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Pronunciation of werewolf

258 replies

PotteringPondering · 09/07/2023 13:25

When I was growing up everybody pronounced it WEER-WOLF.

Now everybody seems to pronounce it WHERE-WOLF. I'm assuming it's an American thing. But even films with British accents seem to say 'WHERE-WOLF, no doubt for the American market.

I find this odd, particularly given the pronunciation of mere, here, sphere, sincere, adhere, revere etc.

I guess there's also premiere and derriere, but they both come from French words where a grave accent helps the 'air' sound (première, derrière).

The best evidence for the defence is there and where. But I suspect shenanigans going on with the h in both cases, which creates the AIR sound.

If I see an American werewolf round here I'm going to give it a sincere kick in the derrière.

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HumourReplacementTherapy · 09/07/2023 15:33

I always thought it was a weirdwolf when I was a kid. Then again I thought sloths were fictional until erm I was ..... daren't say 😂

FindingTheFox · 09/07/2023 15:36

I'm a Londoner and say wear wolf. DH is from the NW and says were wolf. I've never heard it pronounced weer wolf.

PowerBMI · 09/07/2023 15:54

123ZYX · 09/07/2023 15:33

I heard a radio interview with a university professior who specialises in sloths who said that both pronunciations are acceptable, but that she uses the pronunciation that rhymes with cloth, rather than both, because there's a moth that lives on sloths called the "sloth moth" and it sounds better if they rhyme. (Sorry for the tongue twister!).

That ms amazing! I love that!

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 15:54

Krustykrabpizza · 09/07/2023 15:20

What!

I have never heard anyone make a huh sound in whales or whine. Wales and whales sounds completely the same for me.

I've also never heard anyone say weer wolf

Irish accents pronounce the H in where, whales, whine etc. so it can sound almost like h-where, h-whales etc. In fact when I was reading the OP's initial post I thought to myself 'I'd use wear-wolf or ware-wolf rather than where-wolf as my example, as in my Irish voice I pronounce the H in 'where'.'

Weer-wolf is a new one on me.

WunWun · 09/07/2023 16:02

According to YouTube, there is no difference between the pronunciation of wine and whine 😁 it's all wine

I've never heard anyone say whuh-ine! In real life or on TV

EggInANest · 09/07/2023 16:02

I think I say weer-wolf.

But sadly I don’t talk about them often enough to be sure.

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:04

WunWun · 09/07/2023 16:02

According to YouTube, there is no difference between the pronunciation of wine and whine 😁 it's all wine

I've never heard anyone say whuh-ine! In real life or on TV

Well if YouTube says so...

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:05

ReginaPerrin · 09/07/2023 15:24

It was always wear-wolf for me. I never heard it pronounced weir-wolf but I did notice that people were pronouncing the Wallace & Gromit film as weir-rabbit.

That's true re. the weir-rabbit.

IncomingTraffic · 09/07/2023 16:07

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:04

Well if YouTube says so...

you probably have heard someone say whine or whale or which or whether but haven’t really noticed they pronounce the wh.

It’s a subtle difference when you hear it, but it’s definitely a difference.

WinniFinniHadog · 09/07/2023 16:07

Krustykrabpizza · 09/07/2023 15:20

What!

I have never heard anyone make a huh sound in whales or whine. Wales and whales sounds completely the same for me.

I've also never heard anyone say weer wolf

It's probably my Welsh accent, similar to another Irish poster.

We tend to pronounce the "h" s in those words as our natural speech and accents.

Where
Who
What
When
Why
Whine
Whales
Whilst

All have the "h" (huh) sound.

Obviously Wales and whales, or that would be a confused nation 🤣

ceecee32 · 09/07/2023 16:08

I've always said weer wolf - never known anyone say where wolf

PuppyMonkey · 09/07/2023 16:09

My parents were both Irish and I can’t say I ever noticed them saying Wales and whales differently. Confused

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 16:09

* However, Latin for man is vir pronounced weer so there's a chance that while other languages changed the pronunciation to ware some kept weer 🤷🏻*

I'm still an early learner so don't @ me if I'm way off base.

My Latin is rusty but you're absolutely right about pronunciation.

Vir = weer
Salve = Salway

Etc

SoSoSoSo · 09/07/2023 16:09

I've never heard anyone pronounce it like weer.

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 16:10

Having said which, I've only ever heard ware-wolf.

mikado1 · 09/07/2023 16:12

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 15:54

Irish accents pronounce the H in where, whales, whine etc. so it can sound almost like h-where, h-whales etc. In fact when I was reading the OP's initial post I thought to myself 'I'd use wear-wolf or ware-wolf rather than where-wolf as my example, as in my Irish voice I pronounce the H in 'where'.'

Weer-wolf is a new one on me.

Not as a 'huh' though, I'm sure! I'm Irish and probably pronounce where and ware the same, unless I was really enunciating the where.

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 16:15

Also Irish and say ware-wolf. Ware is not pronounced the same as where in my accent (as pps have said already). Never heard it said as weer-wolf here, though it's not a word that crops up a lot to be fair😁

ApocalypseNowt · 09/07/2023 16:16

I pronounce it werewolf. Actually in my accent (NW) it sounds like it has 3 syllables - wee-yer-wolf Blush

MouseSculptureMadeOfOldHairbrushFluff · 09/07/2023 16:18

PuppyMonkey · 09/07/2023 16:09

My parents were both Irish and I can’t say I ever noticed them saying Wales and whales differently. Confused

If you listen to this video about whaling in Ireland you can hear the difference. Think the first mention comes about 3 mins in.

Whales and whaling in Ireland 100 years ago

An Irish zoologist based in the Hebrides in Scotland, Conor Ryan conducts research on the feeding ecology, migration and distribution of whales using a varie...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNhViXKGvKw

EBearhug · 09/07/2023 16:19

Has anyone seen the Family Guy episode with Brian and Stewie talking about Coolwhip? There you get the w/wh difference.

VintageThoughts · 09/07/2023 16:19

I used to say weir wolf. When I was about 12 I watched American ware wolf in London and we all pronounced it weir wolf. Both my DC say warewolf though.

Prescottdanni123 · 09/07/2023 16:19

I have heard both weer and were wolf.

Completely flummoxed by the wear-where, whales - wales and wine - whine. Whether or not the mouth shape is different when you say each word, the H is silent.

LizzieAnt · 09/07/2023 16:20

123ZYX · 09/07/2023 15:33

I heard a radio interview with a university professior who specialises in sloths who said that both pronunciations are acceptable, but that she uses the pronunciation that rhymes with cloth, rather than both, because there's a moth that lives on sloths called the "sloth moth" and it sounds better if they rhyme. (Sorry for the tongue twister!).

Love this reasoning (though cloth and moth don't actually rhyme at all in my Irish accent).

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