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Niece misbehaves and sister excuses her behaviour

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Busybee140 · 21/11/2022 13:13

I have a 2 year old. My sisters dd is nearly 3. My sister’s dd has bitten, hit, head butted, thrown toys at my lo. She’s not very good at sharing either. My sister attempts to discipline her, but it’s very inconsistent and often appears to be received from my niece as attention (possibly positive reinforcement). Her husband is less than useless. I’ve tried to offer suggestions on a consistent, more effective way of discipline without wanting to sound like a know it all, I know I don’t. I know my mum thinks discipline methods are not ideal, but we are an anti-conflict family, so it results in my mum being subtle and ignored and me biting off my tongue. Rather interestingly she often preaching her parenting methods to me.
I know my sister loves my lo and feels bad, but I find it infuriating when over the years my sister has made excuses for her daughter’s bad behaviour. (E.g. tired, teething, over excited, an accident the list goes on). It’s my baby who is hurt and her making excuses makes it feel like she is not taking it as seriously as she should and it makes me feel worse.
They will be spending less time together because my niece will be starting nursery in January. I wished I said something sooner like last year, although would this have changed anything? Now I don’t know whether to see what things are like once she starts nursery or whether to say something the next time it happens. My sister is really difficult to communicate with so I know saying something will end in a massive row, but I don’t want my lo to keep on getting hurt and I don’t want my lo to pick up my niece’s bad behaviour (we have been lucky she hasn’t so far). What should I do? Does anyone have any similar experience they can share?

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Busybee140 · 23/11/2022 05:31

@Allsnotwell we didn’t ‘stay’ for ice cream. The ice cream was got immediately after. It happened in my house, so there was no where for us to leave to.
I did take my daughter into another room.
I did challenge my DS on saying no to my niece, but that was met with explanations of what must have triggered my niece. (I think my DS genuinely believes she is dealing with the behaviour in her view). She’s hungry and didn’t get a good night sleep last night etc. I felt it pointless trying to explain where I was coming from further so I focused on comforting my LG.
I think in one of my replies to someone else I did say I wished I had said something about this earlier, but when these things just start to happen I felt I needed to give my sister time to deal with it and then when you do say something and you get a lot of explanation about why it’s happened it really doesn’t get anywhere.
It was in my house and I removed her from the situation and after my niece had her ice cream they did leave, but you’re right I wished I had said more earlier (even though I suspect it will not be well received), my niece starts nursery in January and they will see each other a lot less, as well as the nursery environment might influence DN’s behaviour, so I think my aim in putting this post on was to see if others in this situation have dealt with it and how successful they were. An awful atmosphere when we come together isn’t good for the girls or my DS either, so it’s trying to weigh up if I should say something before my niece starts nursery (or just if/when something happens) or if we try to see what changes occur in the New Year.

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Busybee140 · 23/11/2022 05:33

@MyTabbyCats thank you. I’m thinking based on the replies and my initial thinking, we will probably have to as you say continue to be extra vigilant when they are together and hope things improve in the New Year when DN starts nursery

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Busybee140 · 23/11/2022 05:35

@Wheredoallthepensgo my DN is 3. I explained in the posts after that I had this drafted but was in two minds whether to post or not. When I edited it to post I missed that I had put nearly 3 and didn’t correct it before posting.

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Snnowflake · 23/11/2022 06:09

She won't be allowed to bite other children at nursery or school. Just keep you DD away meanwhile.

avocadoandchill · 23/11/2022 06:13

I’ve tried to offer suggestions on a consistent, more effective way of discipline without wanting to sound like a know it all,

Stop doing that unless she asks for it. Just because your 2 year old responds to your methods doesn't mean hers will

nophonesonbed · 23/11/2022 07:31

Whilst I agree that 2/3 year olds should be disciplined I feel sometimes people have an unrealistic expectations from that. It's not an instant magic wand, it takes time and patience and not all kids are as responsive. However you feel your sisters approach is inconsistent and that may be contributing to the child's behaviours. You could tell your sister, she may feel uncomfortable disciplining in front of others? If not I think you will have to be on it, look for signs and preempt it by moving your child away. Spending less time together will be less stressful for you and your daughter.

Allsnotwell · 23/11/2022 07:35

Then go and bite your sister and tell her you were tired - then offer her an ice cream!

If she complains throw a toy at her head.

From your posts - which are repetitive and long - I’d say you are spending more time agonizing over speaking to your sister rather than tackling it head on.

Tell her that your DD is upset with DN and doesn’t want her to come and play because she gets hurt -

Meet only on neutral ground where you can leave.

Where did DS get the ice cream? If it’s in your house why is she helping herself?

She appears to be far more dominate than you are.

FWIW my DD used to bite - she was told NO! Firmly and was removed from the situation.

She quickly grew out of it.

Minimalme · 23/11/2022 07:45

I suspect you and your sister are spending time together with your toddlers at your Mum's house?

Toddlers 'free range' wind each other up. Why not meet at soft play, or a playgroup?

They are both two and some two year old's are harder work than others. I used time out with my eldest when he was two and I wish I hadn't.

You sound like you are worrying your niece won't be able to fit in society and will end up a young offender by 5! Your dd will be fine, just control the environment they are in better.

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