Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Parenting

For free parenting resources please check out the Early Years Alliance's Family Corner.

Newborn - when does the hell end?!

85 replies

jhlondon · 15/11/2023 17:01

I have a 7 week old baby girl, turning 8 weeks on Saturday.
I prayed long and hard for her and had an easy pregnancy.
Was so excited for her arrival and now she's here I'm really struggling.
It's been a long brutal, horrific, exhausting 7 weeks.
I feel so depleted, motherhood isn't what I expected it to be!

I love her so much but also hate being around her and feel so guilty about that, I know she needs me and I wish I could give more to her.

This past week she's become so fussy and fights being put to sleep during the day and wants to contact nap, but I feel so restricted having her on me, night time she's ok can get 2-3 hours between each feed.
We combo feed which makes it slightly easier than when I was ebf.
When does this hell end? I'm so desperate 😔

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
jhlondon · 16/11/2023 10:43

ImustLearn2Cook · 16/11/2023 03:43

@jhlondon It does get better and easier and you will get more than 2-3 hrs sleep eventually. Hang in there. I remember how brutal the newborn stage was and being utterly exhausted (more than I ever have in my entire life).

Here’s some tips that helped me, I hope some of them help you.

At first I bought a fabric sling but it was uncomfortable for me. So, I bought a BabyBjorn carrier. I felt that it supported my baby well and was easier to put her in it. Also, it was so much more physically comfortable for me. And I could feel a bit of freedom to do stuff while she had her contact naps. (I am in Australia so not sure if this particular brand is available in the UK). It was a total game changer for me. It was amazing the difference it made to be able to carry her and have my arms free.

She breastfed a lot. I got myself set up and comfortable with snacks and water and binge watched my favourite shows that made me feel good.

I made sure that I got out of the house, went to a cafe or something that helped me relax.

I cut down on housework as much as I could. You have to give yourself a break. It’s ok to lower your usual standards a bit. You’re in survival mode now.

My dd’s dad is a shift worker and I get how hard it is for both of you. But you need sleep too and you are both parents and a team. While he has some time at home get him to look after the baby and get some sleep. I would lie in the bed and breastfeed on my side and get dp to watch to make sure I didn’t roll on her and then he would take her when she came off the boob and let me sleep. Bonding time for dad and baby. Sleep time for mum.

I bought the wonder weeks book and it really helped me to know this newborn behaviour was normal and so were my feelings. It has some very honest quotes from parents going through the newborn phase.

https://www.thewonderweeks.com/order-the-wonder-weeks-united-kingdom/

Thank you, yes I'm very much in survival mode at the moment, especially the days when hubby is working 10-10pm

OP posts:
jhlondon · 16/11/2023 10:46

Islandermummy · 16/11/2023 03:45

Hi OP. I can't make any promises of course, but I found things started to get easier at about 10 weeks. A few longer sleeps make ALL the difference, and you will get there soon!

Some people find the newborn bit easy, but hand on heart, for me it has been the hardest part (so far!) and after exiting the sleepless, constant breastfeeding/pumping days, everything seemed sunnier.

Sleep deprivation is really rough, particularly when you don't know when you'll ever be able to sleep for 6 hours in a row... if there is any way you can get your partner to do a longer shift with the baby so you can get a little sleep... do!

I hesitated to ask my husband when he was working, and regret it a bit now. Even saying that 4am - 8am he's "on duty" a few times could make a huge difference, if you get a few chunks of sleep. It is possible to go to work and do a full day's work after a broken night (I know, I've done it quite a few times when DD has been teething!) if it's not all the time. So although you're partner is working (and I'm sure supporting you in loads of other ways), perhaps you can encourage him to give you a bit more of a break. It'll also be rewarding for him to help relieve you from feeling exhausted and miserable

Hubby has been really great, I really can't complain there, depending on his shift work, he'll do late feeds, or 4am feed, on his days off he makes sure I go upstairs and nap for an hour or have a hot bath, he's been a God send, not sure how I would have managed this without him

OP posts:
jhlondon · 16/11/2023 10:51

Summermeadowflowers · 16/11/2023 04:08

Both mine went through a very fussy stage between 6-8 weeks. DD (now almost 4 months) nearly killed me! Even though it’s not my first rodeo I did feel a little down at the thought of endless days walking around with a fussy baby.

It gets easier. Also ignore flippant posts. I know people mean well but it is hard when you’re in the depths of despair reading those posts where you just get told ‘sling.’ Yes, slings are great but they aren’t a magic solution. Mine hurts my back and I know I’m putting it on correctly, I leak milk when it is on and the myth you can do everything is just that.c a myth - has anyone tried to sweep the mess up from under a table with a baby in a sling!?

I don’t want to jinx myself but I think my DD is just starting to consolidate her naps a bit. Today we had three naps of 45 minutes, an hour and about half an hour. Which probably isn’t enough but she’s a bit of a swine for fighting day naps.

I can tell you a portable pump is life changing though Smile

Thanks so much.
Yes have a portable pump, but very large and often babe ends up pressing buttons on it!

OP posts:

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

fairymary87 · 16/11/2023 10:56

Honestly it does end, but at the time it feels like it never does. it's ok to move on from breastfeeding after everything as you've done so well to do what you have done. You're just as important as the baby xxxx

fearfuloffluff · 16/11/2023 10:59

Re doing something wrong compared to the other new mums you know on a forum - babies are just different and it's down to luck what you get.

DC1 cried and fussed a lot. DC2 would literally be happy watching the washing machine do a full cycle. Babies are as different as adults. Some are happy go lucky glass half full types, some are glass half empty sensitive souls. Some are just wired to be active and find it very frustrating to be a baby.

When you look back, you'll see how your baby in this period fits in with their developing personality. Babies who are a bit harder to please can be inquisitive, intelligent, feisty creatures as they grow.

I used to find it helped to go out and look at other babies - what a six month old or one year old is like - that will be you and your baby in the blink of an eye.

Re the babies in your family. If you had a young niece or sister come round to help, would you give her the full story, warts and all? Probably not!

Islandermummy · 16/11/2023 11:03

Ah good to hear @jhlondon. Mine was wonderful too but I think I wasn't good enough at communicating what I needed sometimes. I think part of it was I wanted him to think I was a really good wife and mum. Silly really!

As to your post about other mums: I know how you feel. I had a friend who was a single mum who made it look effortless and was loving every moment. Whereas even with all the support I had, it felt hard for me. So I felt a bit inadequate about that. But! Different babies are different... Mine didn't sleep at night much and was fussy (especially in the evenings). But then she turned a corner and so did I! DD became a happy-go-lucky, "easy" baby who sleeps well. You're not doing anything wrong.

I agree with PP who have used a pause. Sometimes babies squawk for a moment to settle themselves (not full crying for mummy for help). Waiting a moment - not long - before you pick them up sometimes reveals they are still half asleep and will settle down.

Junebug22 · 16/11/2023 11:11

It’s hard to believe it at the time but it WILL honestly get better. My son is almost 18 months and it’s still hard work but NOTHING like the newborn stage. I definitely think it’s the broken, lack of sleep that does you in.

I bought the Baby Bjorn Mini Carrier. It was really easy to get on and off without help. I would put my baby in it and go for an hour long walk listening to a podcast or voicenote messages from my work friend (these were a GODSEND. I don’t know if she realises how much of a lifeline it was just hearing her chat away about the school, what she was up to, the dogs, her own experience of newborn life etc. And I’d then voicenote her back). I’d do this in winter too and just put on a huge puffy coat or take an umbrella. Baby had reflux so until we got gaviscon he went through a phase of being sick constantly or crying when laid flat but would nod off immediately in the carrier.
Walks with the pram -again listen to music or a podcast or audiobook or just enjoy the fresh air. Bonus if you can find someone else nearby on Mat leave. I found a group of about 6 of us with babies born within weeks of each other, so it was usually easy to find a friend to go out with. People are more honest in person than they are over group chats about new motherhood btw!

The Huckleberry app is quite good for info on sleep/naps in terms of wake windows once baby is a little older. It might give you some reassurance for the future!

12 weeks seemed to be the gamechanger for us (and lots of other people). We went from enduring screaming fits from 5pm-8pm (every.single.night.) to a much happier baby. So much is linked to their wee digestive systems! Then once we got gaviscon, raised the top of his cot and pram etc. we also noticed a huge improvement.

Our son didn’t start “sleeping through” (7pm-5am) until he was about 12 months old. Prior to that he was still waking once from about 6 months onwards. Then at about 14 months he started doing 7pm-6am/7am. Some people “get lucky” with sleep -we tried everything, got advice from everyone, read up on sleep, and eventually I just said enough was enough and he’d start sleeping through when he was ready. And he did!!

Just know you aren’t alone or a bad mum. The newborn stage is brutal. There’s no other word for it. I did the sobbing/shouting at him too, I thought horrible things, fantasised about my “old life”, cried in the shower so no could hear me… and I still loved my baby. Sleep deprivation is horrific. Once baby starts sleeping longer stretches (by which I mean you get a 4 hour stretch, wake up, another 3-4 hour stretch) you will be AMAZED at the difference. Your body does also adapt to the new sleep pattern. I went back to work when baby was 8 months and I look back now and think “how was I managing on 6-7 hours of broken sleep??” but you do.

And it’s okay if you’re not enjoying it. My husband and I are loving the toddler stage but will never do the baby stage again. Everyone’s different and that’s okay!

justanothermanicmonday1 · 16/11/2023 11:15

Summermeadowflowers · 16/11/2023 09:22

@justanothermanicmonday1 Flowers that wasn’t the intention at all. As you can see from the time I posted, I am also dealing with a young baby! But I do find sometimes certain pieces of advice on here can become quite meaningless as they get trotted out so often they aren’t even sometimes backed up with context - ‘sling’ ‘co sleep’ ‘puddlesuit’ being three that come to mind! And if you are really struggling and those things don’t work it can make you feel a bit useless, as it is easy really.

I love slings and I’m actually demonstrating how to use one later to a group so I’m not anti them but I also know they aren’t a catch all.

I appreciate your response and for clarifying 💐

BuffaloCauliflower · 16/11/2023 13:53

jhlondon · 16/11/2023 10:40

Yes I think she might be colicky
Dad side is all lactose intolerant and I'm afraid she might be too, so trying to bf for as long as poss, just while he digestive system matures a bit more.
HV told me to give her infancol, which kinda works

@jhlondon just picking up on this comment of yours - if she’s very unhappy all the time, and ‘colicky’, have you considered possible cows milk protein allergy? Especially if there are family with dairy issues. Colic is a symptom not a diagnosis, and a very unhappy and fussy baby may well have something additional going on. The babies I know who were so unhappy relentlessly all ultimately had CMPA (though of course this is a small sample and won’t always be the case) If that is what’s upsetting her CMP in both formula and through your milk if you’re eating dairy would be causing an issue.
Alongside being unhappy, is she windy? Pulling knees up like she’s uncomfortable? Any stomach swelling? Poo that seems odd?

Newmama20232023 · 16/11/2023 14:49

@jhlondon this was me 5 months ago! My LO got easier from 12 weeks and I started to properly enjoy my mat leave from about 4 months onwards. I can’t even remember the last time he contact napped on me (at one point it was every single nap!). You are in the thick of it right now but just take each day at a time and it will get better I promise xx

New posts on this thread. Refresh page