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My kids are freeloaders.

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Dilraj68 · 16/05/2022 19:02

Would you insist on your adult children who live with you to contribute to the household expenses?

I haven't broached the subject yet but two of my three kids are earning. DD1 who's 23, works in a good city firm and a part time retail job so she does the odd shopping now and again and will always ask me if I need anything if she's on her way home from work. She has ADHD.

DS1 works only part time but has never asked or contributed to anything into the home. He will never replace something that he uses most of and will wait until I stock up. He will expect me to give him some cash if I need some milk or bread, he wouldn't offer. In short, they don't bring much into the house but they don't save money either, using utilities unnecessarily and wasting resources. They are eating me out of the house and don't think twice or offer to replace finished items. He has ADHD.

DD2 who's 22, is at uni and spends her student finance allowance money like water and shops online for ridiculously expensive face care products. She's not working and will be under my feet until September with no intention of finding a job. She says she has social anxiety trembles at the thought of going out to find work. She's driving me insane with her lazy attitude. She will stock up on junk food and stash it in her room so she doesn't need to come downstairs. Pissing me off.

Their rooms are a pigsty (another story ) and I jus feel so overwhelmed with managing everything on my own as I'm a single mum. I don't earn much and everything I do earn goes straight onto the bills and I never actually 'see' my money until it's all gone and I end up living off my overdraft. It's the same old story every month.

I don't want my kids to feel like they're living in a bed and breakfast but I also feel like they should help me out financially, I had two jobs by the time I was 18 and haven't stopped working since I turned 17. I have a strong work ethic and I hoped they would too.

DD3 is only 13 and I'm concerned that she's going to fall into this trap of not having the need to work because mummy does everything.

Am I expecting too much? Is it wrong to expect them to take life seriously and contribute? I'm so close to asking the unemployed one to either find a job or go and live with her dad so she'll know which side the grass is greener on. Here she has everything at her disposal.

I've never had disposable cash as everything goes onto bills directly from my direct debits. I can't even afford to give them cash on their birthdays and last week, they told me he gave them £40 each from their dad who never paid maintenance until I took him to court. He has no child rearing expenses, no rent to pay (sheltered housing) no clothes or food to buy for the kids so he gets off easily and can afford to do that. That makes me feel very inadequate as a mum who's struggling. I've never even been abroad for a holiday let alone somewhere local. Just feel like running away sometimes and not be a mum for a few days.

I'm 54 next week and I just feel sooo depressed with no money and a huge burden on me.

Keyboard warriors, please refrain from bashing me with negative comments. Thank you.

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Crispynoodle · 16/05/2022 21:15

So you get HB, UC and have 2 part time jobs. You have adult children living there who have jobs. I don't understand why the benefits people haven't investigated and informed your children that they have to contribute something (am genuinely asking the question)

Thelikelylass · 16/05/2022 21:31

My youngest wanted to come back home to live with me - didn't finish college in the city where she stayed with her dad. I was very clear and typed the words 'non-negotiables' to her. They were a} she didn't return until she had a job b) she paid rent of £200 per month and c) she did half the housework with me. I work full-time.
She railed against getting a job, wanted to come back her without a job but I knew where that would end. Me working and commuting full time, paying all bills and doing all housework.
Four years on she is about to travel the world, she's saved a fortune. She paid her rent every month without any complaint and always buys extra food, brings me flowers. She appreciates it all now. Set those parameters OP and don't deviate from them.

Dilraj68 · 16/05/2022 21:32

JolieJ · 16/05/2022 20:55

Are you Asian OP? Because this level of self sacrifice is common with Asian parents, but its not right.

Your children should be stepping up now, and you need to put your foot down and make it happen.

Yes, I'm of Pakistani heritage and this is very common in our culture. Kids don't move out until they get married. My mistake here is that I've over compensated on my love and devotion cos I'm a single mum.

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GettingItOutThere · 16/05/2022 21:32

erm yes. full time jobs they shoul dbe tipping up 250 a month if on NMW MINIMUM!

they need to also start acting like adults and tidy their rooms! stop being passive OP and get active and make them grow up

HelloSpringIveMissedYou · 16/05/2022 21:38

Think I'll move in OP!

They are massively taking the piss, they possibly don't even realise.

You all need to sit down and discuss the household bills, if they won't contribute time for them to move out.

Limer · 16/05/2022 21:39

Kids don't move out until they get married.

In that case, get some rules around monetary contributions and household chores set up ASAP. You could have many years ahead of this. Use the excellent pointers that many previous posters have already outlined.

Ponderingwindow · 16/05/2022 21:40

I would be subsidizing the one at university and expecting all other adults to be covering their own expenses and paying rent. Also there should be a minimum standard for cleanliness of private spaces like food bas d refuses and dishes removed once a day, and trash removed once a week. Must be vacuumed at least once a month. Really bare minimum. Shared spaces everyone should clean up messes as they are made and then deep cleaning is either a cleaning rota or everyone pays into a fund to hire a cleaner. (We did this in student accommodation and split between multiple people it was cheap and saved so much arguing)

it’s not about the money, it’s about teaching them to act like adults .

Jemdaruna · 16/05/2022 21:46

Also have a look on Spare Room website to see how much renting a room in a shared house would cost them just so they have a comparison to living at home, ie a bedroom which is theirs but shared kitchen/lounge etc.

And no you are not asking too much, they are very selfish to not have offered in the first place. I would write down a list of all the outgoing bills and get them to guess how much everything costs. My children have known how much bills are since secondary school.

They should be sharing the housework and cooking family meals on a rota.

Dilraj68 · 16/05/2022 22:16

Thank you for your advice really appreciated. I will be talking them at the weekend.

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User6761 · 16/05/2022 22:24

Me and my sister both paid 10% of our income to our parents as soon as we were working full time. My parents didn't 'need' the money but it was a good life lesson and we felt like we were contributing to the household albeit in a very small way. We both left home in our early-mid 20s.

1Wanda1 · 16/05/2022 22:31

Good God reading your post depressed me OP. Absolutely your adult children should be contributing, and it's not even about whether you can afford to pay for everything or not. They have to learn that adult life involves paying for your essential expenditure first and THEN spending your money for fun if you have any left.

My DS left school after A levels saying he didn't want to go to uni. I was fine with that, but said he'd need to get a job straight away. He didn't want to do any of the things I suggested he consider (apprenticeships etc) and got a retail job on not much above minimum wage. Maybe he was on about £1100 monthly take home. He paid £385 a month towards his living expenses. As reference, in the town we live in, a bare room in someone else's house Is £800 a month to rent. His dad (who hasn't paid a penny of child maintenance in years) was "outraged".

Funnily enough DS decided life was a bit limiting with less than £700 a month disposable income and went to uni a year later. I'm a senior lawyer in London and my disposable income after mortgage and bills is less than £400. I'm 46! Children need to learn about life and what it costs. If I could live rent free on minimum wage I'd bloody jump at it - would be far better off than I am now. Don't feel guilty for a second. Make them contribute like the adults they think they are.

LuckySantangelo35 · 16/05/2022 22:50

Refreshing answers on this thread!

usually it’s all - ‘oh I could never ask my kids for rent, this is their home’ and ‘it’s so hard for young people these days, whyyy wouldn’t you want to help them’ and ‘they’re your children, not your lodger’ and ‘they’re your children, they didn’t ask to be born!’. Or ridiculous suggestions from again the privileged mumsnetters, those who ask for rent but who secretly save it all up to give back to them when they move out.

happy to see none of that bullshit on here!

SpindleInTheWind · 16/05/2022 23:04

Dilraj68 · 16/05/2022 22:16

Thank you for your advice really appreciated. I will be talking them at the weekend.

Good.

dropthevipers · 16/05/2022 23:14

Dilraj68 · 16/05/2022 22:16

Thank you for your advice really appreciated. I will be talking them at the weekend.

Let us know how it goes-expect a steep learning curve to take place as this may well be news to them.

Lysianthus · 16/05/2022 23:20

Dilraj68 · 16/05/2022 22:16

Thank you for your advice really appreciated. I will be talking them at the weekend.

Perhaps read this thread out loud to them! Good luck OP

knowinglesseveryday · 16/05/2022 23:21

Mine do. I think it's important for them too, and anyway when I didn't, she spent all her income and saved nothing.

Dilraj68 · 17/05/2022 06:06

Your advice has given me a huge massive wake up call.

I'm going to start small and tell them from now on, they do their own laundry. They select a day and keep that just for this purpose.

It's so hurtful that they have the gall to ask why I'm always tired, they've not got a clue!! Gone will be the days when I'm washing and hanging out their smalls. I'm a bit of a control freak, I hate mess and untidiness in the house and will tidy their mess or do their part of the chores because it's quicker. Not anymore. I'm so done with this shit.

My eldest who's got the corporate job is only there until September when she starts her post graduate studies so will just have the small retail job. She'll still e earning. Fed up of paying for every single utility, Netflix, TV licence (they now want the Disney channel).

The icing on the cake was yesterday when they both spent £250 each on a brand new Emma mattress.

I'm totally livid and fuming 😡😡😡

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ivykaty44 · 17/05/2022 06:23

Mine both contributed to the household from 18, not a large amount but a regular amount.

They both help with household chores

one is still home and they pay for tv subscription and internet.

i sat down and showed them the bills, council tax and explained it needs to be shared over all the adults living in the home.

they may like fashion and makeup but for one adult to have all the luxuries at the expense of another is unkind

ChairCareOh · 17/05/2022 06:47

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loislovesstewie · 17/05/2022 06:47

And when you have sorted the finances out with them, take to your bed for a couple of days because you need a rest. Tell them you are exhausted, and they need to look after you.

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worriedaboutmoney2022 · 17/05/2022 06:59

@Dilraj68

Sit them all down and tell them they are grown ups now and that you can't keep on like it so they need to organise something as your giving notice on the house and renting something smaller and cheaper and it's time they stand on their own 2 feet
If they're well enough to hold down jobs they can live independently
You've done your bit there has to be a cut off point

MermaidSwimming · 17/05/2022 07:09

They definitely need to start paying rent but if you haven't declared their incomes on your housing benefits then I think your claim is wrong. We had to add dc1 income when he left education and our money stopped due to household income rising

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 17/05/2022 07:14

Of course they should be contributing! Sit them down and tell them they are to pay a percentage of what they earn or they can always find somewhere they can rent together

ImAvingOops · 17/05/2022 07:27

I could have written this post a little while ago. I have 2 adult kids living with me and the girlfriend of one of them (due to horrible family circumstances). At one point I was paying for everything because they were all in ft education, and it was so expensive.
They are working now, so I ask one of them to contribute £30 per week towards his food cost and the other son (with gf) buy and cook all their own food and do their own laundry. Both kids pay their own phone bills and ds2 runs a car and is good with giving lifts and getting in the odd bit of shopping if I ask.
But I'm cross because other DS and gf were supposed to be saving half of everything they earn so that they can move out and it turns out they've saved nothing. Gf has gone full time at work to get saving now but I feel like they've taken the piss because that was not our initial agreement. They claim to be broke but there have been plenty of skincare and Amazon parcels! Meanwhile, find as I am of gf it is hard having an extra person in a house where space is at a premium and electricity bills are through the roof!
I think you have to set a monthly contribution from the kids who have jobs. You shouldn't be struggling while they have money to burn on luxuries