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Apostrophe question

14 replies

Cucumberscarecrow · 16/04/2014 20:10

Mr Bates's coat or Mr Bates' coat.

OP posts:
NotAnotherPackedLunchBox · 16/04/2014 20:13

Mr Bates' coat

Primrose123 · 16/04/2014 20:13

I think both are correct aren't they?

CuntyBunny · 16/04/2014 20:13

Mr Bate's coat.

If there was one boy with several coats, it would be the boy's coats.

If there were two boys with several coats, it would be the boys' coats.

Think of boy's as something belonging to one boy.

Think of boys' as something(s) belonging to more than one boy.

Does that make sense?

CuntyBunny · 16/04/2014 20:14

Only if there were several Mr Bates would something belonging to them mean it was Mr Bates'.

CuntyBunny · 16/04/2014 20:15

Sorry, I totally missed the extra "s" there Blush

DadDadDad · 16/04/2014 22:46

Congratulations, everyone, on maturely getting through that without one smirky comment about his son, Master Bates. Wink

RuthlessBaggage · 16/04/2014 23:18

Bates is a name; Bate isn't.

It's easier to think of Jones, usually, or James.

You probably say Joneziz and Jameziz, so you should write both instances of "s":

Jones's
James's

But if there are multiple Joneses or Jameses...

The Joneses' holiday home is on Anglesey.
All the Jameses' exercise books have been muddled up.

IHeartKingThistle · 16/04/2014 23:20

Ruthless that is correct but it's the more old-fashioned usage. James' and James' is an equally acceptable (and much more streamlined!) alternative.

So, OP, either would be fine.

IHeartKingThistle · 16/04/2014 23:20

Sorry meant to say Jones' and James'!

Skygirls · 16/04/2014 23:34

Does this help?

Apostrophe question
Skygirls · 16/04/2014 23:36

Sorry, that's not clear, is it? Here's the link instead....rule 2

m.grammarbook.com/punctuation-rules/apostrophes.aspx

SconeRhymesWithGone · 17/04/2014 01:15

Bate is a name.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bate_(surname)

RuthlessBaggage · 17/04/2014 08:08

Fair enough! Much less common than Bates though.

Jone and Jame definitely aren't names.

MirandaWest · 17/04/2014 08:14

Is it Mr Bate or Mr Bates? If it is Bate then it should be Mr Bate's. If it is Bates it can be either Bates' or Bates's.

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