To ask where this stupid phrase has come from?

[Bluesheep8]

"Swap out"
Why the addition of the word 'out' ?
I was in a restaurant last week and heard someone say "can I swap out the chips for new potatoes?"
The word swap says all that's needed surely? It just makes no sense

Same with ‘switch up’

They seem to be of the same ilk as the absolute bugbear ‘off of’

It’s American I think

Someone on another thread identified the etymology as being from tech, where swap out and swap in had specific meanings. (Though I found that stupid as why couldn’t tech just use… swap?)

I’m not at all keen on it, but it’s everywhere, not just swap: I’ve seen paint out, style it out, stall out (a car), etc. I think the “any verb + out” construct is American, I follow a lot of stylists and interiors blogs that use it. But it’s rife here too, along with my personal bugbear, “print off”.

“Fry off” bugs me no end too…

Yet there also seems to be a trend to drop words, e.g people are now saying "bring it with". What's happened to the "me"?

Same with 'Park up'. It's just park.

It doesn’t irritate me as much as the construct: “It needs sorted” and the like (instead of “”It needs to be sorted out”. That one seems peculiarly British.

Oh. I say these I'll need to have a word with myself. Peace out.

‘Change it up’ used to drive me mad in the days when The X-Factor was big.

Tulisa/Rita Ora/token younger judge who gets replaced by a retuning Louis Walsh after one series: ‘Yeah, I do love that song, it’s a classic, but really if you want to stand out on a show like this you need to change it up a bit’.

Where does the ‘it up’ come from?

To be honest it does clarify which item you specifically don't want to avoid any confusion.

It's American, I assume people are picking it up from food blogs and cooking shows etc

A swap file is used to create extra virtual memory on a hard disk. Memory in this context is the faster RAM which programs use to store themselves and their data when running. When RAM starts to fill up, the operating system will swap -out the least used parts of RAM to the relatively slower hard drive.

Fuck knows what that has to do with swapping chips for new potatoes.

@Nesbo

It doesn’t irritate me as much as the construct: “It needs sorted” and the like (instead of “”It needs to be sorted out”. That one seems peculiarly British.

I notice that so much on here (I’m not British or UK-based) and always find it grating.

The other recent one that irritates me is “going in with”, usually on cookery programmes.
“Now that the onion is done, I’m just going in with the garlic”.

Gaaaaaaaah.

@Nesbo

It doesn’t irritate me as much as the construct: “It needs sorted” and the like (instead of “”It needs to be sorted out”. That one seems peculiarly British.

OMG so much this one.

you need to change it up a bit

Ah that's like You took that song and made it your own aka you murdered a classic song with your caterwalling

In Viz they used to quote "Lemmy out of Motorhead" "Bruce Dickinson out of Iron Maiden" ’.

It came from 'Merica.

USA

See also transportation instead of transport.

I have also heard 'Bleeding out', it's just bleeding!! It annoys me too, this adding 'out ' to things.

'Station stop' is another when travelling on public transport.

It's a station, or it's a stop. It's not both.

@Nesbo

It doesn’t irritate me as much as the construct: “It needs sorted” and the like (instead of “”It needs to be sorted out”. That one seems peculiarly British.

Or even, ‘It needs sorting out.’

AFAIK ‘needs done’, ‘needs washed’ etc. were originally Scottish quirks and so perfectly acceptable, but they’ve spread like the bloody pandemic.

@StormOfSekhmet

I have also heard 'Bleeding out', it's just bleeding!! It annoys me too, this adding 'out ' to things.

Bled out is specific to die from loss of blood, so bleeding out is very different to just bleeding.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/bleed-out

Switch out is particularly irritating too but not as bad as 'needs gone.'

‘What can I style this with’ has me a bit

Why not just say what can I wear this with?

Station stop makes sense, the train could stop for a variety of reasons, mostly to do with signalling, before reaching a scheduled station stop.