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Relationship breakdown due to difference in parenting

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Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:01

afternoon all
my relationship with my partner has ended due to a difference in parenting. I am a step dad to her child and her dad has never been in her life. She really is a great kid, and I love her like my own. I have been her dad for 7 years now. The problem was me and her mum have very different opinions, she is a very much leave her be, yes mum. I’m more a I believe every child should have structure and rules in place, this I believe helps us guide a child. It’s really silly really but here goes, so I haven’t implemented many rules, but the few I did caused so many arguments and the poor kid was always in the middle of them :(. The rules were as follows:
if she is to eat crisps, chocolate and sweets she needs to ask. My reason for this is so we can keep her eating of bad foods to a healthy level. If you don’t have this in place she could potentially be eating unhealthy amounts of high in saturated fats, and sugary foods.
Her mum argued it again and again saying if she is hungry she should be allowed to eat, even know this rule was only for crisps and chocolate 🤦🏻‍♂️. We are not strict, she eats sweets etc daily, but as parents we should keep them at healthy standards.
her Mum was allowing her to have candles in her room at 13, I said she isn’t allowed to light candles in her room. My reasoning for this was due to it being a safety issue, if she was to knock it over, something fell on it and set light, or maybe the cat that is regularly in her room could knock something onto it or over even. I’d prefer her not to have something like this as she is our child and I couldn’t live with myself if something bad happened and she was scarred for life or even worse….
her mum argued this again telling me it’s controlling, she needs to learn, she isn’t stupid. My counter argument is, she isn’t stupid you’re correct but even fully grown adults have died in house fires due to such incidents. Also she liked to play with the candle wax, which in itself creates a danger and proves she isn’t mature enough to be left alone with candles yet.
at 12 she wanted to start using foundation, I didn’t like thought of this and said you can have make up, and even concealer in case you get a spot etc… her mum wasn’t having this and argued this again and again until I eventually just said ok. My reasoning was she had gorgeous tanned skin, no imperfections. Foundation wasn’t needed, if she had really bad skin and it was causing her to have confidence issues etc, I’d have understood. Foundation will block her pores etc, and won’t help with spots etc. we live in a world where kids are trying to be adults to soon.
the only other thing we had in place was no baths after 8 clock, unless you come home late of course. Generally she is home at 3:30, so I was trying to introduce routine and structure into her life, and it’s good practice as this has her all clean, hair done etc by say 9 clock ready for bed. Her says it’s pathetic, and no need, I’m just being controlling.

now I know people are gonna agree and disagree, the problem was there was no medium..,. Everything I implemented was an argument, and a soon as I wasn’t in let her do as she likes. As you can imagine for the kid this isn’t healthy, she is getting mixed signals on the rules which then made me look the bad guy. The child has no rules in place what so ever, no chores, I just feel as much as this keeps the peace in the household, it’s lazy parenting, maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure someone will tell me haha. I’m not even allowed to give her chores, because this then leads to arguments and I then fall out with the mum, I just couldn’t stay in a relationship that I either had to become a yes dad, and have no say in the child’s life, but she wants be to be her dad 🤷🏼‍♂️ it’s so bad that we found out she was on FaceTime to fully grown men with her friend and her mum defended it by saying she wasn’t on her phone, it was her friends. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m like this is a serious duty of care issue, and we shouldn’t be excusing this behaviour. Now don’t get me wrong the kids not a problem at all, as a parent I expect her to huff, puff and argue 😂😂 I can deal with that no problem, but I can’t be fighting with my partner every other day, I can’t image how bad the arguments will become when the kids 15/16 😱.

the final straw was when I said she can’t have a chocolate bar at 10 clock as it’s getting to bed time. Her mum once again pulled a face and started saying what’s the problem, it’s just a chocolate bar. Surely a lot of parents would agree 10 clock is a bit late to be eating chocolate when she will be going bed in next half hour.

anyways, thanks for reading and sorry for the essay, just dunno where to turn.

OP posts:
ChonkyRabbit · 23/02/2025 14:05

She isn't your child and it was never your place to implement rules, especially without the agreement of her mother. It's good the relationship has ended and now you need to leave them alone.

BreadInCaptivity · 23/02/2025 14:11

The reality is that there is nowhere to turn.

As a step parent you can advise but the parents decisions will always top trump yours.

So you can either choose to let it go, or leave.

I don't think you're unreasonable, especially with the candles and personally I couldn't just sit by and watch all this play out.

So I think you may have to accept there is not a middle ground here that is acceptable to your partner.

BreadInCaptivity · 23/02/2025 14:12

ChonkyRabbit · 23/02/2025 14:05

She isn't your child and it was never your place to implement rules, especially without the agreement of her mother. It's good the relationship has ended and now you need to leave them alone.

To be fair on respect of the candles being a safety issue in the home I think the OP has every right to intervene on that point.

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Italiangreyhound · 23/02/2025 14:12

I think you and her mum were not willing to work together on your approach to her DD/your step daughter.

The Candle thing I would 100 percent agree with you and the risk to you as part of the home means you should get a say in things like that.

Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:13

ChonkyRabbit · 23/02/2025 14:05

She isn't your child and it was never your place to implement rules, especially without the agreement of her mother. It's good the relationship has ended and now you need to leave them alone.

So I take it it’s not my place to be a dad, even know her mum clearly says I’m her dad 🤦🏻‍♂️. Wow you sound like a lovely person, leave a child alone that sees me as her dad. That wouldn’t emotionally scar her much would it 🤦🏻‍♂️

OP posts:
Garlicgarlicgarlic · 23/02/2025 14:15

You were her mother's boyfriend. Her parent can parent her.
Don't get involved with the drudgery of parenting someone else's kid in future. Having a girlfriend is meant to be fun, enjoyable.
There is no where to turn. No divorce to deal with, no child to sort access for, no maintenance to pay.

DarkForces · 23/02/2025 14:15

I'm not sure what you're looking for. I mean I disagree with a lot of your rules but it's irrelevant. In the end if you're unhappy you should leave, but you'll lose contact with dd so it's up to you to decide if it's worth it

Bloodybrambles · 23/02/2025 14:16

Yep parenting styles are a make or break in relationships. But like everything it’s compromise unless you’re on completely different sides.

Your partner was always going to have the final say as she’s her parent.

Candles you’ve got a point but everything else you seem to be bit of a control freak. 13 year olds want to wear makeup like their peers. Who wants their (step) dad telling them what they’re allowed or not to wear on their own face.

You’d have a point if you were annoyed with your DD eating all the chocolate bars/treats and not leaving any for the rest of the family. But making it a hill to die on when her mother is OK with it was always going to kill the relationship.

Find it best to discuss these things in private and be a United front to the kids. I wasn’t allowed candles in my bedroom then finally I was allowed to lite them on the condition that I would blow them out even if I went to the bathroom. I was only allowed to keep them in certain ‘safe’ places and not allowed to move them. But that’s also parenting, showing kids how to do things safely and reaching compromises with them too.

BreadInCaptivity · 23/02/2025 14:16

OP one thing I've learned as a SP is that when it's to the parent's advantage you are always a "parent".

Be it pick ups/ drop offs, helping with homework and paying bills/expenses.

Yet as soon as there is any disagreement you are firmly reminded of the "step" precursor....

Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:17

BreadInCaptivity · 23/02/2025 14:11

The reality is that there is nowhere to turn.

As a step parent you can advise but the parents decisions will always top trump yours.

So you can either choose to let it go, or leave.

I don't think you're unreasonable, especially with the candles and personally I couldn't just sit by and watch all this play out.

So I think you may have to accept there is not a middle ground here that is acceptable to your partner.

Totally agree, her mum has the final decision. I was never trying to be controlling or nothing, I always had the child’s best interests at heart.

that is exactly how I feel, I’ve been in there life’s for 7 years, and isn’t healthy feeling I had no say and there was no middle ground.

thank you for you’re input, it’s much appreciated.

OP posts:
Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:25

Bloodybrambles · 23/02/2025 14:16

Yep parenting styles are a make or break in relationships. But like everything it’s compromise unless you’re on completely different sides.

Your partner was always going to have the final say as she’s her parent.

Candles you’ve got a point but everything else you seem to be bit of a control freak. 13 year olds want to wear makeup like their peers. Who wants their (step) dad telling them what they’re allowed or not to wear on their own face.

You’d have a point if you were annoyed with your DD eating all the chocolate bars/treats and not leaving any for the rest of the family. But making it a hill to die on when her mother is OK with it was always going to kill the relationship.

Find it best to discuss these things in private and be a United front to the kids. I wasn’t allowed candles in my bedroom then finally I was allowed to lite them on the condition that I would blow them out even if I went to the bathroom. I was only allowed to keep them in certain ‘safe’ places and not allowed to move them. But that’s also parenting, showing kids how to do things safely and reaching compromises with them too.

she wasn't not allowed to wear makeup, it was just the foundation…. Now I can agree I may be wrong in that instance, and I did let that go. but she was 12 not 13 and I just didn’t want her covering her whole face in foundation. She is naturally beautiful, and social media etc just makes kids feel they have to do these things.

as for chocolate etc…. It wasn’t about us having any…. It was purely keeping an eye on how much she eats daily, I don’t think this is a bad thing. I had to ask as a kid, and to be fair bringing up a child with a healthy diet will only contribute to a healthy adult life.

OP posts:
DarkForces · 23/02/2025 14:29

12 year old girls are generally super aware and insecure about their looks and are unable to see themselves objectively. Makeup can really help them feel more confident. It's a shame but it's important. Unless you've been there it's hard to understand but it's definitely make privilege to see this as an unimportant thing to your step daughter

crankytoes · 23/02/2025 14:29

ChonkyRabbit · 23/02/2025 14:05

She isn't your child and it was never your place to implement rules, especially without the agreement of her mother. It's good the relationship has ended and now you need to leave them alone.

The child has been communicating online with grown men with her mother's apparent approval and you think the OP is the problem? 🧐

crankytoes · 23/02/2025 14:31

@Bloodybrambles

Candles you’ve got a point but everything else you seem to be bit of a control freak.
Chatting online with grown men is ok with you? Wow. 😮

ChonkyRabbit · 23/02/2025 14:32

crankytoes · 23/02/2025 14:29

The child has been communicating online with grown men with her mother's apparent approval and you think the OP is the problem? 🧐

Are you a bit dim?

It's clear the OP just wants a load of women to agree his ex is a crap parent and he has been hard done by. So many of these men on here recently.

crankytoes · 23/02/2025 14:33

@ChonkyRabbit
Hold up. So you have decided to just invalidate that bit?

Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:35

DarkForces · 23/02/2025 14:29

12 year old girls are generally super aware and insecure about their looks and are unable to see themselves objectively. Makeup can really help them feel more confident. It's a shame but it's important. Unless you've been there it's hard to understand but it's definitely make privilege to see this as an unimportant thing to your step daughter

I can understand this, obviously I wasn’t correct in everything. I was just trying be a good parent. I felt being able to where the rest of the make up like lipsticks, eyeliner, concealer was good enough what with her having lovely skin. But I guess I may have been wrong in that instance.

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crankytoes · 23/02/2025 14:36

@ChonkyRabbit

it’s so bad that we found out she was on FaceTime to fully grown men with her friend and her mum defended it by saying she wasn’t on her phone, it was her friends.
You've just decided with no reason to just cut this piece out and pretend it isn't there? That's just weird.
You either take a post at face value or you don't. But you can't go around picking bits to hate on and then ignoring bits that go against your narrative. That's just stupid behaviour

dairydebris · 23/02/2025 14:37

I think the relationship breakdown was due to your controlling and self righteous ways.

Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:38

ChonkyRabbit · 23/02/2025 14:32

Are you a bit dim?

It's clear the OP just wants a load of women to agree his ex is a crap parent and he has been hard done by. So many of these men on here recently.

That isn’t the case at all, she is a lovely women actually, and I love her very much. This isn’t about her being a shit mum cos she isn’t, she looks after her kid and does her best for her. To have an understanding of you’re right or wrong, sometimes it’s good to get an unbiased opinion.
now I didn’t say she was ok with her talking to men, but it’s the excusing her action because it wasn’t physically her phone, which had nothing to do with it.

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TeenLifeMum · 23/02/2025 14:39

Wow, it’s not your dc. I have 2 13 yo daughters (twins) and they (and their friends) all wear foundation and have candles in their rooms. We have strict rules around that for safety reasons but at 13 they are completely capable of being responsible. Sounds like you are babying her and not allowing her mum to set the boundaries because you clearly think you’re right.

i have a 17yo daughter too and my rules have supported her growing into a wonderfully confident and able young lady. You’re focusing on weird battles with a teen about things that don’t matter.

Adamante · 23/02/2025 14:39

I’d like to hear the Mum’s side of this…

Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:41

crankytoes · 23/02/2025 14:31

@Bloodybrambles

Candles you’ve got a point but everything else you seem to be bit of a control freak.
Chatting online with grown men is ok with you? Wow. 😮

Maybe that came across wrong, she didn’t say it was ok she was talking to men, it was more the defending the action by saying it wasn’t on her phone, which I think has nothing to do with it really. She knows not to speak to fully grown men, and we have taught her how dangerous it is.

OP posts:
Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:43

TeenLifeMum · 23/02/2025 14:39

Wow, it’s not your dc. I have 2 13 yo daughters (twins) and they (and their friends) all wear foundation and have candles in their rooms. We have strict rules around that for safety reasons but at 13 they are completely capable of being responsible. Sounds like you are babying her and not allowing her mum to set the boundaries because you clearly think you’re right.

i have a 17yo daughter too and my rules have supported her growing into a wonderfully confident and able young lady. You’re focusing on weird battles with a teen about things that don’t matter.

I accept I was wrong in the instance of the make up. It wasn’t implemented for long as I accepted it wasn’t a big deal.

OP posts:
DarkForces · 23/02/2025 14:44

Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:35

I can understand this, obviously I wasn’t correct in everything. I was just trying be a good parent. I felt being able to where the rest of the make up like lipsticks, eyeliner, concealer was good enough what with her having lovely skin. But I guess I may have been wrong in that instance.

Yes. Foundation is a very weird place to draw the line.

I expect 13 year old dd to ask before eating chocolate, be responsible online and not friend anyone she doesn't know and she'd burn the house down with a candle. My house rule is don't be a twat, which applies equally to us all. I do try to focus more on our relationships as a family and working together than a strict list of rules especially now dd is 13. There's definitely more give needed in your approach imo.