The ALL NEW 2 Under Two Thread..Follow me ladies!

[SuperGrrrl]

Here we go- new thread so we don't put off any newbies!

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Hello everyone, been absent for a few weeks, been away visiting rellies for a week (oh joy) and busy since we got back. Wow, so much to catch up on! Chaotica, Im glad your DD is better after her trip to hospital. Gemy, I am jealous of your tab-smoking, kebab-eating night out. FasterGrrl (took me a while to clock namechange) just realised my DS is same age as yours, 4.5mo. Sadly I am not lookign slim tho, and need to sort out my lardiness, the weight loss has stalled, I now need to stop eating for five.

Had a great day today compared to yesterday. Came home to no heating or hot water and DH managed to lose the car keys from the 5 seconds he left the car to getting in the house. Luckily today the gas engineer sorted us out cheaply and we found the car keys on the passenger seat, phew. I also did the most lovely bathtime on my own, both kids hardly cried at all. DD was very well behaved at playgroup considering I just sat and gossiped with friends and DS on knee the whole time.

I know what everyone means about playgroups. I go to a really bitchy one on mondays and tuesdays and only go if desperate, saw two mums have a screaming row before xmas tehre, and I got told off this week for walking out of the coffee room with a cup of tea Whereas todays is a lovely place with loads of people I know. Shame I;ll miss it when I go back to work.

DS is bleating, grrr, go back to sleep!

Welcome back Cazwa

My night out seems an eternity away now...though have another the first weekend in April (black tie event) but I really did miss the little ones. Especially little tiny Izzy - she's like a little kitten and - if I sniff my left shoulder - I can still smell a faint babysick smell of her.

Essex has lots of glorious countryside if not mountains - tell him a tale about all of you, the buggy, sunmesh in place, sleeping children and summer walks, followed by ice cold beer at a country village pub (for which Essex has good supply, or even pop accross to Herts!) and you'll be discussing which colour to have very soon - good luck

Have just been watching Sports Relief and have byyn crying....seeing all those tiny young indian children with no mummy or daddy....oops better stop or I'll be off again.

I have been putting off attending the local M+T group but know I should give it a chance.
Any first timers tips/dos/don'ts?

Wishing all your DCs happy long sleeps. and you too...
xxx

evening ladies

got my p&t! hooray! have to pay by chq so will take a few days but only cost me 225

so, don't have to work on dh after all he doesn't need any persuading when it comes to real ale (tho he is off the booze atm cos of recent liver tests, ahem)

gemy - tips, remember most of them are the same as you, just wanting to get out of the house for sanity and to wear out their LOs. and they have all gone through childbirth/pg recently so there's def common ground to start talking about.
think of a q that can't be answered with just a yes or no, something like 'so when did your LO start x?' or 'how have you found having 2/3' etc.

welcome back cazwa

right, aiming for early night, again...please let ds2 sleep for hours....

Congratulations on the p&t, Katyt1 (and thanks for the kind words the other day -- I know we all shout sometimes, but I still feel bad when I do (which is too often!))...

...Don't know what to do with DS can't tell if he needs food, teeth, more fun in his life, more visits to the osteopath, or just to grow up a bit but he's turned from a really chilled out little guy to a really shouty moaning baby. Wish I knew what might cheer him up. (Ideas about 6 month-olds, anyone?? A long shot I know.)

Welcome back, Cazwa.

And good to hear you had fun at the party, Gemy (although it must feel like months ago now).

hope your DS cheers up soon Chaotica.

ok here- DS1 is mostly well behaved. He's got a nasty cough coming on though, so we could be on for illness

DS2 is great. He's flipping huge, and very smiley.

been DIYing this weekend- taken up our revolting stairs/hallway carpet (which shows up every dog hair, spillage or drop of baby sick) And found lovely floor boards on stairs and landing! Going to repaint them and the bannisters next weekend...ooh a wipe clean stairs

Hello everyone

I should not be on here anymore

Dd1 had her second birthday on Saturday

We had a brilliant day, we bought her a little tikes slide on e-bay (Gawd bless e-bay!), which dh picked up the night before, and we put it up in the lounge (actually it's still there and I'm scared of what will happen when we move it!). We went to bristol zoo and had lunch in Ikea (a bit wierd I know, but it is so cheap, and really good for kids). I made a chocolate cake with a moon on it, which we all ate far too much of, and basically it was one of those magical days where everyone has a lovely time and is happy.

Supergrrl, glad you ds is doing better (if you'd like the bottle then cat me - but hopefully sounds like you won't need it)

Chaotica, I have a hundred moments a day when i feel like I'm the worst mother in the world (like when i'm on Mumsnet and dd1 is bopping dd2 with a balloon on the head - they're happy!), I'm sure the fact that we worry about it means we can't be that bad!
Oh and I reckon the 6 month thing is because as well as teething they are suddenly more aware, and nearly sitting up and just frustrated by everything, thats the impression i got with dd2, when she could sit she seemed a lot more chilled again, and now she's trying to crawl she gets really cross and wants to be picked up all the time.

Hello Cazwa, Gemy (still jealous of your partygoing despite your hangover!) Katy1 and kaybee.Hope your lo's are all well (are we nearly out of the snot season yet?)

I feel like i could write a book about toddler groups, we're going to so many at the moment, it might be called something like "Addicted to Custard Creams - My Toddler Group Hell". I don't think I've got any tips though, just lots of traumatic stories.

Well I hope you all don't mind if I sneak back on now and then (daily?!)maybe under a false name

i think you can stay

DH asked me what i was going to do when i didn't belong here anymore. I said i'd start another thread, for 2 Under 3!

Please stay, HJ. We'd miss you if you left... [pleading emoticon] Sounds like a great birthday for a two year old happy birthday HJ's DD1 (!). We're thinking of taking DD to the zoo soon (even though I'm not that keen on them): it's about time she saw an elephant and a giraffe etc for real. (And slides are great too DD can point them all out when we drive around town, she knows more than I do... )

I think you're right about the frustration with DS, Hazeyjane. He can't sit, crawl or walk but he knows he wants to (oddly, due to stiff neck and head control problems he's better at standing than sitting). I think he's sitting there getting really mad that he can't follow us around the house (oh boy, it will be such chaos when he can). (And he's teething, which can't be fun...)

I might show your stairs comment to DP, Faster... I'm actively running a campaign in our house to stop DP getting carpet on the stairs. (Let's face it: he will probably never clean it...) How much sick, juice and worse does he want on this carpet??

oh Chaotica, no stairs carpet! ours was horrible anyway, but it's cleaner and brighter without it.

DS1 has done a scribbled 'drawing' and announced it was me, DH and DS2! Aw! 1st time he's done that.

Awww. That's so sweet, FasterPG. DD has just started doing that as well mostly daddy and ds (not me ), or teddy and panda. We've just got the point of looking at the scribbles and trying to persuade her into two eyes, a nose and a mouth.... She doesn't quite get it though some of her 'faces' have up to 6 noses spread around the paper.

Hello again
I had a proper night out finally on saturday and even got a bit drunk. Which is terrible seeing as Im BFing still. I had 3 glasses of wine and fed him at 2am, then he was really sicky the next morning - BAD MOTHER. I had such a great night though that Ive gone out today and bought formula to start introducing a bottle this weekend. I know thats really selfish but I feel Ive given the kids so much of myself over the past few years that I need some of 'me' back. Im sure Im not alone on this board in this but I havent been drunk since November 2005 when I first got pregnant, Ive either been BFing or pregnant ever since! . Is anyone else in my shoes with giving up BFing or are you FF or carrying on with BF?

I had a great chat with my mate who has 13mo gap and her youngest is 10mo now. She said she feels shes finally reached the nirvana state of them entertaining each other. Her DH was telling me that he was sitting there reading the paper for an hour while they played with each other. Cant wait for that to happen - will make it all worthwhile!

This post has been interrupted 3 times with various things, Im just going to post this drivel, sorry Ive not commented on others posts. Other htan dont go away HazeyJane - tell us how great it is on the other side

cazwa - i'm still bfding - for now. hoping to make it to 6 months and beyond. but i feel very aware of the freedom that ff mums have when it comes to getting away and letting dh (or someone else) feed baby for a bit.
dream of a weekend away on my own with a few good books and a comfy bed
but def don't feel bad, got to do what's best for all.
as for last time drunk, um, can't remember it's so far back, haha. got pg with ds1 aug 05, and overlapped feeding and pg no 2, oops!

right, having dinner, back later...

Aw that is really sweet faster and cazwa (as so often) you made me chuckle. My DD also does not like to draw the conventional face and prefers eyes (sometimes just 1, sometimes 12 and after every one, she announces "eyes!")

She also likes drawing cars, though these cars seem to have wheels ("wee-alls") and an exhaust (which she always adds at the end, and it seems to be a matter of urgency like "exhaust!" "exhaust!".

Good for you too for having a good time and as I am fresh from my night out complete with getting drunk and dancing all night and know what a tonic it is. As for feeding, I gave up BFing AGES ago. And not only that, but I only use the ready made formula so it really is a case of snip, ding (microwave) and gulp (baby). But, I should know better than to endorse FF on mumsnet (looks around nervously) and I am not, just saying that when looking after 2 under 2, I feel like I need all the mod cons I can get.

Just watched that girls aloud passions thing and am thinking I need to take up some form on excerise. Since I do love dancing, that seems like a good choice, but can I be arsed? Now, that is the question....

Sweet dreams...

Cazwa- i've never let bfeeding stop me having a drink...they've always been fine. Although i may have halved their IQ, you never know!

i'm going to the Supermarket with both of them later. On my own. Maybe on the bus, if i can fit the double pushchair on it- i reckon it'll fit if i stand. i'm walking if not. (will do my arse good anyway!) I must be mad Not got much to get though, so fingers crossed!

I drink and bf too (although not a huge amount) (of drink, that is). More frightened of my extreme alcohol intolerance leading to me dropping the baby rather than what ends up in the milk.

And DD would be reading Shakespeare now if I hadn't

But all this reminds me that I have to persuade DS to start taking a bottle/cup/beerglass soon so he can be left with DP and start going to the cm one day a week when I start work (very part time) at the end of April. So far, he's really not impressed with expressed milk (doesn't seem to believe it's the same stuff as he usually gets).

Of into town and to the supermarket too, Faster. I really should walk too, but it looks too much like it might snow and I'm sooooo lazy.

OMG my neighbour has just been on the phone to say she is having twins! She has a DD who is 2 and this 2nd pregnancy was an accident. She is in total shock. Im sure I havent helped since DS was born by moaning every time I see her about how hard it is. Im now going to have ot bite my tongue and pretend its really easy, ha.

Phew, DS had a bottle tonight after the 3rd attempt today. WAs thinking he was going to be like his sister and take many many attempts to get on a bottle. Am going to give him his bedtime feed as a bottle from now on, then in a few weeks switch a mid-morning one over. I'll trundle along for another month or 2 before I stop altogther. Felt a bit sad, this is the end of an era when I finally stop as its no more babies for me. I have a love/hate relationship with BF, but really feel like Ive come to the point where Im totally sick of it.

When is summer going to start? It was hailing last night. I really want to get down the beach before my maternity leave is up!

i'm sick of these crappy nursing 'bras' which are not really more than a bit of knackered elastic IMO Cazwa. I'm going to stick it until he's about 7mths, then i think i'll stop.

I feel a bit sad though knowing i'll never breastfeed a little baby, and all the lovely feelings and closeness that comes with that.

But it will be nice to wear proper bras and not leak all the flipping time!

AAAaaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhh what a morning- I'm going to eat some cooking chocolate.

Thankyou all for letting me stay

Hi everyone, I am in the process of planning DD1s birthday party (next wed) and have so far arranged a cake to be made in the shape of Upsy Daisy and have made of list of things I need to get for her. But I am having trouble thinking of good presents. So far, we have lego and slippers. Any good ideas for toys that aren't just a passing fad? Maybe a slide? (what do you reckon Hazey?)

Husband is away on business and left late last night, back late tonight so I am doing dinner and putting both Izzy and Freya to bed. Not looking forward to that at all. Wish me luck and sanity. (looks around to check wine supply for afterwards)

I think all you BFers are doing very well. And although I really wanted to like BFing second time around (bought fancy nursing chair and everything) I still just couldn;t hack it. And I was constantly worrying that tiny Izzy was not getting enough milk....I do regret giving up so easily on one hand, but on the other, it worked better for me to FF. And I like having a hand free so I can entertain Freya/drink/eat/talk on phone.
Seeing my reasons for giving up in type make me think they are not good reasons. Oh well, such is life.....

good luck with bedtime Gemy- i don't think i could do both kids on my own!

DS1 has a stiffling cold, bless him, so keeping him home from childminders tomorrow so i can load him up on soup and paracetamol.

Found that our childminder can only do one day when i go back to work, so will have to find a nursery for them for the other day. Dreading that- DS1 will be fine i know, but DS2 is sooooo my PSB (Prescious second born )I'm dreading leaving him anywhere

Ack dont beat yourself up Gemy, you did what works for you and yours. Ive learnt never to judge others until youve walked in their shoes since having a 2nd.
I wrote down my reasons for stopping BFing and they were all selfish, i.e. wear nice bras, get drunk on holiday in June, leave him with others. I felt quite sad that none of them were about him, other than he will most likely put more weight on (hes very weeney). But Ive decided that something has to give, I have hit a wall with it and need a break.
Gemy, for a present idea what about a trike? Or a sandpit if you have the space? Im planning on those for DD when she turns 2 this summer.

Cant believe another person is graduating from this thread! Is there anyone left with 2 under 2? (BTW please dont go!)

Hazeyjane what happened?

grr, lost post, hi all, ok here, tired.

no beating up re bfding or not allowed. what works, works.

i still have 2 under 2! (for 4 more months)Planning an Iggle Piggle cake, a weekend near my parents and a visit to a kids zoo / farm for his birthday.

decided i will take DS1 to childminder's today (he much better) but will get him couple of hours early so i don't miss him.

Does everyone have nice Easter plans? I'm going to be decorating and shifting a massive wardrobe Will be lush when it's done though, so worth it.

Have demanded an 'evening of romance' from DH tomorrow He's making me a curry, he's banned from the net, and we're watching a film i want to see on DVD. He's not very good at 'romance', so we'll see what happens!

Hi all,
Am so glad to have found this thread! Have already read all the info on bathing. I have an 18 month old DS and a four week old DS. Things seem to be settling down now. Having said that, I haven't been out on my own with them except for walks in the local area. The thought of getting them in and out of the car, into the pram etc all alone fills me with dread! One day...
Am enjoying the morning because the eldest is at nursery so it's just me and the baby. I certainly wouldn't be able to go online if DS1 was here. I really ought to go and get myself showered and dressed soon!
Hope you all have a lovely easter. We're having a quiet weekend at home.
I look forward to lots more help and advice over the coming months!