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Relationship breakdown due to difference in parenting

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Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 14:01

afternoon all
my relationship with my partner has ended due to a difference in parenting. I am a step dad to her child and her dad has never been in her life. She really is a great kid, and I love her like my own. I have been her dad for 7 years now. The problem was me and her mum have very different opinions, she is a very much leave her be, yes mum. I’m more a I believe every child should have structure and rules in place, this I believe helps us guide a child. It’s really silly really but here goes, so I haven’t implemented many rules, but the few I did caused so many arguments and the poor kid was always in the middle of them :(. The rules were as follows:
if she is to eat crisps, chocolate and sweets she needs to ask. My reason for this is so we can keep her eating of bad foods to a healthy level. If you don’t have this in place she could potentially be eating unhealthy amounts of high in saturated fats, and sugary foods.
Her mum argued it again and again saying if she is hungry she should be allowed to eat, even know this rule was only for crisps and chocolate 🤦🏻‍♂️. We are not strict, she eats sweets etc daily, but as parents we should keep them at healthy standards.
her Mum was allowing her to have candles in her room at 13, I said she isn’t allowed to light candles in her room. My reasoning for this was due to it being a safety issue, if she was to knock it over, something fell on it and set light, or maybe the cat that is regularly in her room could knock something onto it or over even. I’d prefer her not to have something like this as she is our child and I couldn’t live with myself if something bad happened and she was scarred for life or even worse….
her mum argued this again telling me it’s controlling, she needs to learn, she isn’t stupid. My counter argument is, she isn’t stupid you’re correct but even fully grown adults have died in house fires due to such incidents. Also she liked to play with the candle wax, which in itself creates a danger and proves she isn’t mature enough to be left alone with candles yet.
at 12 she wanted to start using foundation, I didn’t like thought of this and said you can have make up, and even concealer in case you get a spot etc… her mum wasn’t having this and argued this again and again until I eventually just said ok. My reasoning was she had gorgeous tanned skin, no imperfections. Foundation wasn’t needed, if she had really bad skin and it was causing her to have confidence issues etc, I’d have understood. Foundation will block her pores etc, and won’t help with spots etc. we live in a world where kids are trying to be adults to soon.
the only other thing we had in place was no baths after 8 clock, unless you come home late of course. Generally she is home at 3:30, so I was trying to introduce routine and structure into her life, and it’s good practice as this has her all clean, hair done etc by say 9 clock ready for bed. Her says it’s pathetic, and no need, I’m just being controlling.

now I know people are gonna agree and disagree, the problem was there was no medium..,. Everything I implemented was an argument, and a soon as I wasn’t in let her do as she likes. As you can imagine for the kid this isn’t healthy, she is getting mixed signals on the rules which then made me look the bad guy. The child has no rules in place what so ever, no chores, I just feel as much as this keeps the peace in the household, it’s lazy parenting, maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure someone will tell me haha. I’m not even allowed to give her chores, because this then leads to arguments and I then fall out with the mum, I just couldn’t stay in a relationship that I either had to become a yes dad, and have no say in the child’s life, but she wants be to be her dad 🤷🏼‍♂️ it’s so bad that we found out she was on FaceTime to fully grown men with her friend and her mum defended it by saying she wasn’t on her phone, it was her friends. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m like this is a serious duty of care issue, and we shouldn’t be excusing this behaviour. Now don’t get me wrong the kids not a problem at all, as a parent I expect her to huff, puff and argue 😂😂 I can deal with that no problem, but I can’t be fighting with my partner every other day, I can’t image how bad the arguments will become when the kids 15/16 😱.

the final straw was when I said she can’t have a chocolate bar at 10 clock as it’s getting to bed time. Her mum once again pulled a face and started saying what’s the problem, it’s just a chocolate bar. Surely a lot of parents would agree 10 clock is a bit late to be eating chocolate when she will be going bed in next half hour.

anyways, thanks for reading and sorry for the essay, just dunno where to turn.

OP posts:
Sassybooklover · 23/02/2025 16:56

When you got together with your partner, was there a discussion regarding your role within her daughter's life? You stated that your partner told you, that you were her daughter's 'Dad', but clearly she doesn't want you involved as a biological Dad would be. A biological Dad would have a say in discipline, boundaries, rules etc. You believe your 'Dad' role, should be fully involved, whereas your partner, doesn't. You see your role in your step-daughter's life differently to your partner. That to me is the fundamental issue here. Whatever rule or boundary you put in place with your step-daughter, will be dismissed, because your partner does not see that as being your role or place. All I can see is a lot of miss communication on both sides.

Garlicgarlicgarlic · 23/02/2025 19:21

You and your ex girlfriend have broken up. There's not much point in analysing stuff OP, just move on.

crankytoes · 23/02/2025 20:11

OnlyOneAdda · 23/02/2025 16:26

While you have taken great pains to try and sound reasonable in your post and replies your actions do not sound as all reasonable or appropriate.

"Rules" around what teenage girls can and cannot eat is the crux of many an eating disorder. And telling a 13yo girl what she can or cannot put on her face or when she can bath is weird, controlling, creepy and she's well shot of you. In my humble opinion. Which you have invited.

And clearly her Mum has come to think the same. Thank goodness.

Seeing that the girl is lighting candles in her room as a child and her mother is ok with that and she is talking on FaceTime with grown men, I think the mother is doing a questionable job of parenting
Perhaps this is why the OP felt the need to try to mitigate the mother's failure to parent

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StopStartStop · 23/02/2025 20:15

You don't get to rule over her. This should have been nipped in the bud and you should have been sent on your way years ago.

OnlyOneAdda · 23/02/2025 22:19

@crankytoes personally I think candles, incense etc in the bedroom is typical of 13yo girls and that it is appropriate to teach them how use them safely in the same way you teach them to use sharp knives in the kitchen, cross the road etc. If you wouldn't allow this in your house fair enough (and it's not an example I called out) but I don't think that allowing it is a failure to parent. If the child is genuinely talking to strange grown men then that would be a problem...but that assumes it's actually true. We haven't heard the mother's side have we? She has clearly felt strongly enough to end the relationship and I expect her version of events would read very differently...but some of the examples he has given himself are - in my opinion - creepy and controlling.

@StopStartStop - absolutely, this.

Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 23:08

Sassybooklover · 23/02/2025 16:56

When you got together with your partner, was there a discussion regarding your role within her daughter's life? You stated that your partner told you, that you were her daughter's 'Dad', but clearly she doesn't want you involved as a biological Dad would be. A biological Dad would have a say in discipline, boundaries, rules etc. You believe your 'Dad' role, should be fully involved, whereas your partner, doesn't. You see your role in your step-daughter's life differently to your partner. That to me is the fundamental issue here. Whatever rule or boundary you put in place with your step-daughter, will be dismissed, because your partner does not see that as being your role or place. All I can see is a lot of miss communication on both sides.

I totally agree with you on the communication. To be fair I asked this because I wanted honest criticism, or agreement on situations. I’m all about self improvement and if I need to improve in certain aspects, I’m up for doing the change. I see now that I haven’t adapted to her turning into a teenager, and am still parenting her like she is a child. I’ve never been a parent before and everyone’s learning. I have always just wanted the best for her and her future. This has been a good eye opener, and appreciate the input.

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Dave3838 · 23/02/2025 23:11

Anxioustealady · 23/02/2025 14:45

I don't think your rules were that bad, but were you just announcing these rules to your stepdaughter without agreeing them with her mother first?

I'm not a parent yet, but I think it's best to agree an approach beforehand and then tell the children, and try not to undermine each other.

Would you have liked to have children? If so I think it's best you split because you wouldn't have been able to reconcile the different parenting styles and it would cause so many problems later between you two and the siblings.

I didn’t think the rules were that bad, but I think I have come to believe maybe they are a bit strong for a teenager. I’ve never been a parent before so always learning. I think I have carried on the same parenting techniques from being a child to becoming a teenager and a teenager needs a different approach. Thanks for you’re input, much appreciated

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bigboykitty · 23/02/2025 23:24

You're not a parent now. Your rules are that bad and the tone in which you've explained them is a red flag in itself. You seem pretty teflon regarding feedback. But there you go.

DorothyStorm · 24/02/2025 07:05

I thought too many were about limits on food, and appearance. Not good for a teen.

but ask yourself, now you have split up how much parenting are you going to continue to do with this child? The answer is zero by the way, and exactly the reason you overstepped massively as mum‘s boyfriend.

dairydebris · 24/02/2025 07:30

I think you've posted about this before.

The way you are talking as if you are still a parent is concerning.

I think you need to leave them both alone.

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