Do you pronounce the word....

[ILookAtTheFloor]

"Value"

as.....

Vow-yoo.

I'm daughter says it like this and it makes my heckles rise. I've noticed the Tesco advert voice over woman also pronounces it this way! I can't explain why I dislike it so much.

I was just going to say that I pronounce value as value-ew.
And yes, I am Welsh from the Valleys!

value-ew

Did you mean that?

Sounds like they would say it in Essex

I was raised in Essex , this swallowing of l and t was quite normal. Waw'er for water for instance.

I think it's probably spread its geographic range as part of 'estuary English'.

I alway thought it was a speech impediment, but thinking on it, Stacy Solomon and her bloke Joe Whatsit don't pronounce their Ls much, so I guess it is regional.

I know the thread is a few days old, but I found out during the night when up with DC.

I wonder how many people judging those who don't pronounce the L in value don't pronounce their R's. It's all just accent surely!

Yes, exactly.

I bet plenty of people complaning about "lazy" pronunciatoin don't have a rhotic r.

I'm another Swansea girl and I say VAL-iw with no 'y' sound as well.

I think it is called a glotteral stop. Like pronouncing butter "bu-er"

It is in part regional, it is also seen as cool by some people.

There is a (really good) historian who did the series about farming in the 2nd ww or something, who kept using glotteral stops, and referring to her working class roots.

I don't like it, and I correct dc if they use it.

I know many Welsh people would pronounce the word a bit like "val-oo", but are you saying that they would pronounce "ewe" on it's own in a different way to "you"?

Just asked DH what he calls a female sheep and he did indeed say ‘ew’ not ‘you’.

Is he pronouncing "ew" as "oo"? No Y sound at all?

This.

@MasterBeth No, not oo as in zoo. Like the end of ‘you’ or ‘Huw’ or ‘grew’ without any y sound.

I’m struggling to get this as if I say the word you without a y sound I make the same sound as when I say zoo without a z!

Can you explain how it’s different?

My Scottish boss says vow yoo and mill yun.

Not lazy or thick. Definite strong accent though.

Pedants' Corner

So what I get from this thread is that people who hear me speaking think I'm a thick lazy 'chav', is that correct?

Glottal stop.
(Aka glo'al stop, of course)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glottal_stop

Some languages/alphabets have a symbol for this sound.

Yes but don't worry, you have plenty of company. Pretty much anyone with an accent from anywhere other than SE England gets this at some point. It almost, almost, becomes amusing.

That's very true. When I concentrate I can go quite RP - I think probably a lot of people might be surprised when i relax and slip back into estuary mode.

Ah yes, thank you - glottal. My dc has just confirmed it should be pronounced "glo'al schtop"

I agree accent bashing isn't a good thing. But actually I think this accent is from SE England? Estuary being thames estuary?

I don't have a degree in neuro-linguistics. Do you? I have some experience in teaching letters and hearing children reading and sounding out words and if a ten-year old, for example, was puzzled by a four-syllable word like 'simplicity' I would be suggesting splitting it up gently into its component parts and I would be hoping hear 'i-ty' at the end of it, with the 't' sounded.

I have been practising saying words which end in 'ity' and if I am physically lazy I can say 'i'y' without moving my mouth. If I say 'ity' it takes me a small amount more of physical effort.

hoping to hear

I missed out the 'to' by being too lazy to proof-read properly.

I'm curious whether you pronounce the r in words like farmer @upinaballoon? Or if you enunciate the difference between witch and which?

If not, is that because you are too lazy to do so?