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Difference between 'infer' and 'imply'

55 replies

NoVittyAte · 14/03/2011 22:01

I'm currently enduring a dreadful Jason Statham action-flick. He has just been interrogating a suspect, who said she "...didn't do nothing".

Statham sneerily replies "You didn't do anything- 'didn't do nothing' is a double negative: it infers a positive."

It doesn't 'infer' anything, it implies that, you arsehat.

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BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:04

Ah, that's better. I name-changed for Chaos's nunfight thread and hadn't got round to switching back.

MavisEnderby · 14/03/2011 22:10

Love the moniker NoVittyAte,but am too stoopid to get diff between infer and imply Blushand have been contemplating the two words.

[goes to Google]

I am thick :(

WhatsWrongWithYou · 14/03/2011 22:12

< Impressed >

SnowdropsMakeMeSmile · 14/03/2011 22:15

I would agree, she would infer a positive, because that's what was implied.

BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:15

Do I get a Super-Pedant award? Grin

Mavis, 'infer' is a bit like 'deduce' or 'conclude'. So, somebody might imply that I am a nit-picking twat, but unless I inferred that from what they said, I would be too obtuse to be offended (thanks, WhatsWrongWithYou Grin).

SnowdropsMakeMeSmile · 14/03/2011 22:17

Sorry he would infer the positive

SpeedyGonzalez · 14/03/2011 22:17

'infer' is like deduce, ain't it? Whereas 'imply' is to give the impression that...

I am wondering why you're watching Jason Statham, BIF. This implies that you're somewhat lacking in grey matter. But I infer from your exceptional lexicon that this is not the case Grin.

MavisEnderby · 14/03/2011 22:18

Ah I love Google.All is clear!(Worryingly though,I accidentally clicked on the ads above the dictionary definition and came up with an advert for brassieres.Weird.)

WhatsWrongWithYou · 14/03/2011 22:18

So, am I right, to infer is to draw a conclusion as a result of what's been implied?

Quattrocento · 14/03/2011 22:19

Oh that's one of my pet hates . Cannot stand people not knowing the difference between infer and imply.

BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:20

Snowdrop; he said that "it" (i.e. the double negative) inferred, not that he inferred, IYSWIM. So he was wrong.

Speedy- not my viewing choice, I assure you Grin

GrimmaTheNome · 14/03/2011 22:21

That's it.

And I am curiously cheered by the use of the full word 'brassiere' from someone called Mavis. A Mavis wouldn't ever just say 'bra'. Grin

BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:21

Whoops- erroneous use of a semi-colon there, sorry. I meant to use the humble comma .

MavisEnderby · 14/03/2011 22:23

Quattro,I am sorry.:(

HouseOfBamboo · 14/03/2011 22:24

And people often think they're being terribly clever by saying infer when they mean imply, which makes it EVEN WORSE. Grr.

ShowOfHands · 14/03/2011 22:24

Jason Statham can speak in sentences? Wow.

I think expecting anything beyond that is optimistic tbh.

SpeedyGonzalez · 14/03/2011 22:24

Arf at Grimma!

BOF, am I right to infer that a large g&t wouldn't go amiss right now?

GrimmaTheNome · 14/03/2011 22:25

(wonders if BOF has gone in search of a colon, which might have been acceptable in place of the semi...)

BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:26

I did feel that the scriptwriters were fundamentally misunderstanding the casting to make him not merely an FBI agent, but also The Grammer Police (sic), Showy...

SpeedyGonzalez · 14/03/2011 22:26

Hilariously Statham was clearly trying to sound smart!

BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:27

Good point, Grimma. It's up here somewhere.

thefirstMrsDeVere · 14/03/2011 22:27

This thread is about ME isnt it? Go on admit it! As soon as I used the word 'infer' on the pants thread I got a dry mouth and sweaty palms because I KNEW i would be found out.

I DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

I only got 4 O levels.

BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:31

Are you a tough-talking yet grammatically-challenged FBI agent, MrsDeVere? No? Then you are excused Grin

It wasn't even the fact he got it wrong- it was getting it wrong while trying to be pedantic which got my goat. As HouseOfBamboo said, it really grates.

ShowOfHands · 14/03/2011 22:33

Oh the idea of Jason Statham attempting a grasp of the English language. The possibilities are endless.

"Die, die like a bitch. And that's a metaphor."

No tosspot, it's a simile.

BitOfFun · 14/03/2011 22:34
Grin
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