Possibly acceptable if it was quoting a child, describing the repast, who wouldn't be expected to understand the finer points of grammar and sentence construction, but to say it's Evelyn Waugh it must be ok is total bollocks.

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