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Mac 'n' cheese...

131 replies

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 12/10/2024 14:41

Another American import that makes me want to bleach my eyes and ears and permanently damage those who use it, especially on chain pub and restaurant menus
I'm pissed. Well, I will be once I open the wine.
Pissed off as that's another import that creates a different scenario to that intended!

OP posts:
Ketchupmunchies · 14/10/2024 12:37

CarolinaInTheMorning · 14/10/2024 12:28

I have an easy fix for y'all. Stop consuming so much American media. Or even better, consume it all you like, but put the brakes on this petty linguistic and culinary xenophobia.

I think the issue is that this isn’t just happening in American media but is steadily creeping in here.
Plus you are in Pedants’ Corner where we can be as pedantic as we like - so you can bore off with your “xenophobia” accusations… Hmm
I completely concur with your mac’n’cheese irritation OP (which you may have guessed!)

Sgtmajormummy · 14/10/2024 12:42

“Smashed potatoes” are double-fried roast potatoes and very tasty they are, too!
www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/crispy_smashed_potatoes_70636

StMarieforme · 14/10/2024 12:53

Forsooth, 'tis withering and leaves one vexed when our bountiful verbalises are dismembered such.
May we speak with an equitable formality through time, ne'er erring from our righteous path.

CarolinaInTheMorning · 14/10/2024 13:14

Plus you are in Pedants’ Corner

Exactly. At the risk of sounding like the thread police, it used to be a place where people who love language or needed advice on grammar and usage would talk, not a place to deride and mock other cultures.

upinaballoon · 14/10/2024 13:27

marshmallowfinder · 14/10/2024 12:21

Bloody lucky he didn't say movies. It's ubiquitous now, to call films 'movies'. I'm so fed up of hearing it.

I went to the pictures on Saturday.

marshmallowfinder · 14/10/2024 15:39

CarolinaInTheMorning · 14/10/2024 13:14

Plus you are in Pedants’ Corner

Exactly. At the risk of sounding like the thread police, it used to be a place where people who love language or needed advice on grammar and usage would talk, not a place to deride and mock other cultures.

It's whatever its users want it to be and wish to discuss. I don't see any 'mocking' of other cultures, more a regret that some British language, words, and phrases are in danger of being lost. It's OK to be frustrated and annoyed about this and want to talk about it.

Rubyandscarlett · 14/10/2024 15:47

I will call it mac and cheese the same day l call it spaghetti and bolognaise.

When hell freezes over!

ethelredonagoodday · 14/10/2024 16:20

I have two children, both at secondary school, and consequently spend a lot of my time saying, "we are not American, please stop using that word/phrase". 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣

CarolinaInTheMorning · 14/10/2024 18:00

Rubyandscarlett · 14/10/2024 15:47

I will call it mac and cheese the same day l call it spaghetti and bolognaise.

When hell freezes over!

As this is Pedants' corner, let me point out that linguistically, this is an odd analogy (also as to the person who attempted to make the same point with "steak Diane.") In both cases, the modifiers Diane and Bolognese, refer to a person or place after which the dish is named. The name "macaroni and cheese" or "mac and cheese" refers to the ingredients. There is a linguistic difference; the name is not equivalent to steak Diane or spaghetti Bolognese.

RaraRachael · 14/10/2024 19:06

ethelredonagoodday · 14/10/2024 16:20

I have two children, both at secondary school, and consequently spend a lot of my time saying, "we are not American, please stop using that word/phrase". 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣

I was always saying "We're not American" when any of my pupils came out with such gems as diaper, butt, movies and recess.

TroysMammy · 14/10/2024 20:05

My teenage niece calls Jammie Dodgers bloody cookies!!!!! She also says Mac 'n' Cheese. I can't bear to call it that and refer to it by its full and proper name. I'm waiting for that other abomination cauliflower cheese to be abbreviated. I like cheese sauce and I also like cauliflower but together bleugh.

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 15/10/2024 14:33

RVEllacott · 13/10/2024 22:35

I've found my people. I agree with all these irritations and to make matters worse all my young adult children have used them, or variations, in the last few days.

DS2 referred to the dinner I made us as mac 'n' cheese, DD uses "excited for" as default and DS1 said to me this afternoon "I've seen a couple films this week" It's a couple of, dammit, and he's usually pretty pedantic about language 🙄

Aarrgggh!! I feel your pain
Thoughts and prayers

OP posts:
Kingsleadhat · 15/10/2024 19:33

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 15/10/2024 14:33

Aarrgggh!! I feel your pain
Thoughts and prayers

What's your view of "watching" instead of "looking after" or "babysitting"? My daughter asked me to watch my grandson and I always want to say "why,? What's he doing?"

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/10/2024 19:57

Kingsleadhat · 15/10/2024 19:33

What's your view of "watching" instead of "looking after" or "babysitting"? My daughter asked me to watch my grandson and I always want to say "why,? What's he doing?"

Could that be a UK regional thing though?

Kingsleadhat · 15/10/2024 20:08

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/10/2024 19:57

Could that be a UK regional thing though?

I don't know. I thought it was an American import

RaraRachael · 15/10/2024 20:10

NE Scotland here and we say watching the children.
We also say somebody's "getting" a baby rather than "having"

SabrinaThwaite · 15/10/2024 20:11

And don’t forget clapping the dog.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/10/2024 20:12

Kingsleadhat · 15/10/2024 20:08

I don't know. I thought it was an American import

I don't really know.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/10/2024 20:46

RaraRachael · 15/10/2024 20:10

NE Scotland here and we say watching the children.
We also say somebody's "getting" a baby rather than "having"

I think that's what I was thinking of.

No idea what clapping the dog means.

SabrinaThwaite · 15/10/2024 20:52

Clapping the dog is giving them a pat.

I lived in NE Scotland for many years and MIL is from Fife, so I think I’ve absorbed a fair bit over the years. My sister only recently realised that ‘swithering’ (a favourite of mine) isn’t a made up word.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/10/2024 20:54

Clapping sounds a bit more brutal than patting.

upinaballoon · 15/10/2024 21:13

RaraRachael · 15/10/2024 20:10

NE Scotland here and we say watching the children.
We also say somebody's "getting" a baby rather than "having"

I knew a teacher who went to work in Yorkshire. She would talk about people 'getting a baby', as if she had heard the children say it like that.

AntsMarching · 15/10/2024 21:16

Kingsleadhat · 14/10/2024 09:42

Also Cornstarch instead of Cornflour and Takeout instead of takeaway and for fucks' sake apple sauce is two words

Corn starch and corn flour, whilst similar, are two separate ingredients.

Kingsleadhat · 15/10/2024 21:45

AntsMarching · 15/10/2024 21:16

Corn starch and corn flour, whilst similar, are two separate ingredients.

In the UK cornflour is what Americans call Cornstarch. Cornflour in the US is a type of cornmeal

RaraRachael · 15/10/2024 21:47

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/10/2024 20:54

Clapping sounds a bit more brutal than patting.

It's just the same really.
My sister asked her English niece if she wanted to clap her dog so she stood beside it and gave it a little round of applause!

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