Would you continue or postpone?

[mummylonglegs]

Sorry, this is my 3rd message on this board .

I decided to try to properly potty train dd this weekend as I have 4 solid days home with her. She's 2 1/2 and has been able to wee and poo on the potty and occasionally the toilet since she was just turned 2. She's been ok these last few days when she's at home and in her knickers, but the moment she's in more clothes or we pop out somewhere she totally forgets and just goes in her clothes. I'm also concerned that she seems to need to still do quite small quite frequent wees. So I can get her to wee on the potty before we nip out but after an hour or less on one occasion she'll do another wee in her clothes.

What do you think? Should I postpone or continue? She's only had 5 wee accidents in total since Friday morning when we started, and has done all her poos at home on the potty. I'm in no mad rush to train her but at the same time don't want to miss the opportunity if she's ready.

Oh forgot to say when ds was trained as xmas (before totally regressing ) he would wee alot at home but be able to go out for a short trip and back without weeing. I supoose it's where they feel comfortable but in order to train the bladder the trips out are important I guess.

She did fine today Pm, thanks for asking. But she didn't do a wee at all between 1.30pm before her nap and nearly 7pm this evening! She's a bit under the weather at the moment and not eating and barely drinking which could partly account for it. I kept thinking she must be bursting for a wee but when she did go it wasn't that big.

Your ds sounds like he's doing well too. What was the major regression all about by the way?

He basically was trained only becuase he got a playgroup place which meant he had to be clean and dry. I only had 4 weeks notice but he was totally dry and cean by the time he started. Within a week he started having little wee accidents and then (horror) pooing his pants. I gave in and put him back in pull ups. Apparently it's not unusual to have some regression when routine changes but it was a shame as he had done so well. Hows your dd feeling today?

Yes, I can imagine regressions at a playgroup because they don't know who to go to to ask if they need the toilet etc. and I do think there's a bit of embarrassment, dd was definitely shy about going in front of her childminder.

Dd's ok, I think she's suffering the mumps reaction to the mmr as it's 3 weeks after the jab and she says her neck's sore and she's got a fever.

BUT, this morning, after almost 4 days accident free, a little voice comes out of the kitchen to say 'oh dear, I've just done a wee all over the floor' ... So we're obviously not in the clear yet!

I would expect the odd accident for the next month though so don't get disheartened. When dd was potty trained she would have about 1 accident a week in the house but never had an accident outside the house. With ds the problem is the play group is in a church hall and so they have adult size loos and steps up to them. It is an awful lot for him to manage to get up the step, turn round, pull down trousers and pants and sit on the loo with his willy in properly . I expect many accidents next week when he goes back there. They should have potties imho but don't have the staff to empty them and clean them I suppose. The next thing is stand up wees - should be amusing but don't know when to start. Girls are easier that way

That must be VERY hard for him to get used to using those toilets! There's no way dd could do that on her own just yet.

Actually I think standing wees seem like a very handy thing.

Dd's not done well at all today. Non-stop accidents suddenly. No idea why ...

Can one have a minor regression after just 1 week?!

The novelty maybe wearing off so just keep encouraging her firmly . Ds has been fine today. We even went to the park with the portable potty and he pooed next to a tree (into the potty). However, tomorrow's another day, have learnt not to be smug mother after last regression . I bet your dd is back on track in a day or so. Is she better or still a little under the weather?

I think she's a bit better. She's eaten a bit today at last. But she hasn't had a poo for 2 days now, not sure if that's to do with potty anxiety or her not eating much, maybe a bit of both. She did a bit better this afternoon remembering to wee on the potty but it's also shown me not to be 'smug mummy' either!

Your ds sounds like he's doing excellently! Is he pleased with himself?

Incidentally Pm, did your ds have days where he did small regressions when you trained him before? I mean before the major problem of playgroup?

Yeah, he's happy but getting a bit ahead of himself and tried sitting on the "big" toilet and nearly disappeared down it at bath time tonight. This made dd 4.6 yo sit on ds's potty and do a wee (bit old for regression surely ). No doubt we'll have an accident or two tomorrow from ds. Until he's clean and dry with no accidents for a fortnight I'm not celebrating

MLL, yes I remember ds would achieve a whole day with no accidents only to have several the next. I do think the initial interest wears off a little and they have to be convinced this isn't an option it's the future so to speak. I think ds thought he just had to be potty trained to get into the playgroup but once he was there he could have nappies again. All the reminding them must get boring to them as well so in letting them decide when to go on their own there of course will be accidents, especially if they are distracted with toys/playing. Just have to keep at it really.

Lots of accidents today, so my turn to despair . He had no accidents yesterday grrr!

Thanks Pinotmum, your advice is keeping me going! Having said that, we've had an accident-free morning although every time dd's used the potty it's been after I've suggested it. We also had an 'interesting' development in her waking at 5am and yelling 'mummy!!! Please can I do a wee?' which she did, then insisted on sleeping with me on the fold-out bed in her room!! Still, it meant we got a lie-in until nearly 8am this morning ...

And STILL no poo. This is the 3rd day. A bit worrying really.

Just make sure she's having lots of fluids and hopefully she'll produce one. I would have thought she'd do it in her nappy if she was deliberately holding on though.

Yes, the only time she's in a nappy at the moment is at night and for naps. Nap nappy is dry as a bone, bedtime nappy is wet as a fish! I'm hoping this afternoon will see a 'result' after a lunch including much wholemeal bread, broccoli and juice!

Fingers crossed

Success! An elephant sized poo!!

Ooh, bet she felt better after that

I did, even if she didn't! Actually she said she did, she said: 'My tummy feels really nice now mum' so I'm hoping that will be incentive to do it again. Nothing today so far ...

How's your weekend going?

He's pretty awful this weekend. Just as well the weathers good for getting the washing dry. I was seriously tempted to give up this morning but am doing the pasta jar incentive - handful of pasta into a jar for every wee/poo and when the jar's full a reward. See how long that lasts .

What happens when he's 'awful', Pinotmum? Does he just keep forgetting to tell you and wetting his clothes? Or is it that he rebels against using the potty when you ask him to?

Dd's been fine today. Same as yesterday, a huge poo right at the very end of the day, just after 7pm so her bedtimes have been a bit later. I can tell she's gearing up to a bowel production because she goes quite crazy and unfocused, throwing herself round the room until she suddenly yells out 'I got a poo!' races to the potty and it's out in less than a minute. Ideally it would be good if she did it in a slightly more relaxed way but hey, so long as she's doing it and it's in the right place, I can't complain can I?

I'm still finding I have to prompt fairly regularly for wees too. Again she'd leave it to the very last moment if she could ...

Lol at your dd's bowel movement buidl up. Well ds has been awful. Started fine yesterday morning. We took dd to ballet and he used the toilets at the hall. He was dry till about 11 am and then one after another, accident, accident. Decided to leave off trousers, then pants. He ended up "hosing" the stairs and would have continued like that had I not told him he was going back in nappies. He doesn't want to be in nappies but won't wee in the potty. Today I have prompted more and introduced the pasta jar incentive. He's been a bit tired today as his top molars are just coming through so left him in trainers after his nap but prompted him to go to the potty. The trainers (pull-ups) were wet though. I'll keep going but really feel like giving up (head in hands emoticon)

Oh, keep going Pm. You know he can do it and it sounds like he's more deliberately not doing it than being not able, which will be a battle that you'll have to face at some point anyway, no? I wish I had some really good advice to give you but being such a damned novice I'm afraid I don't.

Dd's getting her 3rd big back molar through too at the moment and has been ultra-clingy. We met some friends at the park this morning and she spent the whole time being carried by me while friend's ds (same age) went mad on slides, swings, etc.

Had a nice little idea this afternoon re. the portapotty. It's a great little thing but paying for those inserts is a bit of a pain so I told dd if, when we're out in the park, she sits on it with no insert in it, she can wee straight onto the grass. She loved the idea (having seen me once in dire straits wee on the grass in the park behind a bush ) so did her first real al fresco wee!