What's your take on immunization?

[elly1255]

This thread isn't about me or immunization for my child. ‼️‼️

I have a friend that has a 9 week old that isn't getting her child her imms due to reasons I do not know.

I just wanted to know do people do this? What's your takes on ims?

My boy has his next week , how was your children after? I have other children but can't remember how they was after the first ones.

Non vaccination is a luxury that people can chose as the majority of others chose to vaccinate. They save lives. They save the lives of those who cannot vaccinate (not through choice- medical reasons)

However there is a risk of complications so it shouldn't be compelled.

Mine barely noticed their injections!

I'd get everything going. Son too old for HPV at school so paid privately for it when he was 13. If chickenpox was available like other countries they'd have that.
I've had four Covid ones, my Dd five as she has MS.
Do not understand not having it done.
Children had mild discomfort but my son loved the sweets they'd give him so kept on asking wasn't he due a shot soon?

My take?

Vaccination has saved millions of lives

Are there some risks? Yes, tiny ones. But there’s more risk from not being vaccinated- especially if we get large numbers of unvaccinated so the disease goes back to circulating freely

Those who opt out are selfishly relying on herd immunity from those who opt in

We are seeing resurgence of diseases like measles that should have been long gone due to anti vaxxers

I agree with pp that it can’t be compulsory, like any medical treatment it’s a choice.
However in some places in the world non immunised kids (without special medical reasons) aren’t allowed into childcare/schools and I would support this

I would struggle to be friends with someone not vaccinating their child (except on medical advice) personally.

I couldn't be friends with someone who chose not to have themselves or their children vaccinated, unless advised against medically. We are so lucky to have free vaccines available readily in this country. Mothers walk for days/weeks in some countries to get vaccines for their babies. yes they are not 100% risk free but nothing is, and so many illness are eradicted or rare now due to vaccines - that would have killed many kids in the past. I wish those reluctant would speak to their GP or nurse about their concerns, as most just Google and get sucked into all sorts of misinformation about vaccines.

My take on immunisation is that it is the obvious choice for any parent with half a brain (unless of course there are medical reasons why immunisation might not be possible).

The only people who think differently are the ones who have got sucked into chappy conspiracy theories on the Internet and sadly lack the critical thinking skills to be able to evaluate these effectively.

A friend of a friend just had measles at 34. Bed bound for 5 weeks, huge long recovery. Scared me!

My take? Vaccinations are better than polio or whooping cough. By a big margin.

If your friend wants a luxury belief, based on other people taking the tiny risk for their children, she's selfish and not very bright.

We are in the middle of a whooping cough epidemic. Measles and diphtheria are back. Unless there are very strong medical reasons why a child cannot be immunized, we need to make huge efforts to get the take up increased. The children who will die from these diseases are the ones who are too young to have had the vaccines. There needs to be a national public education programme.

I don’t think I could continue with that friendship in the same way it perhaps did before. My brain doesn’t even want to comprehend why you would elect to expose your child to the possibility of contracting numerous awful diseases.

We are so incredibly fortunate to be offered a tried, tested, and successful vaccination programme. The tiny risk of side effects I would take over and over again, I say this currently cuddling and rapidly running out of comfort yogurts for my 12 month old who received his vaccines yesterday. Your friend is being utterly irresponsible and selfish.

My take is that it’s downright dangerous and my kids certainly wouldn’t be going near hers again. I work with people who choose not to vaccinate their kids and I just cannot understand their logic.

Tell your friendto google the complications of measles, or to watch a video of a child with whooping cough. Would she want that to be her child? Not only do vaccinations protect those having them, but they protect those who cannot have them.

My child would not be mixing with her child till after their pre-school vaccinations! My kids have mostly been absolutely side-effect free after vaccinations with the exception of my older daughter when she had her Men B jabs in the height of a hot Summer before they started advising to give calpol first - she was a grumpy feverish baby for the rest of the day.

I am pro vax, my children have all had all theirs and so have I, including COVID ones.

I have a friend who was made severely ill as a direct result of a COVID vaccine. She still has them and encourages others to. As would I.

There's always the odd pro vaxxer who pops up saying that there is NO risk when vaccinating, that nobody has ever died or been made ill as a result of them. That's untrue, and doesn't help the cause because anti vaxxers will always find stories to the contrary. Far more important that we establish the fact that there are risks, but they are smaller than the risks of the diseases the vaccines prevent against.

The problem is that younger parents just don't remember the misery of the diseases that we vaccinate against today.

I have crap eyesight and hearing problems due to having had measles back in the 1960s. I remember seeing kids in leg irons due to having had polio. I also had whooping cough and German measles as a child.

Why on earth anyone would want to risk their child getting these horrible illnesses is beyond me.

The charity I fundraise for campaigns for ending polio, which is still endemic in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I'm a scientist working in healthcare and my children have had everything going including chicken pox which we paid for privately. All the scientists and doctors i know vaccinate their kids too.
Vaccines save lives and we're extremely lucky to have them!

My uncle died aged 8 after spending his short life in hospitals after my gran contracted rubella in pregnancy which caused a heart defect.

I'm probably vaccines. My daughter ended up in paeds after a strong immune response to her 4 month jabs. The worst 6 months were 12-18 months when we had to get each of her 1 year jabs done individually and at the hospital so if she had the reaction again we would know the cause - menB. It just makes her scream for a few days. In the grand scheme of things not too bad. I hated her being in the world unprotected.

My uncle had leukemia when I was a child. I remember how utterly vulnerable he was to life after having his stem cell whilst waiting to have every vaccine again.

You're definitely correct. I'm not going to continue the friendship. I don't know why people are starting this "anti vaccine " situation but like I said to her. Regardless of her Covid vaccination dilemma/choice. This isn't the same and children's vaccinations have been round centuries. It's very selfish for the child and other children I completly agree. My sons first ones are next week

Your correct. I haven't kept the friendship as I was being made to be " silly" for wanting my 3rd child vaccinated. Like I said to her my other children was fine apart from being tired and a little agitated nothing else , why would I not vaccinate my 3rd but do it for my first and second. I lost interred in anything she had to say after that stupid comment

Honestly , you're right. I have told her to stop looking at these people on ticktock that need you to watch these stupid videos so they get paid and risk your child's life.

You can get chicken pox vaccinations?! My children have had chicken poxs not my 2 month old though. I'm going to look into that I never knew!

What happened when she had a reaction? , I have extreme health anxiety , although the jabs scare me and make my anxiety awful so does the thought of my children getting poorly , I'll always vaccinate my children this time I'm a little scared as my 8 week old hasn't had a brilliant start to life and temperatures scare the living daylight out of me

As someone who was vaccinated as a child whose just had whooping cough I wouldn't wish it on anyone I have never been so ill for so long and can see how it would kill a baby/child.
They are offered free for a reason and it is to save lives. Those that can should as it also helps protect those that can't (which is very few)

I had a friend and when I discovered she was an anti vaxxer the friendship ended. Stupid, irresponsible woman who should not be allowed to have children imo.

Yes, it's curious that no scientist ever believes the woo on TikTok and other sources that aren't peer reviewed by other scientists isn't it?

DD has a biomedical sciences degree and always has a few choice words for people who think that TikTok, Instagram, Facebook et al are credible resources for scientific "facts".

Please talk to your health professionals and explain how anxious you are this time. They will be able to reassure you and can advise you re temperature spikes etc. I personally gave my children calpol before their jabs and it seemed to help. Good luck and thank you for having your children immunised.

My son lives in America and measles is rife, because of all the anti vaxers.

Yes you can get them privately. Boots do them. It's £75 per jab and they have 2 spaces 4-6 weeks apart. I'm going to be getting it for my 21mo because why wouldn't you vaccinate against something if you can