Baby Preston Davey - Content warning concerns CSA (added by MNHQ)

[Sadmamma35]

I’ve just read about baby Preston Davey and I cannot stop thinking about him. I have a 13-month-old of my own, which is probably why this has hit me so hard — I can really relate and my baby is my everything.
I’m crying as I write this. Why does it hurt so much for a baby I’ve never even met? Has anyone else felt this way?
How do you cope with the negative thoughts that follow when you read something like this? 💙

"It seems that Varley was resentful at being left alone with Preston so much from texts we saw at the trial and that resentment could have led to abuse." This keeps coming up. No one sexually assaults a baby to death because they resented looking after them. Stop trying to make excuses for an abusive, sadistic paedophile.

They are, but I’m thought that in one of the trial openings it said that M-F’s sexual assault charge related to the cot bars which were dismissed as evidence in the trial which confused me. But I remembered wrong, and the sexual assault was a shared incident which I don’t think we’ve heard evidence of yet, or if so it hasn’t been reported.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/preston-davey-trial-live-updates-33844580#entry3922915

Please find the part in my post where I said it excused his actions. It’s clear he had sexual interest in poor Preston, but that he was also physically abusive too. Saying that caring for a baby alone which was much more difficult than he expected provides a possible explanation for his actions, is not in any way excusing it. Nothing can excuse abusing a baby. This is a highly emotional trial and I haven’t seen a single person here saying that they think it was ok for Preston to be abused, and it’s wrong for you to say that’s what I was saying.

I quoted it exactly. You said resentment about caring for him alone could have led to abuse. There is no explanation for what he did.

There are explanations but they aren’t very pleasant ones.

It is possible the intent was positive or at least benign to start with. It is also possible it wasn’t.

It is possible that when the baby was home the reality of a baby crying and not sleeping made them angry. I think that is normal actually. But the anger obviously went to a very, very dark place.

It is possible that the anger caused either one or both of them to distance themselves from the child; they resented him, they didn’t like him, he made them angry. And once that was there that cleared the way for other awful things.

Or it could have been planned from the start; we just don’t know.

Preston should have been starting school this September.

If both of them are paedophiles then I wonder how long they'd been planning the whole thing. Did they meet through a paedophile site or paedophile ring and plan from the start to adopt a baby to abuse? I feel like them choosing a baby rather than an older child was very likely to be deliberate so that he wouldn't be old enough to tell anyone what was happening, or to be in school with staff who could pick up signs of abuse. I do think them being gay made people less likely to raise concerns if they had them, as they wouldn't want to he accused of homophobia. We know from Rotherham and all those other awful cases that social workers and other professionals involved in child welfare can be prone to putting their wish to be seen as progressive and to not risk being accused of any kind of bigotry above the welfare of vulnerable children. Abusers will know this and they are going to use it to their advantage.

I wonder how many children they abused before they went on to adopt

They both deserve to die. I cant say anymore about them 2 utter vile pieces of crap. Ive just read that Preston had bruising to the back of his throat and bruising on his ears suggesting they had been pulled forward. You can fill in the gaps.

I've had a few sleepless nights over this. I don't know why they are pleading not guilty? Pure evil.

There's a lot of nihilistic behaviour nowadays especially sexually ,- choking and all that shit. Why?? Is it some kind of stress relief? Arrogant & self serving that's the vibe I get from Jamie Varley in the police interviews. Just soulless. But there's so many people.like this. That's what the harshness of life does to them I assume. I'm late middle aged and that's how I see a lot.of young people. I realise this may be unfair.
He's quite a skilled liar but then again a lot of people are nowadays as more or less everything is performance and they are very well practiced.
It's interesting that his friends and colleagues all think he's innocent. Then again that's very common. No one thinks people they.know are capable of evil. But they're very happy to dismiss people they don't know as being capable of anything.

This case is truly evil.

They must have sexually assaulted him so many times, he was apparently unconscious on many other occasions according to the videos. The one where he was placed over the cot, blue, neck pressing against the bar haunts me. They were getting something out of him being brought to near death. Sick. I cannot stop thinking of Preston.

I know, how can they honestly think they’ll be found not guilty with the evidence against them.

Their defence apparently is going to be that all these injuries were somehow caused in the final act of resuscitation at the hospital.

edited to say - a likely story.

Yeah, anal tears from CPR, they have to be thick!

I think death is a quick escape for them. They should slowly suffer the day until they die!

I mean its just awful. Theres been some awful cases in the news. But this really is just evil

Jamie varley seemed so distressed right after the baby died. Was that an act

Probably just because he realised he was looking at a life sentence

He said 'im going to hell' too.

Things like this dont make sense. Obviously what they were doing was going to cause death. And they would obviously go to jail.

Killers seem to become like animals in the moment and not think straight.

It's always odd when killers call an ambulance and try to make excuses for injuries. It's happened in a few abuse cases and I don't understand it. Surely it's obvious that the treatment they give out would lead to death, and the prison consequences for them are inevitable? It's more logical to me when killers bury the body and try to flee the country, or kill themselves. Not that a normal person can ever under what goes on in the minds of these people, but it doesn't make sense.

Poor baby Preston would have been born around the same time as my DD2, as she's starting reception soon. It's so senseless, but also terrifying that they passed so many assessments and also crb checks as a teacher. So many child-related activities declare they have crb-checked instructors as if that should reassure parents, but all it shows is that the person has never been caught doing something dodgy yet.

Well, a couple of possible reasons:

1. Psychopathic arrogance, which I think we're likely seeing signs of in JV
2. Or perhaps they don't think they'll be found not guilty. Because I also suspect they, or at least one of them, are getting off on making others see what they did and what depravity they're capable of. If they were part of a ring or sharing vids of CSA with others (which I strongly suspect) that may well form a part of it.

I feel incredibly sorry for anyone, especially the jurors, who is having to look at this evidence in detail.

Yes there's no way they could have thought they'd get away with the murder so maybe that part wasn't pre meditated, but the rest of the abuse must have been I think. They'd been torturing Preston for months and I think the CSA at least must have been planned for a long time, likely well before the start of the adoption process. Considering how useless the authorities seem to have been, they likely would have got away with that. But there's no way they could get away with the murder.
I hope that this prompts a massive review into the failings of social services and and how they allowed this to happen. Though it likely won’t change anything because nothing ever really does. Peter Connelly, Sara Sharif, Victoria Climbié, all those children in Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford and so many others, endless cases of social services either leaving children in homes where they are obviously being abused or taking them into care and enabling horrendous abuse there.
I hope that any social worker or anyone else who didn’t do their due diligence in checking up on the adopters or on Preston’s safety, who didn’t properly investigate any concerns reported, or who ignored any other warning signs, I hope they can never close their eyes again for the rest of their lives without seeing that little boy’s face and thinking about how abjectly they failed him.
And I can’t even write on here what I hope happens to those two monsters who made his short life hell on earth and then ended it so horrifically.

Do they still think he's innocent? Surely not

If the family and friends have got any decency they'll disown him and never visit him.