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Pronunciation of werewolf

258 replies

PotteringPondering · 09/07/2023 13:25

When I was growing up everybody pronounced it WEER-WOLF.

Now everybody seems to pronounce it WHERE-WOLF. I'm assuming it's an American thing. But even films with British accents seem to say 'WHERE-WOLF, no doubt for the American market.

I find this odd, particularly given the pronunciation of mere, here, sphere, sincere, adhere, revere etc.

I guess there's also premiere and derriere, but they both come from French words where a grave accent helps the 'air' sound (première, derrière).

The best evidence for the defence is there and where. But I suspect shenanigans going on with the h in both cases, which creates the AIR sound.

If I see an American werewolf round here I'm going to give it a sincere kick in the derrière.

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PuppyMonkey · 09/07/2023 16:22

Have watched the first bit of that video and can hear him saying whaling a few times - does he go on to say Wales later on to compare? I couldn’t sit through too much of it tbh. Grin

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:22

Prescottdanni123 · 09/07/2023 16:19

I have heard both weer and were wolf.

Completely flummoxed by the wear-where, whales - wales and wine - whine. Whether or not the mouth shape is different when you say each word, the H is silent.

flummoxed and yet so certain. Odd.

Prescottdanni123 · 09/07/2023 16:23

@EBearhug

Ahhh, I get it now. But at the same time, very, very few English people pronounce the 'wh' should like that. The H is normally redundant.

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 16:26

Prescottdanni123 · 09/07/2023 16:19

I have heard both weer and were wolf.

Completely flummoxed by the wear-where, whales - wales and wine - whine. Whether or not the mouth shape is different when you say each word, the H is silent.

Well, it just depends on your accent. In some accents it's silent, and in others it's not, and then you can distinctly hear the difference between wear and where for example. If your ear is attuned to it at least.

kitsuneghost · 09/07/2023 16:27

I say ware-wolf.

123ZYX · 09/07/2023 16:30

@LizzieAnt i was so convinced that the pronunciation of cloth wouldn't be disputed! Goes to show how much variance there can be

WinniFinniHadog · 09/07/2023 16:33

Prescottdanni123 · 09/07/2023 16:23

@EBearhug

Ahhh, I get it now. But at the same time, very, very few English people pronounce the 'wh' should like that. The H is normally redundant.

True, but I'm Welsh so have a Welsh accent. 🤣

So

where are you goin'? Has the "h" sound.

I'm bilingual als, so didn't learn to read or write in English till about age 8, and Welsh is a phonetic language, so as you can imagine those "h" sounds really are pronounced lol.

Surely you say the "h" in who though?

Or is he/she Dr Woo and not Dr Who 🤣

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 09/07/2023 16:33

Findyourneutralspace · 09/07/2023 14:07

I say sloath too. Is it because I’m northern?

Im in Newcastle and say sloth to rhyme with moth.

Also the were in werewolf is the same as in beware

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 16:33

123ZYX · 09/07/2023 16:30

@LizzieAnt i was so convinced that the pronunciation of cloth wouldn't be disputed! Goes to show how much variance there can be

I know! It's great isn't it?😁

PickledMuffin · 09/07/2023 16:36

Where-wolf, but my daughter calls them where-woofs!

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 16:36

WinniFinniHadog · 09/07/2023 16:33

True, but I'm Welsh so have a Welsh accent. 🤣

So

where are you goin'? Has the "h" sound.

I'm bilingual als, so didn't learn to read or write in English till about age 8, and Welsh is a phonetic language, so as you can imagine those "h" sounds really are pronounced lol.

Surely you say the "h" in who though?

Or is he/she Dr Woo and not Dr Who 🤣

Isn't it Dr Hoo?

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:36

For me cloth = claw-th

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:36

sloths terrify me a little

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 16:37

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:36

For me cloth = claw-th

Yes, me too.

WinniFinniHadog · 09/07/2023 16:44

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 16:36

Isn't it Dr Hoo?

Dr Hoo? I love it! as in the latter part of "Twit-ta-hoo" the sound an owl makes?

He/she is definitely Dr w-h-o in this Welsh house.

Accents are great things aren't they lol.

StaunchMomma · 09/07/2023 16:45

I'm old enough to remember the American Werewolf in London release and it was already where-wolf then so I don't know how far back you want to go but the 1981 seems pretty far😂

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say weer-wolf. Are you sure it's not just locally to you?

DownNative · 09/07/2023 16:54

It's "ware-wolf". That's it and that's all!

Also, I pronounce sloth to rhyme with cloth and moth. Northern Ireland here - from a few posts, it seems there are some pronunciation differences between us and the Republic of Ireland just as there is right across the UK.

But it is "ware-wolf" and I'm not accepting anything else! 🙈

IncomingTraffic · 09/07/2023 16:54

EBearhug · 09/07/2023 16:19

Has anyone seen the Family Guy episode with Brian and Stewie talking about Coolwhip? There you get the w/wh difference.

the video is embedded in that link is shared about the linguistics stuff.

DelphiniumBlue · 09/07/2023 16:55

Londoner, 60+, Where-wolf. Scouser H also says the same.

Newnamenewname109870 · 09/07/2023 16:59

Where are you from op? I’ve also never hear the ‘weer’ pronunciation

IncomingTraffic · 09/07/2023 17:02

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJ4rGuUp/

The difference between which and witch.

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Krustykrabpizza · 09/07/2023 17:02

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 15:54

Irish accents pronounce the H in where, whales, whine etc. so it can sound almost like h-where, h-whales etc. In fact when I was reading the OP's initial post I thought to myself 'I'd use wear-wolf or ware-wolf rather than where-wolf as my example, as in my Irish voice I pronounce the H in 'where'.'

Weer-wolf is a new one on me.

My husband is Irish and there is no difference in how he says Wales and whales

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 17:03

Krustykrabpizza · 09/07/2023 17:02

My husband is Irish and there is no difference in how he says Wales and whales

ok

DustyLee123 · 09/07/2023 17:04

We-er wolf.

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 17:04

WinniFinniHadog · 09/07/2023 16:44

Dr Hoo? I love it! as in the latter part of "Twit-ta-hoo" the sound an owl makes?

He/she is definitely Dr w-h-o in this Welsh house.

Accents are great things aren't they lol.

Yes, that sound more or less😅
I've no idea how you say it now. Just tried to google unsuccessfully.