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To ask where this stupid phrase has come from?

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Bluesheep8 · 24/10/2021 09:43

"Swap out"
Why the addition of the word 'out' ?
I was in a restaurant last week and heard someone say "can I swap out the chips for new potatoes?"
The word swap says all that's needed surely? It just makes no sense Confused

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AnnieSnap · 26/10/2021 17:40

Described as awesome!

thebuswontfit · 27/10/2021 07:45

[quote RosesAndHellebores]@maternitycoat - really should have been "please may I have a skinny cap to go" Wink[/quote]
Please may i have a skinny cap to take away?

thebuswontfit · 27/10/2021 07:46

Ill let you know when i have spoke to them

pigsDOfly · 29/10/2021 18:48

@Housewife2010

Yet there also seems to be a trend to drop words, e.g people are now saying "bring it with". What's happened to the "me"?
I don't think 'bring it with' is particularly new.

My exh who is 85 was using that expression since before I met him in 1968, as have his whole family.

It used to drive me mad. I always assumed it was a London thing - he grew up in the east end of London - I've never heard anyone other than his family use it.

IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 29/10/2021 18:56

How we speaketh changes ov'r time

butterpuffed · 02/11/2021 07:51

'Beach ready', 'Autumn ready' . Can't bear them.

Haven't heard 'Christmas ready' yet but am sure it will creep in before the end of November. Hmm

ivykaty44 · 30/10/2022 09:47

looking at many of the examples, they are very descriptive and that is what North Americans seem to do with the English language. where contact would be used - reach out is used, swap out, exchange would be easier

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 30/10/2022 11:56

butterpuffed · 02/11/2021 07:51

'Beach ready', 'Autumn ready' . Can't bear them.

Haven't heard 'Christmas ready' yet but am sure it will creep in before the end of November. Hmm

'Oven ready' (when applied to Brexit!)

JohnrRoberts · 28/08/2025 14:32

Reading other forum comments, Americans defensively explain 'swap out' as meaning to replace something permanently, eg. an old car battery that is being replaced by a new car battery, with the old one being discarded. In this case, 'replace' would do just as well.

However, I have seen on car videos where they 'swap out' a dud battery for another one they have in the garage (but not a new one). It's just an idiom, like Australians used to say 'fair dinkum', when 'dinkum' would have sufficed (sadly all Aussie colloquialisms will be replaced by Americanisms within the next 100 years and Australian English will cease to exist).

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/08/2025 00:16

JohnrRoberts · 28/08/2025 14:32

Reading other forum comments, Americans defensively explain 'swap out' as meaning to replace something permanently, eg. an old car battery that is being replaced by a new car battery, with the old one being discarded. In this case, 'replace' would do just as well.

However, I have seen on car videos where they 'swap out' a dud battery for another one they have in the garage (but not a new one). It's just an idiom, like Australians used to say 'fair dinkum', when 'dinkum' would have sufficed (sadly all Aussie colloquialisms will be replaced by Americanisms within the next 100 years and Australian English will cease to exist).

Swap out (or swap in) is also used when you are just switching components in IT, for example, You can swap out the lower memory in a nicer colleague's computer and stick it in the computer of the person that barks orders at you - or you can swap in the upgraded RAM into the nice person's computer (and the barker gets 4Gb as a reward for their people skills).

The differentiation is from the observer's POV.

No need to be defensive about it - it's not necessarily permanent and it's certainly not guaranteed that the original component is being discarded.

Cattenberg · 29/08/2025 12:02

I find the use of "wait on" for "wait" particularly annoying as it has a different meaning.

Cattenberg · 29/08/2025 12:04

butterpuffed · 02/11/2021 07:51

'Beach ready', 'Autumn ready' . Can't bear them.

Haven't heard 'Christmas ready' yet but am sure it will creep in before the end of November. Hmm

You may indeed have invented the term "Christmas ready"! Perhaps you should trademark it in case it takes off.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/08/2025 13:39

Cattenberg · 29/08/2025 12:04

You may indeed have invented the term "Christmas ready"! Perhaps you should trademark it in case it takes off.

McDonalds already had "Reindeer Ready" a couple of years ago , so they might take umbrage Grin

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/08/2025 13:44

The phrase that makes me inwardly wince is "Hey Guys / You Guys" to a mixed age/mixed sex group ., if someone comes to our Team Meeting So , hello you guys , I;m Barry from xyz Pharmaceuticals

I am female and on the upper limits of middle age .
I am not , never have been and never will be A Guy .

I bite the inside of my face and eyeroll ( not a pretty sight)

Cattenberg · 29/08/2025 14:20

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 29/08/2025 13:39

McDonalds already had "Reindeer Ready" a couple of years ago , so they might take umbrage Grin

Maybe that won't matter. I remember my dad telling me back in the 90s, that someone once trademarked the name "21st Century Fox", This made the film corporation, 20th Century Fox, quite unhappy, but I believe they ended up making this person a generous offer.

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