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How to remove DD (20)'s social media content from porn sites?

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lawn · 20/06/2024 11:51

Gentle replies only please, we're feeling pretty fragile.

Yesterday DD's toxic ex sent me a link to a porn chatroom where guys have collected images and videos of DD from the age of 16 up to the present day. This is how we found out she'd been groomed at a young age to do some "camming", and that's the first thing we are processing (and accessing therapy for her to heal from).

We have found the Internet Watch Foundation tool for removing the under-18 content but the old videos or DD are all collected together with TikToks from when she was 18 (account now deleted) and very recent holiday photos of her in a bikini etc from her current Instagram.

My question is, is there any way to get the over-18 social media content removed from these sites as well as the underage stuff? All the resources I've found so far are for nonconsensual sexual imagery, revenge porn etc. This is stuff she uploaded herself, but not as porn.

I realise this is generally a losing battle but at least want to give it a go. Does anyone have any links or experience of this, or know any organisations we can talk to?

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lawn · 21/06/2024 14:21

@Ws2210 @Spaghetti127 Thanks for the Revenge Porn Helpline suggestion. We have an appointment to talk to the police next week but I decided to call the helpline as well and they were lovely - it was good to talk to someone who gets it, if nothing else. As I said, this isn't actually Revenge Porn/NCII so there's not much they can do, but they said to come back to them if we don't get anywhere with the police + Internet Watch Foundation - they didn't just wash their hands of us. Very comforting.

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TheArtfulWriter · 21/06/2024 14:28

Contact a specialist social media/internet law solicitor.

Edited after reading - I would strongly advice her to also restrict what she posts on Instagram even if it's now private. There's nothing to prevent people from taking screenshots and sending them on, unless her Instagram is limited to a very small circle of people she knows well.

Gcsunnyside23 · 21/06/2024 14:31

lawn · 20/06/2024 20:10

Thank you so much @Tosstyhat, that means a lot

I was just going to add this too, the kind and supportive response you've shown to your daughter will help her so much in healing from this. I hope counselling helps her and sheight fund now it's in the open and with you supporting her she can finally move in. I hope you're able to get it all scrubbed
But if it ever comes out later tell her she can deny if she wants and say it's revenge from an ex using AI. Or she can hold her head up and tell the truth that it was underage and she was groomed into it. She doesn't need to feel ashamed, someone took advantage of her in a vulnerable time

lawn · 21/06/2024 14:44

@Gcsunnyside23 that's a beautiful response, thank you so much. Unfortunately she is still blaming herself but we have talked that through at length and she is beginning to see the truth of it (on a rational level at least). As you say, hopefully therapy will help build her back up again.

I can say this: the ex has accidentally done her a big favour by sending the material to me - it's had the opposite result from the one he was after.

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IWantToBeASleepingCat · 21/06/2024 14:48

Police got all my daughters off.. her ex husband did revenge porn.
It's going to court soon.
He's looking at a 2 year prison term.

lawn · 21/06/2024 14:50

TheArtfulWriter · 21/06/2024 14:28

Contact a specialist social media/internet law solicitor.

Edited after reading - I would strongly advice her to also restrict what she posts on Instagram even if it's now private. There's nothing to prevent people from taking screenshots and sending them on, unless her Instagram is limited to a very small circle of people she knows well.

Edited

Thanks - yes we've talked today about her possibly deleting her instagram (she came off TikTok years ago because that's where the grooming started) - even if she then starts again and just adds people she knows and trusts. As it stands, she deleted tens of thousands of followers after this happened, and is down to a few hundred but there's still the chance that one of those people is the one who posts her now-"private" photos on porn sites. She's having a think about her options.

Yes a social media/internet law solicitor is what I was looking for - someone has posted a good suggestion on this thread and I will welcome any more.

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lawn · 21/06/2024 14:52

Solidarity with you and your daughter @IWantToBeASleepingCat . That's a very brave thing to do.

DD's case slightly falls between at least two stools unfortunately but we're talking to the police next week and hoping they can help - at least with the underage videos.

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lawn · 21/06/2024 15:08

@TheArtfulWriter sorry correction: I posted in Legal Matters and someone suggested a solicitor on that thread

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Verite1 · 21/06/2024 15:14

How bad is the stuff she posted herself. You mentioned bikini shots. If you can get the underage cam stuff removed (which you should be able to ) does it really matter if a load of saddos have uploaded bikini shots of her. It probably happens frequently whenever anyone uploads slightly risqué photos - it's just that usually people won't have a malicious ex stirring things up! Also, if it doesn't mention her surname (which I think you said above) it is not anything that could be found by a google search presumably?

lawn · 21/06/2024 15:14

TheHorneSection · 21/06/2024 15:03

Thank you @TheHorneSection

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lawn · 21/06/2024 15:20

Verite1 · 21/06/2024 15:14

How bad is the stuff she posted herself. You mentioned bikini shots. If you can get the underage cam stuff removed (which you should be able to ) does it really matter if a load of saddos have uploaded bikini shots of her. It probably happens frequently whenever anyone uploads slightly risqué photos - it's just that usually people won't have a malicious ex stirring things up! Also, if it doesn't mention her surname (which I think you said above) it is not anything that could be found by a google search presumably?

Yes the stuff she posted is not bad and she's coming to terms with the fact that it may be on porn sites forever - for the reasons you mention. Could happen to anyone and most people even never find out themselves. We'll do what we can, though, and appreciate all the pointers.

And yes let's hope we can get the underage stuff taken down. The only hurdle seems to be proving she was under 18 - the IWF won't do anything without proof, although we will talk through that with the police as it was recorded without her consent.

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JFDIYOLO · 21/06/2024 15:49

All the best to you. Hopefully she'll have support to help her recover.

The ex's behaviour does read as stalking,

especially cyberstalking. This is a helpful read, including 'substantial adverse effect' of the behaviour on the victim.

"Stalking may be understood as a pattern of Fixated, Obsessive, Unwanted and Repeated (FOUR) behaviour which is intrusive:'
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/stalking-or-harassment

Stalking or Harassment | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/stalking-or-harassment

lawn · 21/06/2024 15:58

JFDIYOLO · 21/06/2024 15:49

All the best to you. Hopefully she'll have support to help her recover.

The ex's behaviour does read as stalking,

especially cyberstalking. This is a helpful read, including 'substantial adverse effect' of the behaviour on the victim.

"Stalking may be understood as a pattern of Fixated, Obsessive, Unwanted and Repeated (FOUR) behaviour which is intrusive:'
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/stalking-or-harassment

Thanks @JFDIYOLO. We had decided against reporting him for stalking/harassment as my message to him said we'd do that if he contacted her again - and he hasn't - but since the police are coming to talk to us next week anyway, we may talk that through with them as well as the online imagery. DD is now quite keen to have action taken against him.

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JFDIYOLO · 22/06/2024 00:18

That sounds a good move - he may well go back on it and she'd have the constant uncertainty of never quite knowing if he'd do it again. Or if he'd do it to another girl. Evidence of a profile of offending could be valuable to the police if he went on to do it (or worse) again.

amispeakingintongues · 22/06/2024 00:55

SuperGreens · 20/06/2024 12:23

You should be reporting him for stalking, the police take using different numbers when you've blocked them already very seriously. The cyber stalking and revenge posts from when she was a minor will just add to the case. I would definitely report him, even if it's not enough for charges now, if he carries on in any capacity after he's been warned by them he will be deep trouble.

Yes this

tearingitu · 22/06/2024 12:27

Does she hope to have a career in the public eye, like an actress or an influencer?
Otherwise with the amount of these images out there surely they will disappear into the masses?
It sounds so consuming for you DD and it does feel she needs a different therapist and to continue on the therapy to come to terms with this (sorry I know you didn't want this advice)

Superscientist · 22/06/2024 14:47

The more I hear about social media I more I want nothing to do with it.
I really would be encouraging her to remove it completely or not to post photos of herself
There was a piece on woman's hour recently about the increase on content from 3-6 year olds who had been groomed into creating sexual images of themselves and they also mentioned software that turned clothed photos into nudes. Just because she is wearing clothing in photos shared on Instagram it doesn't mean she would be still clothed when they were uploaded to these sites.
The internet is broken

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