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Ex Husband not sending back DD’s school uniform

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AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:13

I know there’s been a similar message on this thread, but my issue is with school uniform being kept back. For years I’ve struggled with my daughters’s dad keeping lovely clothes that I’ve sent my daughter to him in. Then having her return in clothes that are too small or just old hand me downs that are of the wrong gender or size etc. My daughter would look so unkept and unloved, that we would get glances from people when we were out with her following pick up. When it came to sending her back or her being picked up on a non-school day, we wouldn’t feel right making her wearing uncomfortable or small clothing and she would ask us not to. She would often get embarrassed about it. Of course, we sent her in our clothing and it wouldn’t return.

Nowadays, she’s picked up on a Friday after school by dad, so is wearing her school uniform. For a while now, the situation has been that she returns with their clothing on and no uniform to speak of. When asked about the missing uniform, we’re told that it will be looked for, sent back, isn’t there, hasn’t been seen or will check the washing pile etc. It never returns. This has gotten worse, so I now have to replace her uniform each week. The entire outfit each week will never return and this over the course of a month is costing me a fortune. My daughter says that she’s seen clothing bits on occasions and has asked to bring them home, only to be told no.

Over the last 4 weeks, I’ve sent an updated reminder list each week of the uniform which hasn’t been returned. I’ve included an image of my daughter in the uniform before going to her dads, sizing, names in labels and brand descriptions etc. She’s lost 4 black PE hoodies in 4 weeks, so 1 per week along with everything else. Last night I asked that he bring the uniform id bought this month back today at drop off.

He arrived and said that he’d forgotten it all. I sent a message to our group chat (with both stepparents and parents on it) to say that we were struggling to fund all of the uniform that doesn’t come home. I confirmed that my daughter now had no uniform left and needed the whole lot to be bought again (I’d lost an outfit per week and most things come in packs of 2, so I get 2 packs of 2). I asked that we both go halves in buying the school uniform from now on. Then I asked that on a Friday night, my daughters dad let’s her get changed out of her uniform at home or school (we live beside the school) and that the school uniform is left here. That was it isn’t lost.

The reply was that my daughter's step mum had asked her ex husband to drop the missing uniform off tonight. He’s not long been and I was handed a small bag of uniform items that were ‘lost’ last year and now don’t fit. Nothing from this year that fits. I’ve now asked three times about items being replaced and going halves and they continue to ignore that bit. They’ve also ignored the request to drop off bits. At a loss as to what to do 😭

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AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:40

@DaxTornado Going to theirs just gets the same end result unfortunately. In terms of the situation escalating, he has problems with anger so going with another male etc would just aggravate the situation. I’m hoping the school will agree to let her change there. It would solve it immediately. Fingers crossed!

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ButterCrackers · 30/06/2024 22:41

Send your ex a bill for the clothes. If you can order online then tell him to order the uniform and have it delivered to his place on a weekly basis.

AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:43

@LadyGaGasPokerFace I think you might be onto something. Only trouble is that in these situations, it’s always the child who is punished or feels differently to others. I’ll never understand why these abusive dickheads don’t get that it’s their own flesh and blood who they punish, not me. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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ColourMeBlue · 30/06/2024 22:43

Actually,I think I would go into the school at 2.45,and change her clothes yourself ready for her father to pick her up.Its blatantly a power trip for him.Nobody loses that many school uniforms.

AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:44

@ButterCrackers Ive sent an online order with the basket contents photographed and link sent over for them to buy. They’ve just ignored!

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AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:47

@ColourMeBlue My work hours are until 4.30, so unless I change jobs, I can’t get there that early. What I can do is ask the school about helping her to change and leave inform there. Then if they say no, I wondered if I could put her into wraparound care, so that I can make my own way over after work. I know he would still attempt to pick her up against my will, so wondered if where I stand in telling school that I don’t give my consent for him to collect her. I don’t know what the law is around that, but that’s an option if they legally have to go with what I’ve said. What a mess, all for the sake of giving back something!

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Taciturn · 30/06/2024 22:48

Option A - have your daughter change at school and meet at the Friday pick up purely to collect the school clothes
Option B - have him keep her Sunday night and drop her to school on Monday morning (one hopes in full school uniform)
I would try option B first.

AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:48

@mitogoshi Im definitely going to ask this thanks 😊

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ButterCrackers · 30/06/2024 22:50

AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:44

@ButterCrackers Ive sent an online order with the basket contents photographed and link sent over for them to buy. They’ve just ignored!

He can’t look after his child properly. I hope there’s a way for you to stop your child staying at his place.

AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:50

@Taciturn He won’t do any school runs which mean early wake ups or responsibilities for packed lunches etc. That’s why he’ll only have her on a weekend evening, no responsibility. 🙄 I’m going to go with Option A and hope it all works out that way.

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AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:51

@ButterCrackers With the fantastic system in place, no such luck!

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BuggeryBumFlaps · 30/06/2024 22:54

Buy a bulk of plain leggins and t shirts for her to wear to school in a Friday. Show school the receipts and explain what has been happening. They either let her change at school or she goes to school in her old clothes.

Mirabai · 30/06/2024 22:55

Is this court ordered contact? Is he doing every weekend or EOW?

If so I would go back to court over this. You can’t be buying new uniform every week - that’s a major expense apart from anything else.

I also think you need to talk to the head about ex and also about the family support worker. If she is believing other abusive dickheads and passing on confidential info she will be putting women in danger.

TheFormidableMrsC · 30/06/2024 22:58

Do you have a court order??

TheFormidableMrsC · 30/06/2024 23:01

Mirabai · 30/06/2024 22:55

Is this court ordered contact? Is he doing every weekend or EOW?

If so I would go back to court over this. You can’t be buying new uniform every week - that’s a major expense apart from anything else.

I also think you need to talk to the head about ex and also about the family support worker. If she is believing other abusive dickheads and passing on confidential info she will be putting women in danger.

I agree with this. Have a meeting with the head teacher and say you will be going to the Governers if they insist on supporting this abuse of your child. I'd also be telling them that you are no longer prepared to buy new school uniform weekly. You have to fight fire with fire here. I do totally understand that you're trying to protect your child, I've had similar fuckwittery from my ex husband in the past and it's outright abusive.

If you have a court order, I'd be going back over this. Seek a variation on the basis that you cannot afford to replace uniform weekly. I'm so sorry, it's so shit.

Donotneedit · 30/06/2024 23:04

It’s financial abuse, not much you can do without pulling your child into it one way or another. Absolute pricks, so sorry OP.
you can’t stop dad collecting her if he has parental responsibility.
as you know, social services will not care.
getting changed at school will single her out and may be embarrassing for her/escalate the problem between you and put her in the middle. If school agree they would need to be very skilful but if she is leaving with the other kids I think it won’t work.
your ex may enjoy the power trip over you so any protests/requests for him to sort it out will be pointless and may make it worse
is there anyway she can go for a quick play date after school and be collected from there instead? Changing at a mates house feel a bit less weird

Enough4me · 30/06/2024 23:05

OP I'd love to say it gets easier but, in my experience, if an ex is angry, controlling or a game player (mine is all 3) it won't.

I had what I called "shirt-gate", I was buying large sets in ASDA in the end as ex kept my DS shirts. Nothing else thankfully. I realised asking him didn't work and so just kept buying more. My DD (DS older sister) bought a load back and as I had stopped asking, he then stopped his game as it wasn't fun for him anymore.

His current game is manipulating DS to live with him because he's angry DD is old enough to not have to go over (he let's DS have his way on not behaving in school despite suspension).

Wherever possible don't feed his game and try to get the school involved.

Donotneedit · 30/06/2024 23:07

TheFormidableMrsC · 30/06/2024 23:01

I agree with this. Have a meeting with the head teacher and say you will be going to the Governers if they insist on supporting this abuse of your child. I'd also be telling them that you are no longer prepared to buy new school uniform weekly. You have to fight fire with fire here. I do totally understand that you're trying to protect your child, I've had similar fuckwittery from my ex husband in the past and it's outright abusive.

If you have a court order, I'd be going back over this. Seek a variation on the basis that you cannot afford to replace uniform weekly. I'm so sorry, it's so shit.

I totally agree with the sentiment, but you could easily be painted as being completely unreasonable by an irritable judge, who doesn’t understand the coercive nature of what’s going on (and they don’t, they really don’t). And once you’re in court and you’ve opened up the order anything can happen, they can change any aspect of it. I would not dare go to court over something like this, as outrageous as it is.

Peeny · 30/06/2024 23:07

I’ve had a few children who got changed at school just before the bell on a Friday as the other parent was collecting them. I was always happy to keep the uniform in the class over the weekend so mum/dad could collect the next week. I also had a few parents who used to visit the school uniform bank fortnightly as clothes they’d sent the child in to the other parent hadn’t been returned.

As PP’s have said I’d be emailing the school the the FSW’r is sharing information they shouldn’t.

Thereislightattheendofthetunnel · 30/06/2024 23:10

Does your exhusband and daughter’s stepmother have any children together that may be benefiting from the ‘lost’ uniforms so that you are funding their children’s schoolwear?

KittyCatKit · 30/06/2024 23:17

No advice OP but just want to say you have the patience of a saint I would of exploded by now! What an absolute twat he is

Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 30/06/2024 23:20

AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 22:21

@Needmorelego I’ve tried this, but it’s not the laundry that’s the problem. It’s the effort to make sure that they get ‘lost.’ She’s tried to bring them back in a bag and it’s been taken off of her.

Abusive cunt. He’s loving it. He’s using his daughter as a pawn to hurt you. He’s happy she’s humiliated because it hurts you.

Utter scum.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 30/06/2024 23:32

@AddamsFamily does ex p's new girlfriend have daughters also?? is she keeping your new stuff for them?????

AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 23:39

@Thereislightattheendofthetunnel They do yes, but a completely different gender and age group. A possibility for sure, but I’m guessing they’re not even benefitting besides punishment!

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AddamsFamily · 30/06/2024 23:43

@Enough4me I hear you. I thought years ago that it might end. Every now and again it seems to die down a bit, seemingly. Then the slightest thing might set him off with renewed energy. He’s been keeping her clothes for years and her school uniform for the last 3 years. I started off by asking and then realising there was satisfaction there. I hoped that grey rocking the behaviour would lead to it ending. No such luck! Now we’re at a point where I’ve had to bring it up because my ignoring has lead to an increase in the behaviour and I can’t afford to ignore it anymore. I’m definitely getting the school involved in the uniform issue now though.

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