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Baby Preston Davey - Content warning concerns CSA (added by MNHQ)

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Sadmamma35 · 05/05/2026 00:45

I’ve just read about baby Preston Davey and I cannot stop thinking about him. I have a 13-month-old of my own, which is probably why this has hit me so hard — I can really relate and my baby is my everything.
I’m crying as I write this. Why does it hurt so much for a baby I’ve never even met? Has anyone else felt this way?
How do you cope with the negative thoughts that follow when you read something like this? 💙

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AleaEim · 14/05/2026 12:53

So sick this case, that video of being interviewed, he just looks so guilty, what a nasty piece of work. I dare think what Preston’s life might have been like if he didn’t end up dying, would anyone have noticed what he was going through? It’s a shame he couldn’t have stayed with his foster mum. These sick individuals clearly only adopted to abuse him.

ApricotTulip · 15/05/2026 09:01

It's a fucking awful case. Unbearable

SB1967 · 15/05/2026 12:58

Doctor tells jury Preston 'had around 40 injuries to his body'
The doctor says Preston had around 40 injuries to his body when he died. These comprised of around 30 external bruises, internal bruising to the throat and pelvic organs, and a fractured arm, the jury is told.
There were features in the post mortem report that were consistent with acute upper airways obstruction. The doctor explains her area of expertise is determining accidental or non accidental injuries in children, however she considered the post mortem findings when she prepared her report, she says.
The post mortem excluded natural disease and no foreign body was found in the airway, however there was a large area of bruising to the back of the throat. There was no bruising to the outside of the neck or the front of the throat, suggesting there had been direct blunt force trauma to the area, Dr Gifford says.
She says there are a number of possible causes of upper airways obstruction, such as smothering or choking. However the bruising to the throat and pathological signs of asphyxia suggested something had been put in the throat to cause a blockage. She says this was consistent with sexual abuse.

Jesus F***g Christ

AleaEim · 15/05/2026 13:11

SB1967 · 15/05/2026 12:58

Doctor tells jury Preston 'had around 40 injuries to his body'
The doctor says Preston had around 40 injuries to his body when he died. These comprised of around 30 external bruises, internal bruising to the throat and pelvic organs, and a fractured arm, the jury is told.
There were features in the post mortem report that were consistent with acute upper airways obstruction. The doctor explains her area of expertise is determining accidental or non accidental injuries in children, however she considered the post mortem findings when she prepared her report, she says.
The post mortem excluded natural disease and no foreign body was found in the airway, however there was a large area of bruising to the back of the throat. There was no bruising to the outside of the neck or the front of the throat, suggesting there had been direct blunt force trauma to the area, Dr Gifford says.
She says there are a number of possible causes of upper airways obstruction, such as smothering or choking. However the bruising to the throat and pathological signs of asphyxia suggested something had been put in the throat to cause a blockage. She says this was consistent with sexual abuse.

Jesus F***g Christ

Just wow, f*ing wow! Like what? To a baby! And they think that’s how he died? Sexual trauma to the throat ? Apparently they took a video of him 1 hour and 40 minutes before he got to hospital, the video was of him not being able to breath properly. I dread to think of it but were they abusing him all day and then finally he died of his injuries or did they just video him dying and finally brought him in when he passed.? Don’t think I even want to know.

TeaAndStrumpets · 15/05/2026 13:13

SB1967 · 15/05/2026 12:58

Doctor tells jury Preston 'had around 40 injuries to his body'
The doctor says Preston had around 40 injuries to his body when he died. These comprised of around 30 external bruises, internal bruising to the throat and pelvic organs, and a fractured arm, the jury is told.
There were features in the post mortem report that were consistent with acute upper airways obstruction. The doctor explains her area of expertise is determining accidental or non accidental injuries in children, however she considered the post mortem findings when she prepared her report, she says.
The post mortem excluded natural disease and no foreign body was found in the airway, however there was a large area of bruising to the back of the throat. There was no bruising to the outside of the neck or the front of the throat, suggesting there had been direct blunt force trauma to the area, Dr Gifford says.
She says there are a number of possible causes of upper airways obstruction, such as smothering or choking. However the bruising to the throat and pathological signs of asphyxia suggested something had been put in the throat to cause a blockage. She says this was consistent with sexual abuse.

Jesus F***g Christ

I honestly thought some of the evidence was better not published. Very very upsetting. I worry about all the abusers out there who never get caught.

What depraved creatures, how has this been allowed.

SB1967 · 15/05/2026 13:20

He's been questioning the ability.of the pathologist to.do.her job which is never ever ever a good look.
It's hard to accept that people like this actually exist although of course there's a vast industry involving people paying to.watch all kinds of depravity over the Internet. The Internet is actually facilitating abuse of children, people generally, and animals, which to be honest just makes me believe our species is a disease better off dying out.
Anyway they're innocent until proven otherwise.

Anxioustealady · 15/05/2026 14:09

followtheswallow · 14/05/2026 11:40

The thing is, you can never really know. I think I’ve said this before on here but there’s a thread knocking around from about November 2020, a month or so before ds (first baby) was due. I think I’d seen a job I was considering applying for (the start date wasn’t until the following September.) I have read it more than once since because I’m so blithe and confident about everything. DH and I were going to be equal parents, of course babies are tiring, I can handle it.

And then my children happened and … well, please don’t think I’m saying I’d change them as I wouldn’t (although have thought it in darker moments!) but although I think my children are for the most part lovely children and they don’t have any additional needs I am aware of, but equally I will admit I had no real idea of what parenting them involved, and I have completely left behind what life I had before them. And sometimes I do resent that and feel frustrated and angry at being pulled every which way, and constantly meeting myself coming back - even if I do get a couple of hours to myself it’s snatched and rushed.

I gained my children of course, and I feel I have a place in society where before maybe I didn’t (I don’t mean everyone, I just mean me - I was a bit nomadic before; would spend a few years in a job then move on, that sort of thing.)

I have often cried in the last few years, from tiredness mostly and frustration, have never felt as insecure in any role I’ve had than this one. I’ve also had moments of real anger and fury where I’ve felt like I hate my children. Then I’ve always been shocked and upset with myself afterwards. I know in an adoption scenario I’d say the right things but honestly when it came to it I wouldn’t have coped.

This case is of course different because the defendants don’t appear to have been people who wanted a child but didn’t really know what that involved. But I have been taken aback at how quickly it can get to you, how when you’ve had hardly any sleep and a baby’s cries and you just can’t seem to comfort them or a toddler having a tantrum and it feels like it’s lasted hours and you’re doing all the right things but it enrages them more … I don’t know what the answer is. And of course we don’t know why little Preston was removed in the first place, but certainly I will admit on here to probably patronising replies about it always being a last resort I’ve never felt comfortable with forced adoption.

I think you've not understood this case. No one starts sexually abusing children due to sleep deprivation.

These two men are monsters.

followtheswallow · 15/05/2026 14:30

I can assure you I haven’t misunderstood this case. I was replying to another poster on a more general point about adoption and how to tell who would be suited.

Occasionalcyclist · 15/05/2026 15:12

The details of this trial are so distressing. That poor poor baby.

Scarlettjune · 15/05/2026 15:23

Someone wrote" I cant understand why anyone would hurt children."

Usually, because they were hurt themselves as a child. The cycle of abuse keeps going.

If you were beaten up and abused as a child, often you are not going to turn into a calm, nice adult.

My mother was badly abused as a child. As a parent, she then badly abused me and my brother. I had to look at her childhood to see what happened to her.

Its why i chose not to have kids. And also why i try to stay away from children in general Im just as messed up as my mother, from the abuse i received.. If i had kids i would be worried i would be abusive to them

Scarlettjune · 15/05/2026 15:29

There have been several cases like this but this one is especially shocking
In its level of cruelty
The fact that he was a teacher

ithinkilikethislittlelife · 15/05/2026 16:55

It seems that they adopted for the sole purpose of torture and abuse. It’s just so distressing to read and even more distressing to think of what that tiny baby endured by those two abominations. It hurts my soul. The photographs of him smiling and the video of him bouncing in his bouncer are heartbreaking when you know what was possibly going on behind the scenes. That poor child.

AleaEim · 15/05/2026 16:55

Scarlettjune · 15/05/2026 15:29

There have been several cases like this but this one is especially shocking
In its level of cruelty
The fact that he was a teacher

Exactly this, I wonder if he has abused before, especially since he’s access to children as a teacher.

ithinkilikethislittlelife · 15/05/2026 16:58

And I should add I am adopted myself and also adopted my eldest child. I know how rigorous the application system is but as I said up thread it’s letting monsters through and giving them access babies. I was never asked though during my process if I would harm my adopted baby. I don’t imagine they would ever admit to it but it should be asked and their reaction studied.

TeaAndStrumpets · 15/05/2026 18:02

ithinkilikethislittlelife · 15/05/2026 16:58

And I should add I am adopted myself and also adopted my eldest child. I know how rigorous the application system is but as I said up thread it’s letting monsters through and giving them access babies. I was never asked though during my process if I would harm my adopted baby. I don’t imagine they would ever admit to it but it should be asked and their reaction studied.

There is a long history of choir masters, scout masters etc using their respectable trusted status in society to be able to get access to children, but no comparable situation for getting access to babies until recently. Becoming a stepfather is often a factor, but there is usually a mother figure around. I know people say "Oh women abuse as well" but the incidence is lower as far as I know. You do get collusion by partners to hide abuse which is another problem.

There was the case of the Moors Murdererers which occurred when two sick individuals joined forces. They also had souvenir recordings. No internet in those days, they were just evil.

I think babies need female care givers and I am truly sad that there aren't enough foster/adoption places.

SB1967 · 15/05/2026 18:11

Of course the authorities thought he was safe with this professional couple. Even when Preston was incurring visible injuries.
There's gonna be a witch hunt when it's over but they will gloss over the class bias.
But who can you trust when you can't trust people who present as totally respectable?
This is horror movie level deception.

TeaAndStrumpets · 15/05/2026 18:25

SB1967 · 15/05/2026 18:11

Of course the authorities thought he was safe with this professional couple. Even when Preston was incurring visible injuries.
There's gonna be a witch hunt when it's over but they will gloss over the class bias.
But who can you trust when you can't trust people who present as totally respectable?
This is horror movie level deception.

Yes I'm sure the authorities will be very sorry, lessons learned etc. Nobody will take responsibility.

Edit to add, horror movie is correct.

ApricotTulip · 15/05/2026 18:27

AleaEim · 15/05/2026 16:55

Exactly this, I wonder if he has abused before, especially since he’s access to children as a teacher.

I think paedophiles have an age they are attracted to. He taught secondary school age, but I guess must have been into babies 😫

kscarpetta · 15/05/2026 18:57

TeaAndStrumpets · 15/05/2026 18:25

Yes I'm sure the authorities will be very sorry, lessons learned etc. Nobody will take responsibility.

Edit to add, horror movie is correct.

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The people responsible are the men who raped and murdered this little baby.
Paedophiles are very good at coming across as charming and respectable, they probably could have fooled any of us.

ithinkilikethislittlelife · 15/05/2026 19:07

TeaAndStrumpets · 15/05/2026 18:02

There is a long history of choir masters, scout masters etc using their respectable trusted status in society to be able to get access to children, but no comparable situation for getting access to babies until recently. Becoming a stepfather is often a factor, but there is usually a mother figure around. I know people say "Oh women abuse as well" but the incidence is lower as far as I know. You do get collusion by partners to hide abuse which is another problem.

There was the case of the Moors Murdererers which occurred when two sick individuals joined forces. They also had souvenir recordings. No internet in those days, they were just evil.

I think babies need female care givers and I am truly sad that there aren't enough foster/adoption places.

Baby leiland was killed by his adoptive mother. Monsters all of them.

TeaAndStrumpets · 15/05/2026 19:26

kscarpetta · 15/05/2026 18:57

The people responsible are the men who raped and murdered this little baby.
Paedophiles are very good at coming across as charming and respectable, they probably could have fooled any of us.

Jimmy Savile fooled a lot of people from the Royal family and government down.

There were a lot of nursing staff who raised concerns but they were reprimanded by their NHS bosses. Savile raised a lot of money for charity so he was pretty well untouchable - which rather backs up your point. Very very plausible sociopath.

Sadmamma35 · 15/05/2026 20:04

Scarlettjune · 15/05/2026 15:23

Someone wrote" I cant understand why anyone would hurt children."

Usually, because they were hurt themselves as a child. The cycle of abuse keeps going.

If you were beaten up and abused as a child, often you are not going to turn into a calm, nice adult.

My mother was badly abused as a child. As a parent, she then badly abused me and my brother. I had to look at her childhood to see what happened to her.

Its why i chose not to have kids. And also why i try to stay away from children in general Im just as messed up as my mother, from the abuse i received.. If i had kids i would be worried i would be abusive to them

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I am sorry you had to go through this as a child, and I am glad you have been able to break the cycle. It is really hard. I hope you have managed to heal your inner self.
Big hugs!!

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AlienLady · 15/05/2026 20:10

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0prrz151do

“Jurors were shown videos and photographs of the child's bruises both before and after his death, along with images of his anatomy, parts of which were described as "abnormal" and caused by "forcible penetration", according to a Home Office pathologist.
Gifford told jurors: "The injuries are clinical signs of sexual abuse. More than one occasion."”

poor baby :( and poor the jurors

Baby Preston Davey smiles while dressed in a white vest. He appears to be lying in a cot.

Baby Preston Davey had sexual abuse injuries, murder trial told

Former teacher Jamie Varley denies sexually abusing and murdering his adopted son Preston Davey.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0prrz151do

Wildflower26 · 15/05/2026 20:22

Paddingtonscare · 13/05/2026 17:05

Sorry I don't mean that to sound blasé about the risk. Simply theres also risk involved in leaving children in foster care, having less foster spaces/social work time for children (both by keeping more kids in foster but also reducing the number of foster carers in first place)

There was a specific incidence where I was being grilled about my lottery spend at a few points (in charge of a work syndicate!) By a social worker then by a pannel of people where i wondered how anyone makes it through, and if this time could have been better spent helping children at risk.

That makes sense, I think you're right it wouldn't work. I don't know what the answer is. 😥

Sadmamma35 · 15/05/2026 20:31

Sadmamma35 · 05/05/2026 00:45

I’ve just read about baby Preston Davey and I cannot stop thinking about him. I have a 13-month-old of my own, which is probably why this has hit me so hard — I can really relate and my baby is my everything.
I’m crying as I write this. Why does it hurt so much for a baby I’ve never even met? Has anyone else felt this way?
How do you cope with the negative thoughts that follow when you read something like this? 💙

If anyone can bear reading this case, the following link covers the court proceedings: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/trial-updates-preston-davey-live-33844580#google_vignette

I held my 13-month-old son a little tighter today. I kissed his chubby hands countless times and told him I loved him over and over again for baby Preston. No baby or child deserves this, and I hope these monsters die in prison.
I am so sorry we could not protect you, little baby. You were taken from your birth mother just five days after you were born, for reasons only god knows, then you settled with your foster carers, only to be handed to the monsters who killed you.
You did not get the love and safety every child deserves in this world. I truly hope that wherever you are now is kinder than the hell you experienced here.
Crying again!! I am so sorry upset that I can’t do anything

Preston Davey RECAP as doctor tells jury baby's injuries had been 'inflicted'

Jamie Varley, 37, and John McGowan-Fazackerly, 32, face a string of charges following the baby's death

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/trial-updates-preston-davey-live-33844580#google_vignette

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