OMG - Ive just watched new Jamie Oliver Prog and cant believe a 5 year old's fave meal is a Kebab!!!!

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I felt soooooooooo guilty the other day as in a md rush I gave my 3 year old fresh pasta nad pesto followed by strawberries, grapes and apple slices....After watching JO's new programme I feel totally relieved.

Im not a great cook but would never, never, never feed my 3 year old kebab meat or chips and cheese from a take a way!!!!

I eat kebabs. I drive 30 miles for it though, to a proper turkish place that makes it how it is supposed to be. Lovely tender marinated chicken and lamb.

I do indian sometimes too, but only from the sort of places where Indian people eat, where they serve indian food how it is made in India. Usually I make it at home.

I'm going off chinese takeaways since I started learning how to make that at home.

Maybe JO needs to teach them how to make their beloved takeouts properly, how they really should taste, at home. That bloody donner looked like strips of leather.

I don't mind the occasional kebab, but the Aussie version is better, the meat is the same but they are loaded up with salad and garlic mayonnaise, yuuummmeh.

We have takeaway sometimes and are all in good health, everything in moderation. Just returned from a week in the US where DS had some chips almost everyday (and his mother had at least one margerita a day). Why not?

A little of this a little of that - life is a lot more interesting when you don't obsess about stuff.

For the record my son often has what we call a snack plate for tea, not every meal has to be a hot one, IMO some fruit/raw veg/hommous and toast etc are a just fine dinner.

You should try a proper kebab.

Anyway, on the other thread someone did a link to the Guardian review of Ministry of Food which I thought was interesting.

ive never had a meat kebab i have had vegetable one

There are lot of Turkish cafes near where I live. Their kebabs are just pieces of lamb or chicken, not processed stuff, and is served with bread and/or rice not chips. Lots of salads and 'dips' too.

onthe prog they had a donner kebab tho
slightly different

naily, not that kind of kebab

one that looks like (er, in fact is) meat

with heaps of salad

and flatbread

cooked in front of me

for when I'm being a lazy mare

bought pesto is cack would rather have tinned tomatoes, onions, garlic, ready in 5 mins

cod, have you stopped takeaways because of dh's cholesterol?

My dh and dd love proper chicken kebabs - very healthy too. But they wouldnt touch that gunge on the pole ever!

Yes but what I'm trying to explain is that a real Doner kebab isn't made of crap.

The ones you usually see were actually developed to suit German tastes by Turkish immigrants.

I used to go into the infant school to 'cook' with the dc once a week - we'd weigh and mix the flour butter etc for a birthday cake. the idea was that the dc with a birthday that week would get a slice of cake at a special assembly in the morning. Anyway, 2 kids would mix the cake and 2 would 'ice' it (ie chuck e-number sprinkles at it) - teaching them a bit of cooking along the way. I was told that I couldn;t do this any more, as the Jamie Oliver/Healthy eating idea is that a slice of home-made iced cake at breakfst is wrong and not healthy.

So there you are. It's jamies fault in the first place that we can't cook.

i thought a doner kebab was the pole thing

right yes i thought they were meat

crystal kebabs on holloway rd (allegedly The Best Kebas in London - heaps of old turkish blokes in there) has a kebab on a stick but it's assembled from chunks (not mushed or shaped) of chicken or lamb. with stuff (peppers, onions) in between. tis a work of art and the salads are to die for. they do pide too.

100% lamb can mean eyelids and arses too
its still part of the lamb

nothot - i get so fucked off when people tell me my children cant eat cake. we all need sugar and butter in our diet. just not truckloads of it
ARGH that makes me so angry

I don't understand people who say they don't know how to cook - surely we have wall-to-wall cookery progs, cook books everywhere, jars of pesto in the cupboard. It really isn't hard. And there are instructions on the packets, and even recipes and serving suggestions sometimes.

Its lack of interest, not lack of money/time/skills.

All the kebabs you can eat!

Here's a history of the doner kebab

naily there was a fab prog recently about disgusting food - apparently eyelids, arseholes etc aren't allowed even in those crap "value" sausages (they get round the meat thing by calling them Bangers)

Is it so bad though to use ALL of the animal? Seems a better option than wasting it IMO. If it is all mushed up and tastes OK then what is the big deal?

'i do agree
a lot of it is down to uter laziness'

a lot of it is.

but if you come right out and say that you get shot down.

DH summed it up, 'some people will use every excuse in the book except the truth: they just can't be arsed.'

you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

it's the government, public transport, society, depression, lack of education, bad upbringing, benefits, poverty, addiction, stress, time and oh the poor dears everyone is such a snob.

yes, life is hard.

it's even harder when you give up at the first hurdle.

fio my grandparents lived in a tiny two up two down with outside loo and no bath in London until they were too infirm and had to move to sheltered housing. My grandad drove a bus.

I used to love going there as they had chickens and rabbits in the (tiny) back garden (for food!), a veg patch and nan cooked fab meals constantly. I particularly remember Egg in a Cup which was - erm, an egg in a cup. given before bedtime. Lovely.