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Do you pronounce the word....

117 replies

ILookAtTheFloor · 19/09/2023 19:51

"Value"

as.....

Vow-yoo.

I'm daughter says it like this and it makes my heckles rise. I've noticed the Tesco advert voice over woman also pronounces it this way! I can't explain why I dislike it so much.

OP posts:
MasterBeth · 15/11/2023 17:26

What does lazy speech even mean, Hyacinth Bucket?

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LadyMonicaBaddingham · 15/11/2023 17:29

penjil · 15/11/2023 17:22

Almost as bad as those people who pronounce "Towel Rail" as "Tao Rao".

Just lazy speech, and sounds chavvy.

Tao Rao 🤣🤣🤣

Topseyt123 · 15/11/2023 17:33

I'm in Essex too and do sometimes hear this. I don't like it either. It's cringeworthy.

The L should definitely be pronounced.

tinytemper66 · 15/11/2023 17:49

I say Val u

upinaballoon · 15/11/2023 17:53

MasterBeth · 15/11/2023 17:26

What does lazy speech even mean, Hyacinth Bucket?

Lazy speech means undergraduates on the local news, who do not come from a part of Britain where the glottal stop is part of their dialect, talking about universities and saying,"universi'ies", because they're silly, lazy trendy wendies.

Hyacinth has read my comment and says she completely agrees with me.

BecauseTheWorld · 15/11/2023 17:57

vaw-you doesn’t sound anything like value?

hexsnidgett · 15/11/2023 18:04

Saying vaw you and tao rao over and over to myself is giving me a good giggle.Smile

Mumtobabyhavoc · 15/11/2023 18:07

I/we say "val-you." Doesn't really count though as I am in Canada. 😂
Post reminded me of relatives from our prairie provinces who pronounce, "film" as, "fill-im."

Yeah, two syllables. 🤦‍♀️
A Chandler Bing Friends episode could've been written about it. 🤣

quivers · 15/11/2023 18:17

yogasaurus · 19/09/2023 19:53

It’s Val-you

Vow-yoo is for the thick

No, it isn't for the thick. It is a regional accent. I grew up in Essex and swallowing your 'l's is not unusual.

rainbowsparkle28 · 15/11/2023 18:20

Nope I agree with you - val-yew/you. There is an L 🤷🏼‍♀️

CurlewKate · 15/11/2023 18:24

One of the joys I have found in advancing years is that I no longer get wound up by things like this. The relief is wonderful.

MasterBeth · 15/11/2023 21:11

upinaballoon · 15/11/2023 17:53

Lazy speech means undergraduates on the local news, who do not come from a part of Britain where the glottal stop is part of their dialect, talking about universities and saying,"universi'ies", because they're silly, lazy trendy wendies.

Hyacinth has read my comment and says she completely agrees with me.

Why is that lazy?

CatchHimDerry · 16/11/2023 23:46

Was going to say it’s regional, I’ve heard it pronounced that way too. Usually Essex sort of region, like PP suggest.

I’d say “val-you”, some family members would say “val-ewe” (Welsh, but I lived away for 20+ years so say some things differently)

mathanxiety · 17/11/2023 06:07

MasterBeth · 15/11/2023 17:17

It is a soft W sound in the way that the daughter pronounces it. There is no central authority to how words should be pronounced.

Two completely different mouth movements are involved. Only one is the correct way to pronounce the L sound in 'value'. It's the one where the front of the tongue presses against the alveolar ridge or back of the front teeth.

faffadoodledo · 17/11/2023 06:32

ILookAtTheFloor · 19/09/2023 19:51

"Value"

as.....

Vow-yoo.

I'm daughter says it like this and it makes my heckles rise. I've noticed the Tesco advert voice over woman also pronounces it this way! I can't explain why I dislike it so much.

Val-you. I've never heard it pronounced the other way. But then I haven't seen that Tesco advert.

Also:
My daughter
Hackles

I would never correct. But this is Pedants Corner after all.

C1N1C · 17/11/2023 06:37

I've heard Americans who pronounce it vow yoo

Coolblur · 17/11/2023 06:47

Mumtobabyhavoc this is also a thing with a lot of Scottish people, except it's 'fil-um' here.

elQuintoConyo · 17/11/2023 06:56

A coworker from south London says vow-yoo; also way-oos for Wales, and say-oos for sales.

Dubliner DH says fil-um, as does his entire family.

I'm an English teacher, none of the above gets my goat. Neither does the aristocratic 'bleck ket' for black cat. All variations on a theme.

windysocks · 17/11/2023 07:09

It will likely be regional accent- somewhere in south east ?

Loverofoxbowlakes · 17/11/2023 07:20

yogasaurus · 19/09/2023 19:58

Lots of morons speak like this in Essex.

Edited

I've definitely heard vow-you in Essex/east Herts.

See also 'Caaw' for the name Carl, 'hos-pih-uw' for hospital. L's dropped left, right and centre!

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 17/11/2023 07:37

yogasaurus · 19/09/2023 19:53

It’s Val-you

Vow-yoo is for the thick

Well I think it's more about accents, and whilst I agree that the word is "val-you" your post is very judgemental I'm afraid.

That attitude prevailed in the middle part of the last century. I thought we'd moved on from there.

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 17/11/2023 07:39

Is not knowing that it's "hackles" not "heckles" lazy and thick too?

Just asking 🤷🏻‍♀️

ChannelNo19EDT · 17/11/2023 07:41

No I say val you!
I remember thinking that some Londoners pronounced l at the end of a word in a weird way. Usually if it it's at the end of a word. Is it a Cockney thing?

BitOutOfPractice · 17/11/2023 07:50

I really really hate the snobbery and sniffy superiority about accents on MN.

And yes OP, if you’re going to post in this section, calling people thick and lazy, get your SPAG and vocab right eh?

MasterBeth · 17/11/2023 09:03

mathanxiety · 17/11/2023 06:07

Two completely different mouth movements are involved. Only one is the correct way to pronounce the L sound in 'value'. It's the one where the front of the tongue presses against the alveolar ridge or back of the front teeth.

There is no correct way to pronounce words. There are ways which are deemed standard in certain accents. Standard accents are not "correct".