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Pedants' corner

I thought I'd seen it all...

129 replies

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 01/03/2025 15:39

...but over on Facebook someone has repeatedly used 'cart' instead of 'can't'. Not just the once, which I could overlook, but continuously.

I may have to delete Facebook. And then burn my laptop.

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sidebirds · 17/03/2025 16:55

niadainud · 16/03/2025 19:49

Jesus Christ.

I haven't actually seen this one, but I reckon it's only a matter of time: "He told me a cock and balls story."

⬆️ almost fell out my chair 😂😂😂

niadainud · 17/03/2025 16:57

sidebirds · 17/03/2025 16:55

⬆️ almost fell out my chair 😂😂😂

Apologies!

sidebirds · 17/03/2025 17:40

upinaballoon · 02/03/2025 22:08

Thank you !

Re et cetera - on a thread quite a while ago, either here or Chat, there was a question from a person whose first language wasn't English. She/He asked what it should be, having realised that it appeared more than one way. I was well pleased that someone cared and wanted to know. I often write it out the long way, really because of that person's question.

i'm astonished how people in the public eye regularly make the 'ect.' blunder when speaking; always an attempt to utter the term in full: "eck cetera". Nigel Farage constantly does this (not trying to score any political points; i am neutral for the purposes of this thread). why doesn't someone tell him?

upinaballoon · 17/03/2025 20:13

sidebirds · 17/03/2025 17:40

i'm astonished how people in the public eye regularly make the 'ect.' blunder when speaking; always an attempt to utter the term in full: "eck cetera". Nigel Farage constantly does this (not trying to score any political points; i am neutral for the purposes of this thread). why doesn't someone tell him?

You and I could both write to him at the House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA.

PinkoPonko · 18/03/2025 05:55

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 16/03/2025 15:36

Infidel for someone being unfaithful is brilliant! It makes a kind of sense, if fidelity is being faithful, doesn't it?

It was a brilliant, inadvertent coinage! I’d love to adopt it, but I’m leery of starting a culture war!

PinkoPonko · 18/03/2025 06:08

notarealgreendress · 17/03/2025 01:30

Yes, it's actually a perfectly reasonable use of the word, which means "unfaithful". We only use it now in a religious sense, but it's not exactly wrong to use it to refer to an adulterer, really, is it?

I find I'm mellowing with regards to all this as I get older. If you don't read books or newspapers, if you didn't grow up reading them, you'll only know a lot of these words and phrases from hearing (or mishearing) them. Not everyone had the advantages I had growing up in a house full of books with educated and intelligent parents.

My gran always told me never to laugh at someone mispronouncing a word because it meant they learned it from reading (and indeed my DH had to break it to me that I'd spent my early adult life mispronouncing "quotient" and "escalope", for example).

Context matters, though. Infidel has a very specific, religious usage amongst Indians/other South Asians. And, combined with the level of writing in that post, it was an accidentally apt coinage at best. Even some of the other posters were confused about what was meant. It’s not even common in Indian English, which has developed some genuine gems which facilitate communication rather than hindering it. (E.g., let’s prepone the meeting.)

LillyPJ · 18/03/2025 06:38

Flozle · 16/03/2025 22:58

Walla?

Common misspelling of 'voila'.

LillyPJ · 18/03/2025 06:47

niadainud · 17/03/2025 16:43

This is because people a) don't enunciate properly and b) don't read. See also:
Pack lunch
Mix grill
Cut and dry (I mean the expression "cut and dried" as opposed to what you might have done at the hairdresser's).

'Worse' and 'worst' often get mixed up for the same reason.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 18/03/2025 07:08

A brilliant post the other day (talking about an overheard conversation) started with ‘I was in the isle at the supermarket’ and ended with ‘can’t educate the ignorant’.

And someone else was advocating changing a name by deed pole.

But the one I find really painful is the ubiquitous replacement of ‘purposely’ with ‘purposefully’, as though the two words are interchangeable. I see it everywhere and it drives me demented.

MrsPatrickDempsey · 18/03/2025 07:18

This morning on here I have read 'I am on tenderhooks' and 'secertery'.

MrsPatrickDempsey · 18/03/2025 07:20

I have also seen 'secatory' written for secretary.

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 18/03/2025 09:28

coronafiona · 16/03/2025 21:37

Don’t put them on a peddle stool

I've seen someone complaining about friend putting her child on a pedi-stool.

To cut his toenails, presumably.

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/03/2025 15:02

Is they any after school clubs after....

Today on a local Facebook group.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 05/04/2025 09:30

I put 'secketry' in the same bracket as 'nucular' - most people using the words have literally NEVER seen them written down and are writing them as they hear them used on TV.

If I have to hear about the Home Seketry once more.... I used to be a SecRETARY and pronounce the word very very forcefully to make the point.

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Flozle · 05/04/2025 09:42

”alternate” instead of “alternative”
I know it’s common in American English, but it makes my hackles rise.

moggiek · 05/04/2025 09:45

MrsRuthFisher · 16/03/2025 23:14

Voilà!

OMG 😂😂

Emptyandsad · 05/04/2025 10:50

PinkoPonko · 12/03/2025 04:42

Some of my “bare bugs”:
Using borrow and lend interchangeably. E.g., “DS borrowed his friend a game”. And, believe it or not, I recently saw leaned as a past tense for lend.
A newsreader on a renowned overseas channel using incidences for incidents.
Keep hearing/reading casted for cast in X role.
”Infidel” being used to mean adulterous person. This took me a while to work out as the term was being bandied about on a Bollywood gossip site.
”Revert back” to mean respond (also entrenched in Indian English).
And, proofing pudding.
Shriek!

Revert back is very common in the legal professions

niadainud · 05/04/2025 12:29

Emptyandsad · 05/04/2025 10:50

Revert back is very common in the legal professions

That's kind of surprising given that you'd expect legal professionals to be using language clearly, precisely and accurately in order to convey clear, precise and accurate thinking.

I'm frequently astonished by the appalling level of English on this site. There was an OP the other day full of "he's" when they meant "his", and "meant" spelt as "ment" later in the thread. I realise not everyone has the benefit of an excellent education, but this is lower years of primary stuff, not university level, or even GCSE.

Flozle · 05/04/2025 13:07

A common one round these is “puck” instead of “picked”. So “he was puck up” instead of picked up. Makes me clench so hard.

OldJohn · 05/04/2025 13:18

unsync · 02/03/2025 12:35

My teeth are itching. Thanks. I did chortle at 'forcible' though. A forcible future sounds like a Trumpian method of resolving conflict.

Please don't suggest it to him. He has enough crazy ideas already.
I can foresee many political and economic problems in the foreseeable future.

Bignanna · 05/04/2025 13:26

Often pronounced Seckertary !

TravellingJack · 05/04/2025 13:34

Much as these errors make me twitch, I prefer cart/carnt to saying can when they mean can’t because at least you can usually work out what they mean!

An example I’ve seen recently: ‘Can someone recommend a cheap version of x? I can afford it.’ Cue everyone saying just buy that one if you can afford it because a cheap one won’t live up to it… and the OP getting cross and repeating ‘no I can afford it!’ 🙇🏻‍♀️

PaperwhiteTheFriendlyGhost · 05/04/2025 13:36

niadainud · 05/04/2025 12:29

That's kind of surprising given that you'd expect legal professionals to be using language clearly, precisely and accurately in order to convey clear, precise and accurate thinking.

I'm frequently astonished by the appalling level of English on this site. There was an OP the other day full of "he's" when they meant "his", and "meant" spelt as "ment" later in the thread. I realise not everyone has the benefit of an excellent education, but this is lower years of primary stuff, not university level, or even GCSE.

I particularly hate his instead of he's especially when nobody ever uses shis instead of she's. Just WHY??????

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 05/04/2025 13:38

Oh and I've just seen the perennial 'to eek something out', implying that it's truly terrifying. The use of the word 'eke' is endangered.

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Bignanna · 05/04/2025 14:35

I heard a news reporter say “he was iller”
Also “ unedible “ “ he seeked” “ he has went”