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18yo Daughter is shoplifting :-(

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Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 10:51

My adult teenage daughter has admitted to shoplifting. she has been producing lots of new makeup and clothes and acting strange in shops so I had suspicions, and when I asked her she said yes she stole them. We are totally shocked, she is on a gap year about to start uni in sept, and is struggling to get a job and has run out of money.
My husband and I immediately said that this is not acceptable and illegal and 'what were you thinking' etc, I've taken the items shes stolen and given them to charity and insisted she pays the value to charity also. We are checking all the jobs shes applying for and recommended she does voluntary work until a job comes. We don't give her any money, she is 18 and needs to get a job. But I am asking for proof everytime she buys things now.

She has a trust fund that we've said is for helping out with living costs when she goes to UNI and not before, but I'm worried now she will use that. Shes 18 so its her money now.

she can cook for herself and does cleaning and chores around the house to help out. but I'm at a loss now. what else can we do?. she said shes ok and was just doing it for the thrill. I am so worried its all our fault.

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churrosconchoc · 28/01/2025 10:57

It will be for the thrill .. years ago I went through a spell but I was much younger. I was trying to be cool. Luckily the novelty wore off as I hated doing it deep down.
Tell her as she's an adult she will find it deeply uncool to be arrested

jotex · 28/01/2025 11:03

As she has a trust fund I’m going to infer that you don’t give her money out of principle and not because you can’t afford to. If she genuinely is applying for jobs and is just having no luck I think this is quite sad. Yes she might legally be an adult but that doesn’t mean she was suddenly ready to take on the world on her own from the day of her birthday. My suggestion to you is to talk openly and seriously with her about the shoplifting, and then help her to get on her feet until she finds a job.

RosePosse · 28/01/2025 11:38

jotex · 28/01/2025 11:03

As she has a trust fund I’m going to infer that you don’t give her money out of principle and not because you can’t afford to. If she genuinely is applying for jobs and is just having no luck I think this is quite sad. Yes she might legally be an adult but that doesn’t mean she was suddenly ready to take on the world on her own from the day of her birthday. My suggestion to you is to talk openly and seriously with her about the shoplifting, and then help her to get on her feet until she finds a job.

I think it's great that you're dealing with the stealing robustly, but I also agree with the above. If she's actively looking for jobs and doing voluntary work, and if you don't want her to access her trust fund until uni, then I think it would be fair for you to give her an allowance if you can afford it.

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ChocolateTruffleAssortment · 28/01/2025 11:39

jotex · 28/01/2025 11:03

As she has a trust fund I’m going to infer that you don’t give her money out of principle and not because you can’t afford to. If she genuinely is applying for jobs and is just having no luck I think this is quite sad. Yes she might legally be an adult but that doesn’t mean she was suddenly ready to take on the world on her own from the day of her birthday. My suggestion to you is to talk openly and seriously with her about the shoplifting, and then help her to get on her feet until she finds a job.

Everyone born about this time got a trust fund, doesn’t mean she’s a trustafarian!

dizzydizzydizzy · 28/01/2025 11:45

Regarding getting a job - can she swim? There is a national shortage of lifeguards and it only takes a week to qualify and costs £300. Both my DCs did this and worked throughout uni and the holidays. DC2 also did it in their gap year and built up a really good cash reserve for uni.

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:40

We don't give her any money, I want her to feel the need for getting a job, she is applying and getting rejected at the moment

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Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:41

dizzydizzydizzy · 28/01/2025 11:45

Regarding getting a job - can she swim? There is a national shortage of lifeguards and it only takes a week to qualify and costs £300. Both my DCs did this and worked throughout uni and the holidays. DC2 also did it in their gap year and built up a really good cash reserve for uni.

Great idea, shes not a great swimmer though

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Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:42

jotex · 28/01/2025 11:03

As she has a trust fund I’m going to infer that you don’t give her money out of principle and not because you can’t afford to. If she genuinely is applying for jobs and is just having no luck I think this is quite sad. Yes she might legally be an adult but that doesn’t mean she was suddenly ready to take on the world on her own from the day of her birthday. My suggestion to you is to talk openly and seriously with her about the shoplifting, and then help her to get on her feet until she finds a job.

We don't give her any money, I want her to feel the need for getting a job, she is applying and getting rejected at the moment

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mashingwachine · 28/01/2025 12:43

Have you ever given her money?

SlaveToAGoldenRetriever · 28/01/2025 12:44

jotex · 28/01/2025 11:03

As she has a trust fund I’m going to infer that you don’t give her money out of principle and not because you can’t afford to. If she genuinely is applying for jobs and is just having no luck I think this is quite sad. Yes she might legally be an adult but that doesn’t mean she was suddenly ready to take on the world on her own from the day of her birthday. My suggestion to you is to talk openly and seriously with her about the shoplifting, and then help her to get on her feet until she finds a job.

This. If she’s struggling to get a job and you don’t want her taking anything out of her trust fund then what exactly do you expect her to live on?

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:47

jotex · 28/01/2025 11:03

As she has a trust fund I’m going to infer that you don’t give her money out of principle and not because you can’t afford to. If she genuinely is applying for jobs and is just having no luck I think this is quite sad. Yes she might legally be an adult but that doesn’t mean she was suddenly ready to take on the world on her own from the day of her birthday. My suggestion to you is to talk openly and seriously with her about the shoplifting, and then help her to get on her feet until she finds a job.

We talked openly, and she said she did it to feel in control :-( all the rejections from the jobs and not knowing yet if she has a firm place at UNI has lead to her feeling out of control, also she feels not able to voice what she wants for fear of conflict. I feel so sad about this.

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SlaveToAGoldenRetriever · 28/01/2025 12:48

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:42

We don't give her any money, I want her to feel the need for getting a job, she is applying and getting rejected at the moment

She can feel the need to get a job all she likes - that doesn’t mean she’s going to magically get one. It’s not like the old days. Part time work is hard to get and I’ve known perfectly capable teens doing 20+ applications only to get rejected/ghosted by each one.

sjs42 · 28/01/2025 12:49

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:40

We don't give her any money, I want her to feel the need for getting a job, she is applying and getting rejected at the moment

You should have given her money IMO.

She's been rejected for jobs and wants makeup and the like to fit in and just live I suppose. If you don't give her money and she can't get a job, then she has no money - what do you think she therefore does in shops? Not saying it's right, just saying that it's a logical thought process.

Jobs are exceptionally difficult to come by. My DC is at uni but has 3 friends on gap years. One doing volunteer work for no pay, one doing a nmw job which took 3 months to find and the other is depressed as fuck after rejection rejection rejection...it's very very difficult for kids of this age these days. Much more difficult than decades ago. If you wanted a job decades ago, you just needed to apply for a handful and you'd probably get one. These days, there are very slim pickings indeed.

SlaveToAGoldenRetriever · 28/01/2025 12:49

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:47

We talked openly, and she said she did it to feel in control :-( all the rejections from the jobs and not knowing yet if she has a firm place at UNI has lead to her feeling out of control, also she feels not able to voice what she wants for fear of conflict. I feel so sad about this.

If your poor DD feels unable to voice her opinions to you for ‘fear of conflict’ then you need to take a long hard look at yourself. By the sound of things OP you’re babying/controlling her whilst also expecting her to act like a fully fledged adult. Make your mind up

sjs42 · 28/01/2025 12:51

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:47

We talked openly, and she said she did it to feel in control :-( all the rejections from the jobs and not knowing yet if she has a firm place at UNI has lead to her feeling out of control, also she feels not able to voice what she wants for fear of conflict. I feel so sad about this.

The rejections and the not knowing re the place are hard. I am still not clear on why you didn't give her money, that being the case.

MioDioMio · 28/01/2025 12:52

What sort of jobs is your DD going for? Hospitality businesses are usually crying out for staff.

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:52

mashingwachine · 28/01/2025 12:43

Have you ever given her money?

not since turning 18, as she did have a job, but left due to personality clashes. and a bad manager, since then shes had funds from grandparents and xmas money, but thats all gone now

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SlaveToAGoldenRetriever · 28/01/2025 12:52

MioDioMio · 28/01/2025 12:52

What sort of jobs is your DD going for? Hospitality businesses are usually crying out for staff.

During the Christmas rush, yes. Now it’s survival mode in hospitality until summer.

Hayley1256 · 28/01/2025 12:53

If your not giving her money whist she finds a job then how are you expecting her to support herself? Of course she will use the trust fund if that's her only source of income

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:54

MioDioMio · 28/01/2025 12:52

What sort of jobs is your DD going for? Hospitality businesses are usually crying out for staff.

shes applying for reception jobs waitressing/barista jobs volunteering at local schools. Bakerys/greggs Boots as a sales assistant.

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Viviennemary · 28/01/2025 12:54

She will end up with a criminal record if sne gets caught. Which will affect her future job prospects.

BarbedButterfly · 28/01/2025 12:55

Ffs, it is all very well saying she needs to get a job but it isn't that easy anymore. You don't sound approachable, which she has pretty much confirmed and I think it is awful you don't help her out. If I was a friend I would be telling her to get her trust fund and find a house share away from you to have agency and control over her life.

Nicesocks · 28/01/2025 12:57

Why isn’t she claiming universal credit? Then she’d have some money for the basics and some support with her job searching.

Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 12:59

sjs42 · 28/01/2025 12:51

The rejections and the not knowing re the place are hard. I am still not clear on why you didn't give her money, that being the case.

not since turning 18, as she did have a job, but left due to personality clashes. and a bad manager, since then shes had funds from grandparents and xmas money, but thats all gone now

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Sylvie777 · 28/01/2025 13:00

Nicesocks · 28/01/2025 12:57

Why isn’t she claiming universal credit? Then she’d have some money for the basics and some support with her job searching.

Is that possible on a gap year?

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