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Baby Preston Davey - Content warning concerns CSA (added by MNHQ)

938 replies

Sadmamma35 · 05/05/2026 00:45

I’ve just read about baby Preston Davey and I cannot stop thinking about him. I have a 13-month-old of my own, which is probably why this has hit me so hard — I can really relate and my baby is my everything.
I’m crying as I write this. Why does it hurt so much for a baby I’ve never even met? Has anyone else felt this way?
How do you cope with the negative thoughts that follow when you read something like this? 💙

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Sadmamma35 · 15/06/2026 22:54

It must ve quite traumatic for you too

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tealandteal · 15/06/2026 22:54

That poor baby should be waking up tomorrow on his 4th birthday. I stayed up to decorate my DS’s cake for tomorrow and couldn’t help thinking of baby Preston. I’m pleased he has justice now.

Sadmamma35 · 15/06/2026 22:55

Happy birthday to your DS. Just hug him a bit tighter tomorrow for Preston❤️

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JumpLeadsForTwo · 15/06/2026 23:02

mintleavesandthyme · 15/06/2026 21:26

I read the grandmother wanted to adopt too. What were social services playing at? Do they have no oversight?

It’s the family court/ judge that decides whether a child is to be adopted or placed with family members. The social workers do the assessments but do not make the decisions

Sadmamma35 · 15/06/2026 23:06

RibenaCocktail · 15/06/2026 22:30

What happened to poor baby Preston was inexcusable and unbelievable that anyone could be so cruel and disgusting. Those vile men alone were responsible for his death. I hope they rot.

It is true that there is always “lessons to be learnt” and hindsight for the professionals involved but the reality is that it’s very very difficult to prove a child is at such risk of harm that you can remove them, especially from adopters who would have already had all the necessary safeguarding checks and positive references and would also have their own social worker supporting and supervising.

I am by profession a children’s social worker. I worked 9 years in child protection and burnt out. Never ever again. It’s the hardest job I’ve ever done and while I love children I was so so unhappy. It wasn’t the social workers fault but I guarantee they would be blaming themselves and in despair, wishing they could turn back the clock but in reality, without knowing what a sadistic sick twisted maniac that man was, and without knowing what we know know, probably not much would have been done differently. Maybe a few more unannounced visits perhaps. It’s so so sad.

I am so sorry to hear your experiences. I think you have done so well too.

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Colinswife · 15/06/2026 23:28

@Breadcat24I, also, was terribly upset tonight after watching the video of poor, innocent little Preston bouncing up and down to "the wheels on the bus". Such a picture of absolute innocence, he should have been safe, who the hell handed him over to those two perverts? Preston has been let down by so many people who came into contact with him, not just the two absolute monsters who tortured and murdered him. May they rot in hell.

IdBeLionIfISaid · 15/06/2026 23:43

Sentencing on Thursday

hattie43 · 16/06/2026 05:50

This is one of the most shocking murders I’ve come across . There seems to be no end to the depravity some men display . I hope they have a very hard time in prison and are shown no mercy by other prisoners .

Aroundthemalepole · 16/06/2026 07:25

IdBeLionIfISaid · 15/06/2026 23:43

Sentencing on Thursday

That feels quick. Does it not usually take longer?

dick27 · 16/06/2026 07:44

I couldn't stop thinking about this last night either. That poor, poor boy.

FrothyCothy · 16/06/2026 07:47

Aroundthemalepole · 16/06/2026 07:25

That feels quick. Does it not usually take longer?

I think it’s sometimes delayed for psychological reports or similar - perhaps they either already have them or as no defence has been made regarding mental health they’re not considered necessary.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 16/06/2026 07:56

I don’t think that two gay men should adopt babies or young children. Older children yes, babies and toddlers no, they need women. I don’t care if this is unequal.

Efacsen · 16/06/2026 08:00

FrothyCothy · 16/06/2026 07:47

I think it’s sometimes delayed for psychological reports or similar - perhaps they either already have them or as no defence has been made regarding mental health they’re not considered necessary.

Preston was killed 3 years ago so there has been plenty of time to investigate/ assess

Plus depends on the availability of the judge/courtroom

followtheswallow · 16/06/2026 08:01

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 16/06/2026 07:56

I don’t think that two gay men should adopt babies or young children. Older children yes, babies and toddlers no, they need women. I don’t care if this is unequal.

I think that’s possibly a reasonable measure, given that adoption is meant to be about the interests of the child.

hattie43 · 16/06/2026 08:01

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 16/06/2026 07:56

I don’t think that two gay men should adopt babies or young children. Older children yes, babies and toddlers no, they need women. I don’t care if this is unequal.

I think that question will be asked now . This whole approach to welfare of vulnerables based on woke principles and too many afraid to speak out .
Having said that I know a gay couple who adopted 2 primary age brothers and have done a fabulous job .

followtheswallow · 16/06/2026 08:02

Yes, I know gay adopters who really are lovely people (as much as you can tell but I’ve known one since we were at primary school.)

ByRoseBiscuit · 16/06/2026 08:57

ItsPickleRick · 15/06/2026 22:06

The grandma made the choice not to take him because of her health. Social services will always try to place with family members first if at all possible.

There will now be the obligatory “blame the social workers” comments. There are only two people to blame for Preston’s murder.

I’ve mentioned this before - the majority of my cohort wanted to be child protection social workers when we started our degree. By the end of it, none did. We still had the passion, but we saw how social workers were vilified when things went wrong. Facebook groups with tens of thousands of members posting pictures of social workers and wishing them dead. Many students who would have been incredible children’s social workers chose another route because ultimately, no matter what management said, when something goes wrong the blame lies with them.

Nobody hears about the children that are saved. Social services, like most public services, are broken. Years of lack of funding, high caseloads, burnout, wanting to remove a child but being blocked by managers, working hours of unpaid overtime just to get everything done. An average of 20 children on your caseload, all high risk. How do you seem them all more than once a week?

Yes, the social worker here made mistakes. Ones she will probably never forgive herself for. This is every social workers worst nightmare, but even with the best social care system in the world, children will die, because bastards like Varley exist.

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I heard an interview with the grandmother and it didn’t sound like it was her choice not to take him!

kscarpetta · 16/06/2026 09:00

ByRoseBiscuit · 16/06/2026 08:57

I heard an interview with the grandmother and it didn’t sound like it was her choice not to take him!

Someone who has already raised one child to be completely unable to function in society would maybe not be an ideal choice to raise another child.
Obviously with hindsight you can say she would have been better than the adopters but the social workers at the time couldn't have known that.

hattie43 · 16/06/2026 09:22

kscarpetta · 16/06/2026 09:00

Someone who has already raised one child to be completely unable to function in society would maybe not be an ideal choice to raise another child.
Obviously with hindsight you can say she would have been better than the adopters but the social workers at the time couldn't have known that.

This is my thoughts . If you raise a 14yrs daughter to become a sadistic killer how suitable are you to raise any child .

Efacsen · 16/06/2026 09:28

hattie43 · 16/06/2026 09:22

This is my thoughts . If you raise a 14yrs daughter to become a sadistic killer how suitable are you to raise any child .

She is apparently already raising Preston's 7 yr old sister/half sister despite her previous track record which is concerning

She is also 66 yrs old which must have been a consideration in placing Preston with her

notatinydancer · 16/06/2026 09:34

Colinswife · 05/05/2026 10:47

This case is local to me and is absolutely devastating. That poor little baby boy, how the hell could this happen to him. Why did no one, during and after the adoption process, spot what was going on? I adopted a child through the local council and can't help thinking it could have been him. Those two men should never have been given that baby boy and no, I'm not homophobic. I, also, always think about the poor, innocent babies and children whenever I hear of wars etc I completely understand how you feel OP.

Because they must have hid it well. The social workers can’t be there 24/7 unfortunately.

Efacsen · 16/06/2026 09:39

notatinydancer · 16/06/2026 09:34

Because they must have hid it well. The social workers can’t be there 24/7 unfortunately.

It seems as tho' much of the post-placement monitoring and support was by phone/ whatsapp because the SWs were from where he was born in Greater Manchester not local SWs

TeaAndStrumpets · 16/06/2026 09:46

hattie43 · 16/06/2026 09:22

This is my thoughts . If you raise a 14yrs daughter to become a sadistic killer how suitable are you to raise any child .

The teen years cause such changes in the developing brain and sometimes that is when any underlying mental illness shows up. I wouldn't condemn the grandmother as a poor parent because of what her daughter did.

ApricotTulip · 16/06/2026 09:56

Efacsen · 16/06/2026 09:28

She is apparently already raising Preston's 7 yr old sister/half sister despite her previous track record which is concerning

She is also 66 yrs old which must have been a consideration in placing Preston with her

Apparently she wanted to bring up Preston but found she had breast cancer so he wasn't placed with her.

kscarpetta · 16/06/2026 10:06

TeaAndStrumpets · 16/06/2026 09:46

The teen years cause such changes in the developing brain and sometimes that is when any underlying mental illness shows up. I wouldn't condemn the grandmother as a poor parent because of what her daughter did.

Teenage years are hard going and for that reason alone granny could never have been a realistic option to place a baby with - looking after a non sleeping baby is hard but imagine 80 year old cancer survivor trying to parent a challenging teenager alone.