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[TattooedGrrrl]

Here we go again- join here if you have 2 or more kids under the age of 3. Feel free to update / whinge / look for advice / gloat about how sleep you've had

For any newbies, I have 2 boys, aged 2yrs and almost 9mths.

Morning all

Just to let you know, we got on OK at the hospital yesterday. DD2 was poked and proded by 3 different people but the good news is she doesn't have retinoblastoma (a tumour behind the eye) but she does have some underdeveloped blood vessels in her eyes, which should resolve, but they want to see her again in 6 months.

She was as good as gold, despite being held down by me, having her head held still and her eyes held forced open while the consultant shone a bright light in them for what was about 2 mins on each eye....she screamed the place down but was fine as soon as he stopped. I wanted him to be thorough (obviously) but I was so close to saying 'hurry up FFS!!!'.

Lucky - what a releif that there is no tumour

Welcome SweetKitty!!

Ds's last day at playgroup was quite sad Not sure if he realises he is not going back though. He starts pre school after half term.

DD has had a nap of over 2hrs!!

What a relief, LuckyM!

Must do some work now, but I kind-of want to start an AIBU thread about big kids taking over the little kids' play area. Just went to a country park which is usually quiet and great for both DCs in term time, but for no apparent reason a bunch of bigger children turned up (not that big - they had mums in tow) and even dd was too scared to go past the boys throwing sand to get on the little persons' slide... And DS couldn't really do much at all (although I took him on a couple of things).

I know AIBU, but I'm just used to having the place to myself and the DCs . It was probably a MN meet up ...

...We had a nice walk in the woods though.

chaotica beware of starting a AIBU thread....the MN bitches who think it's acceptable ot be as blunt and rude as anything will be out there to make you feel really shit!!

FWIW, I agree with you, it really bugs me too, esp at soft play areas where 7 and 8 year olds are in the toddler area .

Good news LM

I do agree chaotica and when the parents are watching and giggling when their bigger kids are thrashing around in the under 1s soft play, and throwing the littke soft-rocking-thingies around etc...

Well today I had to bathtime on my own and coped reasinably well I have to say. Even with Izzy trying to crawl off the the bed all the time, and wanting anything that Freya was playing with, albeit book, toothbrush (she did not want her own) babywipe.....glad it's all over now.

Am off into town tomorrow with a girlfriend to exchange my beautiful new zara coat for a slightly more practicle zara coat [lost receipt so can only have exchange] have a good weekend all

DP's mum is visiting today... So DP is cleaning an unusual amount. Now I don't really get on with her but this is great . Maybe I should try to persuade her to visit more often...

DCs have already trashed the living room - but it's clean underneath

DCs are probably clean underneath as well

Phew am totally knackered!!

Had 5yr old boy from next door for the day as well as DS (who is not great at sharing ATM cue rows and arguments to referee!!) and DD who whinged ALL day. If anyone has any tips to stop 8mth old whinging/screaming all day would be greatly appreciated

She got so bad I gave her calpol thinking something was hurting ie throat, teeth, ears etc but TBH not convinced....just think she is hard work.

To all of you who have 3 dcs (or more) I take my hats off to you

Evening all

Have survived the visit by the 'outlaws' without incident (and - wow - is our house clean!). Not that it's usually that bad, but I usually do most of the cleaning...

Simpson - you sound exhausted. Don't have any suggestions for screaming and whinging 8m olds - DD was a sweety at that age, and DS sounds like your DD . He's improved at every stage of development: only just sitting at 8m, and so much better now nearly talking and walking. (Think you just have to wait while they get frustrated.) (We thought there might be something wrong as well.) Have to say though that sometimes I presume there's nothing wrong and then find out there is - did the calpol work?

Chaotica - don't know if calpol worked as she went straight to bed after taking it. She normally goes down well anyway so don't know.

But the reason for my is because mid scream from DD DS went outside on bike with boy from next door and me and DD did some singing (well I sang DD laughed ) did wind the bobbin, row the boat etc. And she was the picture of a contented baby so just think she wants my attention ALL the time...

Hard when you are trying to cook tea for DS etc.

Glad visit from out laws went well

Hi All,

Will catch up properly later.

Dylan has slept right through for 11-12hrs the last 2 nights (touch wood) And we've managed to get George to stay up until after 7pm, which has had a small effect on how early he's getting up.

I've been ill the last 2 days- the cold i had has gone to my ears (according to NHS Direct) and affected my balance. I couldn't walk without holding on something, it was actually really frightening. I spent most of yesterday lying down, sent George to FIL's and DH had to look after Dyl and me. I feel much better today though, thank god.

And i'm selling my playpen and double pushchair on ebay- hoping for £80 towards the new sofa that's coming soon- got £50 so far

Hope you're all good.

I had a pretty shit day which started with DD2 waking at 5am (OK, sort of 6am, but that didn't really help me!). She then proceeded to projectile her milk feed at that time, involving changing our bed (at 5:30am...not impressed) and all her clothes .

DD1 woke at 6:30 (I know I know, really it was 7:30am, her normal time, but it still felt way too early).

I have horrendous shoulder pain today after holding DD2 at mass for 25 mins then pushing a double buggy for 40 mins with one hand while DD1 walked and I held her hand. I am pretty good with pain normally but with the lack of sleep aswell, I have been shouty mum from hell all day long. Poor DD1 was pretty good but I was really losing my wrag at the smallest thing she did 'wrong' IYSWIM. DD2 has been whinging all f**king day, I'm hoping it's teeth. She is driving ,me crazy today. I put her up for sleep and she didn't settle for ages, then when I got her up from sleep she had vomitted again and it was all in her eye, poor little thing. I had to clean it all up and her poor little eye is all red and sore . And now I feel really shitty and tearful about how shit a day it's been.

Just killing time until I can put DD2 to bed (she's whining again watching a DVD). Then I think it's bath, large glass of red wine and bed for me .

I know there are people out there a lot worse off than me, but it's very hard to reason when you are tired and in pain.....

Really sorry to whinge ladies. I hope you all had better days.

LM xx

Just read the posts to catch up.

Grrl hope you are feeling better??

simpson I just read your post about whinging 8mo. Sounds like our DDs are quite similar, I think it's attention she wants a lot of the time, but it's veyr hard isn't it with housework to keep up to date with and a toddler to amuse.

I'm really hoping it's her teeth (as they seem to get the blame for everything!!) as her bum is really red and she's just been soooo grumpy all day long.

Quick question for you all,

I have been using a Phil and Ted pushchair that a friend kindly gave me - it's great for local use as my DS1 can walk with us but as it doesn't accommodate a buggy board can't go too far.
I have a Jane Power Twin, the buggy board doesn't fit well so i now have to buy a Jane Two Twin so that the buggy board will fit. (I have 3 under 3).
Does anyone have experience of this pram? Or experience of 3 children with one pram.
Thanks guys.

Evening, all

Sorry, ChaCha - can't help (only have 2). But maybe someone wiser will come along.

Grrrl - hope you're feeling better. My DP had a rather severe form of this (called Labyrinthitis, I think) and felt like he was stuck on a roller coaster for weeks. It was horrible and he couldn't get out of bed at all to start with - caused by me having mumps, most probably (which I didn't know I had, but that's another story). I hope you're getting better now.

Had to get up early with DS - like the rest of you, I presume... Why do these babies just not understand the clocks going back? Then I had to explain to him (or totally fail to, as he hung off the safety gate screaming) why he couldn't go into the garden and play on the swing in his pyjamas when it was pissing down with rain... I feel for him, I really do. But that is not going make it any easier.

To all of you who have whingers - I really sympathise. (Although I agree about the attention seeking bit - maybe second (and later) children have to make a fuss to get noticed.)

Hi all. I am feeling much better today thanks.

Damn clocks going back has made George even worse. He was up at 4.15am today, woke Dylan and neither would go back to sleep. They'd been doing so well. Glad it wasn't just mine then Chaotica!

I can't wait for them to go to bed tonight, because i'm going straight to bed aswell. Roll on 7pm!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway- my new job is awesome, and i'm really enjoying it, so i'm going to get some more caffeine in me and get off to train another staff member.

Hi all

Grrrl - glad you are feeling better today

Chaotica - i definately agree with you re whinging and 2nd/3rd Dcs. DD does not get as much attention as DS as a baby obviously but I think she wants it!!

Lucky - I can sympathise with anyone who had a LO who moans ALL day. Hope your day is better today.

Chacha - sorry can'y help you only have 2 Dcs

Looks like I a mother of 3 again today as boy from next door here again. Spending all day refereeing fights or dealing with whinging DD. Grrr....

LM really feel for you on your shitty day, and with your DD getting sick in her eye too - I went in to Izzy this morning who woke at 5am crying and then, as if this was not bad enough for her, I poked her in the eye whilst searching for her head (see sleep crawling posts earlier in thread) and then she started wailing and I was beside myself too. It is hard LM and since I have DD who is 9 months and has a whingy day it really takes it toll. But Izzy did pop out one of her top front teeth yesterday and so it does sound like teeth for you too. Hoping she is better today

chacha sorry no help but I do know what you mean about the P&T buggyboard situation. Has driven me to drinking about swapping it for the quinny speedi or something!

chaotica totally with you about the rain and explaining to little ones why they cannot play outside!

Having a much better day today. After the little minxes gorgeous girls were safely in bed I poured a large glass of wine, had a bath and finished my book, then went to bed at 9pm!!! I never do that, even when DDs tiny babies! However, I feel so much better today for it.

Took them to the park and met a friend, went to costa coffee then home. They are both now asleep and we have one of my mates and her DD coming to play later. DH off for the next 4 days after his night shift tonight, and M&D coming for the weekend so I'm feeling much happier!!

Can't help on the double buggy thing, for 3 kids under 3yrs, tbh, I'm still getting over the shock of such a predicament. You have my upmost respect!!

Glad you are feeling better Grrl.

Hello ladies, just sat at the dining table eating breakfast with the girls. There are various kellogs variety boxes scattered around me, splatters of milk everywhere and my sleeve is wet.

Oh the joys of motherhood! And another cold non-rainy day - yay! [amd I mean that, cannot cope with anymore rain!]

All fine here, nothing to report.........xx

Fine here too- even though i have been up since 4.30am (i went to bed at 8pm last night!)

Been for a nice wintery walk, kids are watching their hour of TV. I've decided today will be a good day- no shouting, and lots of books and playing. I'm even going to put on their revolting nursery rhyme CD later.

I love this weather- cold and dry. Thinking of loads of cheap warming meals to make...

Hi Ladies,

All well here too. DS up before 7am (on the day I could have a lie in because I'm working at home) - oh well... DD has covered her hand with purple pen and DS is practising taking the odd step without holding on . They're off to the CM's later so that I can get some proper work done. Which is a pity as I think I'd rather go for a walk in the woods.

Hi all

Just back from docs and DD has been referred to see a paed which will take a couple of weeks.

Am quite pleased with myself as took both Dcs into town on the bus by myself today which I have never done before Previously I would have done the 30min walk with double buggy. DS was very well behaved, no temper tantrums. Although he takes AGES to walk anywhere has he has to jump/hop/skip and generally pretend to be Sporticus (hence the name change!!)

Was simpson BTW

Nice name, Ihatelazytown Why has your DD been sent to the paed? (Sorry if you've already told us but I'm "busy" enough working not to want to read back [lazy emoticon])

It is sleeting on the washing - can't be bothered to get freezing and wet getting it in.

Grrrl - I was just reading your father christmas thread (because I'm obviously working so hard). DP doesn't want any santa action around here (for fear of 'lying to the DCs')... But we had the easter bunny hiding chocolate in the garden and now DD thinks he is real (and he lays eggs ). So I don't know what's going to happen to Santa (although DD understands that some things are pretend - even much of what her teddy does (already!), so maybe we'll go down that route. I like a good bit of xmas even though I'm not religious and I'm not keen on the commercial side - my mum always used to justify it as a pagan festival. (Not that I'm a pagan either, but nor is she.)

i think of it more as a 'winter festival' with gifts and family, and stories that some people believe in (but i don't) I'm a bit torn...part of me wants the fun of tricking them, part of me is thinking it's a commercial deception for the most part, and i want to be a bit more honest.