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Would you have a repeat playdate or not?

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Goldbar · 12/08/2023 13:45

Interested in people's views on this situation. Apologies in advance for the length!

I have a friend I've known for a long time (pre-DC) with a DC similar age to mine, 5yo. Her DC (let's call them Blake) is very sensitive, articulate, spoke early on and an early reader - altogether a bright spark and likes chatting to adults and apparently top of the class at school. My DC (let's call them Quinn) is perhaps on the more boisterous end of the spectrum, loves running and climbing and during the toddler years I had to be quite firm to make sure they were safe and didn't bother others, though they've turned into a fairly easy-going and chilled 5yo and great with their baby sibling (who was with grandparents and does not make a direct appearance in this story 😂!). My friend is a fairly gentle parent and likes to validate her child's feelings and opinions, which I don't disagree with so long as not taken to extremes.

We do playdates occasionally, more often in the holidays. Our latest was at an adventure playground/picnic spot. I arrived with my child and Blake was doing an activity book. I suggested that the kids go and play, but Blake said they didn't want to play with Quinn and wanted to do the book. My friend didn't say anything. So I suggested that Quinn go off and play and maybe Blake could join later. Quinn found some other children to play with and they were playing shops and chasing games and stuff like that. Blake stopped doing the book and was upset that Quinn was playing with other children. My friend said, "I know, you're upset because Quinn went off and left you. That wasn't a very nice thing for a friend to do, was it?" I suggested that Blake join the group, but Blake only wanted to play with Quinn, not the other children. Eventually, they played for a bit in the sandpit together.

During the picnic, Blake had a toy with them which Quinn wanted to see. Blake said to Quinn, "You can't play with it because it's mine not yours". My friend said, "Yes, we don't have to share our special things, do we Blake?" I was a bit nonplussed, but I said, "Yes, it's fine to have special things which we just keep for ourselves". I could see Quinn was also a bit bemused by the whole thing, so I told Quinn that I have a race up the climbing-frame with them for a bit. But then my friend said, "Oh, I was going to finish telling you about what we were talking about before..." So I ended up having to stay and listen until she finished her story. By which time (5-10 minutes later), Quinn, thoroughly bored, had gone off to play with some of the children from before. At this point, Blake (still sitting next to us) said, "Quinn didn't finish their lunch and they went off again, that's bad, mummy, isn't it? Quinn is so naughty". My friend made a comment about it not being nice to leave people out. I suggested to Blake to go and play with Quinn but then Blake got upset because Quinn wanted to climb on the climbing-nets rather than make stuff in the sandpit. My friend then said to me, "Quinn is a handful, aren't they? It must be hard dealing with all this with the new baby". Which annoyed me perhaps unfairly because Quinn is actually quite laid-back and helpful and affectionate with the baby.

By now, my patience was wearing thin so I suggested getting the kids ice cream. But apparently Blake doesn't eat ice cream anymore since the whole family are trying to make healthier choices. So (and I know I was in the wrong at this point (😂) I said, "Well, Quinn does eat ice cream" and bought Quinn an ice-cream from the ice-cream van. Hence one upset Blake and one slightly huffy friend. They left soon afterwards. I've since had a message saying "Was nice to catch up. Maybe we could do another meet-up soon when Quinn is more in the mood to play with Blake and doesn't need so much of your time. Are you free next week?"

Am I being oversensitive to be a bit irritated by the whole thing? AIBU to think meet-ups without kids would be better for a bit?

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PurplePeopleEaterParty · 12/08/2023 14:23

Sorry, I'm also in the "you aren't friends" camp. No matter how lovely she is without kids around, she is being really passive aggressive towards you which makes me think she resents you for something. I'd avoid her like the plague tbh

80skid · 12/08/2023 14:24

Sounds best not repeated. Fancy taking a child to a playground and do a book based activity and expecting another child to forego the playground to do so too.

Your child sounds independent, resilient and rather lovely, definitely worthy of the ice cream!
Maybe a play date at home if your friend is worth the additional try? Or maybe you could meet up just the two of you? She sounds pretty judgy, giving her child his opinions and then criticising your child.

wildthingsinthenight · 12/08/2023 14:25

Too much like hard work!
I would give them a wide berth.
That side swipe in the message is not on either

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Goldbar · 12/08/2023 13:55

She is honestly lovely and interesting without children around 😂! I think she just takes her responsibility towards her child to parent sensitively and "responsively" very seriously.

Lovely without the DC but a rude almost nasty individual about your DS. I would let her friendship go, and if she pushed I would tell her why.

Bemyclementine · 12/08/2023 14:26

Why didn't you say "well, Blake, you didn't want to play with Quinn. Qinn is allowed to do what they want as much as you are

^ this is what I was going to say. "You told Quinn you didn't want to play with them " stop being such a pretentious twerp Blakes mum

HarrietJet · 12/08/2023 14:28

Bemyclementine · 12/08/2023 14:26

Why didn't you say "well, Blake, you didn't want to play with Quinn. Qinn is allowed to do what they want as much as you are

^ this is what I was going to say. "You told Quinn you didn't want to play with them " stop being such a pretentious twerp Blakes mum

Exactly. Why didn't you defend your own child, op? She sounds nuts, but you didn't challenge a word of it.

DowntonCrabby · 12/08/2023 14:33

I’d roll my eyes at the PA comments/ messages and batshit parenting and definitely wouldn’t meet again, I’d struggle to find much common ground with someone who parents so differently.
Poor Blake though, that kid could have a tough life ahead thanks to his DM.

prescribingmum · 12/08/2023 14:40

Parenting sensibly and responsibly doesn’t mean you discredit and belittle other children in the process. I wouldn’t be letting my child play around hers as she’s made it clear they’re always in the wrong and hers can do no wrong.

I have friends who use gentle parenting - when reassuring their children, they don’t spend the entire time blaming another child for the situation. I’d go so far as to say he’s picked up from her the attitude about yours being ‘naughty’ because he didn’t finish his food. If mine saw another child hadn’t finished yet but it wouldn’t cross their mind to think of the other child as worse behaved for it

Ladybug14 · 12/08/2023 14:40

Seriously....this woman is lovely? I'll need to take your word for that as she seems like a right manipulative b*tch to me

I'd reply saying

'Yes let's meet up when Blake is happy to act like a 5 year old and not a whiny tell tale 2 year old'

PacManMom · 12/08/2023 14:43

I'd reply "no thank you."

Mamaraven · 12/08/2023 14:59

I think this woman missed the point of a playdate & so did her kid! Activity books are for when your kid is bored & on their tod at home or when you're traveling to keep them occupied. On a playdate the whole point is so your kids can socialise & run around waring themselves out! If anything she should have been encouraging her kid to play! That's what you're all there for right!?don't think I could have held back & said nothing & so glad you took charge when it came to ice-cream.

OnePlusOneEqualsThree · 12/08/2023 15:02

She sounds like a passive aggressive bully op.

Goldbar · 12/08/2023 15:04

xyz111 · 12/08/2023 14:12

Is this a one off, or is this usually how play dates pan out?

This was the worst so far. There have always been elements though, but tbh my DC was what you might term a "challenging" toddler. Not so much tantrums but not listening, pushing the boundaries, running off, throwing themselves headfirst into ponds, that sort of thing. I've always had to be fairly 'on it' with them, whereas her child usually tended to stay quite close by and be cautious in trying new things. So usually past playdates have involved a lot of me running around yelling, "no!", "wait!", "stop that!" while her child just focused on the activity. My DC has calmed down a lot with getting older and starting school though, and can play on their own now without me hovering, so obviously life is a lot easier now 😅!

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Gnomegnomegnome · 12/08/2023 15:16

I had a friend like this and had to put a stop to it for my own child’s sake. We didn’t see each other much after that as she couldn’t do anything without her child.
Just a warning- my friends child is still like it as a teen and friend still thinks that it’s other people’s fault!

Goldbar · 12/08/2023 15:19

HarrietJet · 12/08/2023 14:00

Your friend is an absolute muppet, op. I wouldn't meet her in her own, let alone with the kids.
I think she just takes her responsibility towards her child to parent sensitively and "responsively" very seriously
Even after the stuff in your original post, you still think this?!

I think from some of the things she said that there have been a few friendship/playground issues recently and she's trying to bolster her child's confidence, albeit I don't agree with her approach.

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HarrietJet · 12/08/2023 15:22

Goldbar · 12/08/2023 15:19

I think from some of the things she said that there have been a few friendship/playground issues recently and she's trying to bolster her child's confidence, albeit I don't agree with her approach.

As the expense of your child's, yet you seem oddly unfazed at this 🤷🏻‍♀️

frazzledasarock · 12/08/2023 15:24

Oh just tell her you’re busy next week. Then rethink this meeting up with kids thing. She sounds hard work. Your child is not there to exclusively amuse her child.

Schoolchoicesucks · 12/08/2023 15:24

If she hadn't made the comment about Quinn's behaviour, then I probably would have met up again assuming I like and enjoy spending time with her. The comment though, blaming Quinn for the playdate being unsatisfactory though would swing me against it. He sounded fine. Her dc sounded a bit spoilt and she pandered to it totally. As a one-off that wouldn't bother me much but she's implying your DC was in the wrong when they weren't and they would wind me up.

If you get on with her without DC then maybe suggest meeting up when you don't have the kids.

Octosaurus · 12/08/2023 15:28

Omg Blake's mum is a disaster! No more play dates. She is raising him to be very controlling. Why is she encouraging her child getting upset at not being able to control WHO Quinn plus with. He wanted Quinn all to himself against Quinn's wishes and the mother encouraged this ? And then had the cheek to suggest it is Quinn being bad? She can bore off imo

Goldbar · 12/08/2023 15:29

HarrietJet · 12/08/2023 15:22

As the expense of your child's, yet you seem oddly unfazed at this 🤷🏻‍♀️

My child was largely unfazed by it 😂. One of my DC's less attractive qualities is that they're not overly concerned by adult approval/disapproval so long as they get to do what they want. As far as they're concerned, they had a great playground trip topped off by a lovely ice-cream and any upset caused to Blake is very much by-the-by. From my perspective though, I'm not sure I can face another round of trying to get the kids to play together nicely!

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Questionsforyou · 12/08/2023 15:30

I think it's unfair she is so gentle to her own child and has nothing gentle about her towards your child

She sounds like a dick and I can't see why you would want to spend time with her.

Aprilx · 12/08/2023 15:30

No I wouldn’t repeat it because the boys don’t get along and you and her don’t like each others child and possibly not each other either.

HarrietJet · 12/08/2023 15:31

If you don't mind me saying so, op, you sound just as disparaging of your son as your friend is. Most peculiar.

Autumnsoon · 12/08/2023 15:31

Why did you let your friend disrespect your child .
your child did nothing wrong ,yet she was saying to her son ,it wasn’t nice what your son did
why did you sit there and take all that crap
her son is a brat

Nanasueathome · 12/08/2023 15:34

PacManMom · 12/08/2023 14:43

I'd reply "no thank you."

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