Police called after daughters meltdown

[Worriedmumnov]

I'm absolutely mortified and so worried. My 12 year old daughter suffers with anxiety which result in big meltdowns. Its almost like she needs to meltdown in order to self regulate. Last night after I had been talking to her for almost 2 hours about her worries she wanted me to continue but we were going over and over the same worry and I told her it was time for bed. She began to spiral into a meltdown and was shouting and getting upset. It was really late by this point around 10.30/11.00. We were trying to get her to calm down and to stop. Neither my husband or I was shouting at her. However we have holiday makers in the next door house (it's a terrace and the walls are thin). They were obviously concerned and called the police. She was mortified as was i. The police officers were lovely and kind. My daughter explained as did I. They said they took their hats off to me for the situation. However I think they automatically have to file this and I am so worried that they will have to contact the school. Is this the case does anyone know?
I don't know why I am worried as I know there was no safety concern for her. And we did nothing wrong but I just have a knot in my stomach about it. In many ways it was the kick up the bum for us to get her a counsellor - something I had been looking into. I have now found one and booked her an appointment.
I do understand why the neighbour did it. We went round and spoke to them and explained the situation but I feel so wretched about it.

Go on then tell me how you are finding out and sharing this information because it doesn’t fall into the Encompass category.

Any police involvement means all schools for all siblings will be notified. You don’t need to tell the police which school they attend, we have all the details.

but please don’t worry, the processes are in place so if she has a “tough day” the teachers will know that she needs extra support/kindness.

This is total crap!

Literallymyname you are talking nonsense!

its not rocket science hon, the police tell my department and I tell the schools. 🙄

Don’t hun me, the police are only telling you what they want you to share, there will be hundreds of incidents (like this) where you won’t be told.

😂 whatever. I get paid to do this. You can believe whatever you like. This is Scotland so your mileage/accuracy may differ if you’re in another country.

Of course it may fall under operation encompass, it would if classed as APVA!
But we have no idea how the incident has been recorded so we have no idea if the school will be informed.

Nope. We’re told everything. From mum having too many drinks and shouting at neighbours, parent dying, domestic abuse, victims of school bullies. The list is endless as to why a child might need extra support and for adults to be aware.

I’m out.

Sounds tough. Are you sure it's just anxiety? She sounds like my son who has ADHD/ASD and Sensory processing.

Doesn't sound just like anxiety

How long how this been going on for?

Yes it is true……they get a copy of the VPRF completed by the officer who attends the incident….and so does the school nurse….

Thank you for your message. I dont think it is Adhd/asd as my husband works in that field. We have talked about that as a possibility but in every other area she actually doesn't fall under that bracket. Am aware she could be just very good at coping/functioning with it. Sorry I am not wording this well. Very tired! Emotional day

Not in my area, they absolutely wouldn’t.

Wrong….wrong….and wrong🙄
school will be told…end of

Operstion Encompass works in all 43 forces in England and Wales - so maybe not in Scotland? Think it's in NI too.

I’m sure they would…it’s information sharing as part of the working together statutory guidance

We are told that there is a child in a household where an incident took place, we are told whether the child was present or not, when the incident occurred and the name of the child. We receive a notification for every child in the household who attends our school, Social services are also informed by the same process.

This isnt true about schools nor HV services

Social Services get automatic reports from incidents like this, they will probably file this one as NFA

Incidents have to be domestic violence or abuse, crime or non-crime:

In my force, the incident as described by the OP would not be given a DA marker, so wouldn’t trigger Encompass.

So we need to accept that we can't definitely know how this incident will have been categorised, but just offer support to the OP.

This is absolute bullshit!!!

That I agree with!

Our notifications come through via email, the idea being we have the information before the child returns to school.

My neighbour has called the police when my dd15 has been unregulated and kicking off that she is going to kill us. If the school were contacted by the police they never told me. However I did contact the guidance person for her year group about it.

There was no follow up from their visit.

You have found someone for your DD to talk to. You are doing a good job.

Some people dont understand the situation or feel they want to support you or your dd and that might mean they call 999.