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Can’t cope with this school mum anymore…

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PaddlingLikeADuck · 23/05/2022 07:33

There are 4 of us who see each other on the school run each morning, our children are all in the same class and we tend to have general chit chat at drop-off and pick-up times.

Our children are 8 so we’ve known each other for about 4 years and over those
years we’ve done many days out together with the children, but also many nights out with just us as adults.

The hard thing is that one of the mums is near unbearable. She is so boastful, always bragging about what she has, the holidays she takes, the home refurbishments she’s doing, her car, her clothes, her jewellery etc. And no matter what conversation is being had she always manages to bring it back to herself and she has to out-do everyone. It’s so draining.

What she boasts most about though is her daughter who can do absolutely nothing wrong in her mum’s eyes. The mum is always bragging about her daughter’s school achievements, her daughter’s after-school activities, the medals and certificates she won, her daughter’s appearance, what she buys for her daughter etc and she will constantly put other children down (in a variety of subtle ways) to make her daughter seem better than everyone else. It’s really, really unpleasant.

She also loves to pass negative comments about the homes of other parents (if her child has been there) and she’s just so judgemental of how other people live if they don’t have the same £20k conservatory that she has. She has even stopped her daughter going to houses if she doesn’t approve of something, even if it’s as petty as some of the wallpaper coming away from the wall. She purposefully asks the parents of these children if she can use their bathroom so she can go and look upstairs.

Her daughter is incredibly spoilt and I know she’s only 8 but she’s quite unpleasant to be around. She constantly interrupts, pushes other children around, takes things from other children, is always showing off about herself etc and always has to be the best at everything.

The whole thing is so draining and it has gotten so, so much worse over the last year to the point that the other three of us are just done with it. We can’t cope with it anymore. We’ve been tolerating it for sake of the children’s friendships but I’m not sure that’s enough of a motivation anymore.

It is my birthday next week and I want us three (me and the two nice mums) to go out for a meal but I don’t know how to go about it without offending the other mum.

I just really, really don’t want her there because she will ruin the entire evening.

The mum has already been making comments about my birthday and asking how are we all going to celebrate it together and coming up with ideas etc and I feel like dying inside.

I just don’t want her to be part of it.

How do I manage this situation?

My husband thinks I should just be honest with her and tell her that I simply don’t enjoy her company and explain why.

I can’t do that though can I?

Has anyone else been in a similar situation and dealt with it in a manner that nobody gets hurt?

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SeasonFinale · 23/05/2022 07:36

Make arrangements with the other 2 and don't invite her.

Miriam101 · 23/05/2022 07:38

Tough one. I don't see how you can follow your DH's advice without causing an absolute shitstorm, which I imagine isn't what you want. Do you have some other friends- away from school, kids etc- that you could celebrate with this year- if you do something without any of them she's maybe not as likely to get upset?- and then just try to gradually phase her out over the next few months?

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 23/05/2022 07:41

She doesn't care about offending people, does she? Just don't invite her. If she asks about your birthday, say you are keeping it small with a couple of close friends, so you'll see her next week at X child event.

She's not a nice person, so fuck her.

I feel sorry for her daughter, she is being taught to be unlikeable too.

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carefullycourageous · 23/05/2022 07:43

You can't exclude without causing upset, so I agree with your DH that at least by telling her you are being the decent person.

You could try to discuss with her to see if she'll rein it in. Have you ever said 'God <name>, you haven't stopped for breath since we got here, let someone else speak'. I'd try that first.

I dunno, is she the kind of person to help you in a crisis etc? I know someone a bit like this but she's a good egg at heart so I just let her blather on. I like it really because I'm quiet and she does the talking!

Starlightstarbright1 · 23/05/2022 07:44

Just say your having a quiet one. Have a night out agree to keep it off SM...

Moving forward as a group you need to start shutting her down.

I don't let verruca Salt go to A's house because how its decorated. Oh A's mum is lovely, we all have different tastes or oh my Dd makes friends based on if they are kind/funny not on mums decor.

PaulaTrilloe · 23/05/2022 07:49

If she goes to check out people's upstairs under pretence of using the loo maybe mention to her she's been spotted on the in-house CCTV and laugh. If you know this and someone told you, then people disapprove of her. Let her feel embarrassed.

Invite your nice friends don't plaster on social media though

serenghetti2011 · 23/05/2022 07:51

This other mum seems not to be bothered about offending anyone else so just go and I’d tell her to wind it in I don’t know how you put up with it this long without saying anything

Finalcountdowntoourtripaway · 23/05/2022 07:52

Don't invite her. If she mentions it just say you assumed it wasn't up it her level of A Great Night Out so you didn't invite her.

Libertybear80 · 23/05/2022 07:54

This is why I stayed away from most school mums. The only thing you have in common is your children attend school in the same building. Just avoid her and don't mention the birthday. Change the subject.

Harrysutton · 23/05/2022 07:55

She sounds awful. Can you plan something when you know she’s busy?

Sweepingeyelashes · 23/05/2022 08:01

Why worry about whether she is busy? Just don't invite her. If she ever raises it, say that you were worried that your wallpaper was not up to her standards. To be fair, people like her are generally trying to make up for some feeling of inferiority.

Indoctro · 23/05/2022 08:03

Personally I would just tell her that if she doesn't stop the boasting you won't be her friend

Maybe she is inward about how bad she is, I would say it most likely comes from a very unhappy life behind the scenes , stuff like this often us

She is prob miserable in her marriage or something like that.

Be honest with her , and you might find out the real reason she behaves this way and once it's sorted she might be bearable.

oakleaffy · 23/05/2022 08:04

I’d guess this braggy mother has once known real poverty, and feels insecure.
People who are secure in themselves wouldn’t dream of criticising a friend’s house or bragging .
about what they have.
I did know someone like this, and it really is very tiring.
Constant one upmanship.
You’ll just have to all tell her that the endless boasting is tedious.

THisbackwithavengeance · 23/05/2022 08:06

Is this for real?

So if this woman someone blatantly states that they are not going to let their child go to another child's house because the wallpaper is coming off the walls, what is your reaction? Surely you would put her straight at the time?

Pegasushaswings · 23/05/2022 08:06

Just go out with the other mums and maybe all 4 of you go for coffee on your birthday so it’s a limited 1 hour thing?

Beautiful3 · 23/05/2022 08:13

Honestly, so what you want. No one is worried about upsetting you are they?! Invite your food friends out. Tell the lady that you have plans with very close friends. Tell your friends not to post anything on social media. If she finds out and confronts you, just tell the truth, that you only wanted to go out with your closest friends.

Beautiful3 · 23/05/2022 08:14

*do
*good

Bobbins36 · 23/05/2022 08:34

Do none of you pull her up on it and tell her how irritating/insensitive she’s being?

dworky · 23/05/2022 08:44

Every time she boasts remember that she's doing so out of insecurity, feeling that she has to prove something to others in order to be accepted.
It's actually very sad.

Pamlar · 23/05/2022 09:07

I would suggest a coffee/quick get together for your birthday and use it as an opportunity to say that you don't like the put downs and judgemental comments. Couch it with: I'm sure you don't mean to be hurtful but it is very hurtful when you ...xyz.
Take it from there, if it goes well, then include her in your night out. If not, then don't.
Just excluding her feels nasty and will def have unpleasant consequences. There are so many threads about nasty school mums making lives a misery.

Folklore9074 · 23/05/2022 09:09

She sounds like a chore.

Don’t invite her and distance yourself, cool off, speak less and when you do keep it short. Just let the friendship fade.

If she asks outright why she wasn’t invited either tell her, if you are up for being direct (honestly you’d be doing her a huge favour), or be evasive.

Either way she should get the message you don’t want to be pals.

anotherNCsorryfolks · 23/05/2022 09:12

Why have none of you pulled her up about her behaviour? Confused

Poppetlove · 23/05/2022 09:15

I’d be wandering why someone was upstairs in my house when they said they were going to the loo, I’d be calling her out on that.

decayingmatter · 23/05/2022 09:16

I made a resolution this year to always pull people like this up, in the moment. It's been very liberating. I know a school mum just like her with a daughter who sounds like hers. The last time she was spewing out her latest little monologue I said 'oh just be quiet now Janet, you're so insecure' and she's never spoken to me since, which is a great bonus!

Franca123 · 23/05/2022 09:19

Why on earth are you worried about her feelings? If what you say is true just drop her. I wouldn't give her the time of day.

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