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Mac 'n' cheese...

131 replies

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 12/10/2024 14:41

Another American import that makes me want to bleach my eyes and ears and permanently damage those who use it, especially on chain pub and restaurant menus
I'm pissed. Well, I will be once I open the wine.
Pissed off as that's another import that creates a different scenario to that intended!

OP posts:
PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 13/10/2024 04:00

Rummly · 13/10/2024 03:43

I went to a mac ‘n cheese restaurant in the US. They sold macaroni cheese. That’s all they sold.

🤯

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AmeliaEarache · 13/10/2024 11:14

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 13/10/2024 04:00

No, not an American invention! My gripe is the increasing use of the term mac n cheese here!

In fairness, macaroni cheese has been a dish in America since Thomas Jefferson’s era. It’s a much more culturally significant and long-lived dish there than here.

Jefferson’s chef (and slave and common-law brother in law) had a recipe I’ve totally failed to replicate despite several attempts.
I’ve done ok with the ice cream recipe though.

My grandmothers (born in 1906 and 1912 respectively) had never had it as children nor known it as common, although my mum (1947) had. I’m happy to acknowledge the longer American pedigree.

AmeliaEarache · 13/10/2024 11:22

Ok, I stand corrected - Wiki says it was in England in the 14th century!
Maybe it’s like pasta and China Vs Italy. Came from the former, more important in the latter 🤔

I still think macaroni and cheese is much more culturally significant to North America than to Brits. It’s the equivalent of beans on toast - a warm, cheap and filling meal children grow up on.

Crazyeight · 13/10/2024 11:32

Americans just can't do cheese at all. Their 'cheddar' is laughable so I have no idea why they think making cheesy dishes their hallmark is a good idea (see cheese burgers and Chicago pizza)

Kingsleadhat · 13/10/2024 11:44

Chicken tenders. They're goujons

upinaballoon · 13/10/2024 12:05

I never make macaroni cheese because I like cauliflower cheese and I always feel virtuous about the vegetable content. The term 'mac 'n' cheese' is a bit irritating.
I like the suggested reason for an avocado being described as 'smashed'. I'm not sure if 'smashed potatoes' are just lumpy or ever so middle class or both.

Off-topic but not unrelated : goose pimples used to be acceptable in this country. Are goose bumps also a modern American import? Don't tell me, Susie Dent's found a letter dated 1124 where an English lord has referred to his goose bumps.

upinaballoon · 13/10/2024 12:08

I've not met chicken tenders yet. Wish bones and side bones and parson's noses I know.

zeitweilig · 13/10/2024 12:08

Macaroni cheese. 😬
Mac 'n' cheese. 🤢

zeitweilig · 13/10/2024 12:08

upinaballoon · 13/10/2024 12:08

I've not met chicken tenders yet. Wish bones and side bones and parson's noses I know.

Chicken tenders can be ok, if they're decent chicken and the batter is crispy. Comfort food.

upinaballoon · 13/10/2024 12:10

zeitweilig · 13/10/2024 12:08

Chicken tenders can be ok, if they're decent chicken and the batter is crispy. Comfort food.

Which bit of the chicken is it?

BobbyBiscuits · 13/10/2024 12:10

It's absolutely disgusting which doesn't help. I just remember it being called 'macaroni cheese' and coming from a tin. It was served out of vats at primary school dinners and I still shudder at the thought and the smell.
Now the spelling is bothering me as well. 🤣

redtrain123 · 13/10/2024 12:10

I’m with you op. Macaroni cheese I love (and have eaten it all my life in the UK). Hate the Americanism of its name.

zeitweilig · 13/10/2024 12:12

upinaballoon · 13/10/2024 12:10

Which bit of the chicken is it?

Well I only buy ones which are made with chicken breast but I imagine you can get varying quality meat in them. Maybe what I'm buying aren't technically 'tenders' but they've been called that on the packet. I avoid MRM etc.

zeitweilig · 13/10/2024 12:13

BobbyBiscuits · 13/10/2024 12:10

It's absolutely disgusting which doesn't help. I just remember it being called 'macaroni cheese' and coming from a tin. It was served out of vats at primary school dinners and I still shudder at the thought and the smell.
Now the spelling is bothering me as well. 🤣

Tinned macaroni cheese is a very odd texture indeed.....

CherryBlossomArt · 13/10/2024 12:15

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 13/10/2024 00:17

smashed avocado if you please. It always has to be 'smashed' for some inexplicable reason

Yes, ‘smashing’ something implies an impact from a distance. If avocados are in a disintegrated form, you’d presume they’d been crushed or mashed, not thrown at a hard surface, or had a weight dropped on them to smash them.

BridgetRandomfuck · 13/10/2024 12:18

Great, other people who feel as strongly as I do! I’ve moaned about this to DH for years, or at least for as long as Mac N Cheese seems to be taking over. It’s macaroni cheese and I will die on this hill! Why can’t we have our own things? Why is the American name better?

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 13/10/2024 12:28

BridgetRandomfuck · 13/10/2024 12:18

Great, other people who feel as strongly as I do! I’ve moaned about this to DH for years, or at least for as long as Mac N Cheese seems to be taking over. It’s macaroni cheese and I will die on this hill! Why can’t we have our own things? Why is the American name better?

It isn't!! But people think they are cool using US terms
Pissed for pissed off is becoming very popular too
As is US spelling, which is pure laziness. Not that hard to put a 'u' in neighbour!

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AtomicBlondeRose · 13/10/2024 12:41

I’ve definitely read 1930s British books where they were eating macaroni cheese, and it’s mentioned casually, not as an exotic thing. Usually it’s a signifier of a less well to-do or cost-cutting family.

RaraRachael · 13/10/2024 12:41

I second that American cheese is disgusting- awful squirty stuff out of an aerosol can.

They also make cheese sauce differently with cream cheese and not by heating it in a pan.

Sethera · 13/10/2024 12:42

Don't tell me, Susie Dent's found a letter dated 1124 where an English lord has referred to his goose bumps

😂

viques · 13/10/2024 12:44

AmeliaEarache · 13/10/2024 11:22

Ok, I stand corrected - Wiki says it was in England in the 14th century!
Maybe it’s like pasta and China Vs Italy. Came from the former, more important in the latter 🤔

I still think macaroni and cheese is much more culturally significant to North America than to Brits. It’s the equivalent of beans on toast - a warm, cheap and filling meal children grow up on.

Don’t you mean beanz’n’toast?

(puts on tin hat and running shoes…..)

Anonym00se · 13/10/2024 12:44

TentEntWenTyfOur · 12/10/2024 16:26

That doesn't bother me as much as finding the prices on a restaurant menu looking like this:

Mac 'n' cheese ................. 11.5

This grates on me too. I sometimes wonder if I could legally pay in Japanese Yen as they haven’t stipulated the currency.

Kingsleadhat · 13/10/2024 12:47

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 13/10/2024 12:28

It isn't!! But people think they are cool using US terms
Pissed for pissed off is becoming very popular too
As is US spelling, which is pure laziness. Not that hard to put a 'u' in neighbour!

Also "based off" instead of "based on' and "excited for" rather than "excited about "

AmeliaEarache · 13/10/2024 13:16

RaraRachael · 13/10/2024 12:41

I second that American cheese is disgusting- awful squirty stuff out of an aerosol can.

They also make cheese sauce differently with cream cheese and not by heating it in a pan.

You’re hanging out with the wrong North Americans!

Strong Canadian cheddar, no sauce, just a bit of the cooking liquid, the cheese, stirring (off the heat) to emulsify. Kind of like caci e pepe or carbonara.

Only a bit of cream cheese or evaporated milk if you’ve not got the emulsification right. Huge quantities of black pepper.

Squirty cheese and squirty cream are definitely obscene, I agree.

Macaroni and cheese makes more sense as a name than macaroni cheese. We don’t say ‘fish chips’.

(although if you’re in primary school and Canadian it’s Kraft Dinner with fluorescent orange powder that bears no resemblance to cheese and is packed so full of e-numbers it would probably last a century. Revolting and marvellous stuff)

AmeliaEarache · 13/10/2024 13:17

viques · 13/10/2024 12:44

Don’t you mean beanz’n’toast?

(puts on tin hat and running shoes…..)

😂
Because Beanz Meanz Heinz (but Branston are better)